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Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
April 26 2003 15:21 GMT
#21
dudey in the finals? biggest controversy in the history of SC. i hope he doesnt win. isnt it a little strange they would put the korean time when they announced the times, but no koreans are supposed to be participating?
OrangeTerran
Profile Joined October 2002
United States963 Posts
April 26 2003 15:21 GMT
#22
ban dudey.

ret vs born2march
winner vs testie
winner vs veg

=[
Anaheim, California
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
April 26 2003 15:21 GMT
#23
Well ret, I just want to say that that was a nice comeback in the disc game after dudley had most of the map. GJ.
Mani~
ModeratorGodfather
SoA.Testie
Profile Joined April 2003
74 Posts
April 26 2003 15:22 GMT
#24
Probably a zerg pro gamer to ensure 100% With a hack or something.
Certain someone> Don't fuck this up, use this. We need 100% win.
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
April 26 2003 15:22 GMT
#25
venice is right.
Hades
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada927 Posts
April 26 2003 15:23 GMT
#26
I didnt say you hack... I just said there were some suspicious things in the game. Suspicious stuff does happen tho, and im sure if you look hard enough at Dudeys reps in this tourney you will find 1000x more.

Also, slightly suspicious behavior should never be enough to make such a large decision. Otherwise Im sure 90% of the series in this tournament would need to be replayed. I think some of the stuff that happened in that game would perhaps be enough for someone to say "FUCKIN HACKER STFU" if they are as lame as Dudey, but it should never be enough for them to make any sort of decision to either kick you out or replay the games.
I just finished eating my vegetables, now where do I throw the wheelchairs?
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7300 Posts
April 26 2003 15:23 GMT
#27
Now it makes sense why nazgul was like "Im not a part of this dont talk to me about it, etc" right when the season started, he probably knew about it the entire time
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
OrangeTerran
Profile Joined October 2002
United States963 Posts
April 26 2003 15:25 GMT
#28
On April 27 2003 00:18 Liquid.Venice wrote:
fuck it
this thing is bullshit

im really sorry nazgul


but this is too much people paid money for this.

The whole thing is bullshit, elky and smuft never got full permission from their manager. The winner isnt joining the dream team.

As sad as it is elky and smuft are probably having jinnam(who is on the dream team) play for ilnp so there is no winner and they dont have the problem of telling the winner they arent going to korea.


this could very well be the reason.
it all makes sense after hearing this
Anaheim, California
Liquid.Venice
Profile Joined November 2002
United States916 Posts
April 26 2003 15:26 GMT
#29
DO NOT put ANY blame on nazgul.

he never wanted ANYTHING to do with this and was in a horrible position, and it was really hard for me to decide whether or not to say this because it puts him in a very bad position, and i am very sorry.

he shouldnt have told me.

cava
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
United States1035 Posts
April 26 2003 15:26 GMT
#30
ret was essentially fucked over. The dudey issue is still a mystery, this tournament is BS.
cava!
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
April 26 2003 15:26 GMT
#31
yes OT said it right this time =)
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7300 Posts
April 26 2003 15:27 GMT
#32
im not saying its nazguls fault im just saying he knew about it =[ he couldnt say anything obviously being new in korea and theyd kick him off if he said something =\
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Rekrul
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Korea (South)17174 Posts
April 26 2003 15:27 GMT
#33
I agree / second A LOT of what Testie posted.

But also I did confirm 100% that it was Dudey before he played vs Veg. (and he never logged off after that confirmation) And Dudey did play EXTREMELY WELL game 1 (with a couple "hackerish" moves that also could be called very smart/skilled moves).
why so 진지해?
Hades
Profile Joined January 2003
Canada927 Posts
April 26 2003 15:28 GMT
#34
Wow, this is definitely going to cause problems for Smuft/Elky
I just finished eating my vegetables, now where do I throw the wheelchairs?
radar14
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States1437 Posts
April 26 2003 15:29 GMT
#35
So the moral of the story is, if you go to Korea as a foreign pro-gamer, you will likely be so damn poor that you will have to resort to running farce tournament to make money. Unless you win. Which Smuft doesn't.
impatience is a virtue
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27156 Posts
April 26 2003 15:30 GMT
#36
My question is this: if there is no one joining the team in Korea, what does dudley get from all of this? A cut of the money?
ModeratorGodfather
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
April 26 2003 15:31 GMT
#37
On April 27 2003 00:26 Liquid.Venice wrote:
DO NOT put ANY blame on nazgul.

he never wanted ANYTHING to do with this and was in a horrible position, and it was really hard for me to decide whether or not to say this because it puts him in a very bad position, and i am very sorry.

he shouldnt have told me.



No Venice. What YOU did was the right thing, it is to tell everyone about it, what Nazgul did was just cowardly just like Pilato did to Jesus, wash his hands ( OKOK this is A LOT EXAGERRATIN, but u get the point) Nazgul really didn't care about others and was just saving himself. Oh Venice u 100% sure about this, this is fraud 100%
(Very proud of Venice =... ( )
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
April 26 2003 15:32 GMT
#38
why post what time the tourney would be in korean time if there are no koreans in it? why make all the maps ones that favor zerg? it had to have been rigged.
Veg
Profile Joined October 2002
Canada2945 Posts
April 26 2003 15:32 GMT
#39
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OrangeTerran
Profile Joined October 2002
United States963 Posts
April 26 2003 15:33 GMT
#40
it makes so much sense omg...
this is the reason why venice didn't have a fit when he didn't get top 32
he knew there was gonna be no one going to korea
Anaheim, California
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