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uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
April 26 2003 15:49 GMT
#61
isnt dudey some rich papa boy, with a shitload of money? if he wins (or who ever is playing for him, Hack or progamer) he wont need to get paid from AMD or elky or smuft, hes fucking loaded papa's boy.. makes sense to me why they want dudey to win : O~
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
SoA.Testie
Profile Joined April 2003
74 Posts
April 26 2003 15:50 GMT
#62
Whoever was also playing for dudey earlier was hacking too.
Man if I can beat all these extremely great zergs flawlessly on nostalgia then lose to a 20 ling rush like that. The build he did is good against ONLY what I did if he gets to climb my ramp, and he did. Lucky him!

If you do that in a real game, and you don't attack at just the right time you will be fucked econimically and cannot recover. And seeing as how he didn't properly continously scout me, and keep the drone alive in my base to really see what i was doing.. he couldn't have guessed that it was just time to attack. All terrans expand at different times as they see fit.


Hades
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada927 Posts
April 26 2003 15:50 GMT
#63
You could have waited... Giving someones word that you wont tell may not mean a lot to you, but I like to stick by my promises unless it is absolutely necessary not to.

You telling was perhaps the right thing to do. The point is it wasnt your right to tell because you were told in confidence from one of your good friends and you promised him not to tell. You didnt even talk to him before telling people. Why couldnt you wait a day or two and talk to Naz before telling? I think that he probably would have told himself after seeing all of this. You didnt give him that opportunity, and now you look like a savior and Naz looks like a jerk.
I just finished eating my vegetables, now where do I throw the wheelchairs?
iGgs
Profile Joined April 2003
Russian Federation772 Posts
April 26 2003 15:51 GMT
#64
you people are clueless idiots, just because venice said something to alleviate your jewish curiosity doesnt make him a better person in the least bit, this is his business and since he decided to go public with this scandal please spare him the bullshit.
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
April 26 2003 15:52 GMT
#65
There will be no lawsuit. More than half of the people concerned aren't even in college and who the hell is going to pay for a lawyer to travel to Korea? That in itself would cost more than the ~$4000 made anyways. Unless some real dumbass is willing to front the money, nothing will happen. It's a game, and the ladder cost $20. Not exactly Supreme Court material here. That doesn't make any of this right of course, but let's not be delusional about ways to solve the problem.
impatience is a virtue
Mkoms
Profile Joined December 2002
United States128 Posts
April 26 2003 15:53 GMT
#66
You can't sue for $20 (I don't think) even in the United States, not to mention that this is an international scandal. No way. But a lot more was lost than the $20/person such as time and effort. I'm not sure if anything can really be done outside of some sort of boycott...

No one should blame Nazgul for any of this, he was in no position to say anything. Kiddie made a good decision to tell everyone, and a hard one. Thank him.

This could really hurt the SCBW international community... I hope it doesn't, but if it does we have Smuft and Elky to thank.
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
April 26 2003 15:53 GMT
#67
smuft was being pressured by everyone and he said he made a quick decision about ret vs dudey and he felt it was justified by "dudey" winning 3 straight. this is such bull shit. im mad and i didnt even play -.-v (well i did on my friends accout because he payed and never used it)
threshy
Profile Joined March 2003
Qatar550 Posts
April 26 2003 15:56 GMT
#68
It may be redundant, given what has already been revealed, but ..

I just watched the Veg vs. banana.milk reps and the hacking was obvious; it was clear that there was hack, and it was clear that he wasn't even trying to hide it.

:/
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
April 26 2003 15:58 GMT
#69
ilnp . January 23 2003 20:28. Posts 366 Quote
9 Hatch/9 Pool. That's before overlord.

You can also experiment with 9 pool to 3 hatch (see yellow replays from 12) or 12 pool to 3 hatch (fairly popular from 12... sonic black does it from 6 vs *someone* in the korea wcg quals... i want to say oops lee). Those will die to a good BBS'er, though. (9 pool->3 hatch can beat the BBS down if you use a LOT of drones with your lings and your micro kicks ass)

Yellow likes to go hatch at ramp/pool, then gas a few drones later and third hatch at his expansion if things look all clear. i don't recommend this.

there's always just learning to 1 base
=]



ilnp . January 24 2003 02:01. Posts 366 Quote
Beast maybe it works in Bulgaria but it's unheard of to 12/12 on temple these days :-(

on Lotem 10 hatch at exp, then 9 pool will still die to a good BBS from 12 or 3



i find these relevant, considering that 3 out of the 4 reps i just watched, he went fast expo. not to mention the one game that i think was dudey, where he "disc", he played abuot 5x slower than the games where he fast expo.
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
April 26 2003 15:59 GMT
#70
IGgs u are a very ugly person =(
Hades now i see ur point, yes it would've been better if Venice could've convinced Nazgul about telling people, but maybe Venice tried with no results. Anyway Venice prolly didn't even think of that and that doens't make him a "bad" friend(Nazgul was just his online friend anyway...).
uiCk
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Canada1925 Posts
April 26 2003 16:05 GMT
#71
i hope daaman rapes whoever is playing ilnp, and Elky and smuft get a in-your-face ; /
I can no longer sit back and allow Communist infiltration, Communist indoctrination, Communist subversion and the international Communist conspiracy to sap and impurify all of our precious bodily fluids
Funktion
Profile Joined January 2003
Australia156 Posts
April 26 2003 16:05 GMT
#72
Well the hotkeys in the ilnp vs ret discing game that ilnp used are the same as in the ilnp vs veg games.

On a side note I thought Veg played like shit in the 2nd game vs ilnp.
Wuzzle Woozle?
RaGe_banned
Profile Joined March 2003
United States538 Posts
April 26 2003 16:06 GMT
#73
On April 27 2003 00:18 Manifesto7 wrote:
"He does T_T!" (my words that I am judging off of a couple suspicious replays he had vs assem in tvt, which could very well be me totally wrong seeing as suspicious things are sometimes bound to happen in tvt and considering when i played him and 4-1'd him or so.. i was not too suspicious he hacked) SO YES IT WAS WRONG OF ME TO SAY HE DOES"


Nice to see someone in the BW community step up and take responsibility for their actions for once. My question is, why, if all this is true, does Elky and/or Smuft want ilnp on the team so bad?
Mani~


They don't Want ilnp on the team, they just want to keep the money to themselves.
Beyonder = The One Thousand Three Hundred and Thirty Seven King
Veg
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada2945 Posts
April 26 2003 16:09 GMT
#74
--- Nuked ---
asdasdas
TeCh)PsylO
Profile Joined October 2002
United States3552 Posts
April 26 2003 16:10 GMT
#75
lol i was just thinking of doing that
People change, then forget to tell each other - Susan Scott
RaGe_banned
Profile Joined March 2003
United States538 Posts
April 26 2003 16:10 GMT
#76
Venice in this day and age money makes the world go 'round, not friends, so if there is something you know, it's not fair to the 200+ people who payed $20 to play in this WDT. And from some of the countries some of these people who played WDT are from, $20 is a shit load of money to them and to fuck them out of it just isn't fair at all. Making 200++ people happy is alot better than keeping 2 world known BW players as ur friends, because they won't always be ur friends.
Beyonder = The One Thousand Three Hundred and Thirty Seven King
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
April 26 2003 16:10 GMT
#77
please dont be mean just because is Testie.
So who can it be if it isnt dudey?
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
April 26 2003 16:15 GMT
#78
On April 27 2003 01:06 RaGe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2003 00:18 Manifesto7 wrote:
"He does T_T!" (my words that I am judging off of a couple suspicious replays he had vs assem in tvt, which could very well be me totally wrong seeing as suspicious things are sometimes bound to happen in tvt and considering when i played him and 4-1'd him or so.. i was not too suspicious he hacked) SO YES IT WAS WRONG OF ME TO SAY HE DOES"


Nice to see someone in the BW community step up and take responsibility for their actions for once. My question is, why, if all this is true, does Elky and/or Smuft want ilnp on the team so bad?
Mani~


They don't Want ilnp on the team, they just want to keep the money to themselves.


Rage-
When I later learned that supposedly there was no one going to Korea, my next post was " What does dudley gain from all this.. a cut of the money"
Mani~
ModeratorGodfather
esk0
Profile Joined December 2002
Sweden1393 Posts
April 26 2003 16:16 GMT
#79
omg when i look at those results... it cant be banana.milk playing. just look at his ladderstats. i dont think there can be another european playing for him though. i haven't heard of any _GOOD_ european zergs except the ones who are already out.
time will show i guess...
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
April 26 2003 16:17 GMT
#80
most likely either jinnam or jinsu. if naz knew, the whole dream team had to have benefitted from the money.
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