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Liquid.Venice
Profile Joined November 2002
United States916 Posts
April 26 2003 17:36 GMT
#101
maynard do you have msn?
nArAnjO
Profile Joined October 2002
Peru2571 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-26 17:52:50
April 26 2003 17:39 GMT
#102
[edit, no spanish]
Maynard
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States889 Posts
April 26 2003 17:40 GMT
#103
Yea, I mainly use ICQ but occasionally come on msn Mbombach@hotmail.com
rK
Profile Joined September 2002
United States371 Posts
April 26 2003 17:40 GMT
#104
On April 27 2003 02:25 AgonyRush wrote:
and if dudey refuse to go to korea? thats what they want. so u cant sue them.


Yeah

Too bad Tomson isn't Boxer's brother or something ^^
B.GoD_AnGRY
Profile Joined January 2003
Chile334 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-26 18:00:48
April 26 2003 17:43 GMT
#105
[no spanish]
DReaMe
Profile Joined October 2002
United States337 Posts
April 26 2003 17:46 GMT
#106
Its always awesome when we get some nice solid advice from Maynard O_O


-listening to tool as we speak
wo chej ma go ren
bigMommA
Profile Joined March 2003
1985 Posts
April 26 2003 17:50 GMT
#107
On April 27 2003 02:32 Maynard wrote:
Several of you want to go to Korea and win lots of money but in reality you cannot. Face the truth. You have been playing for 4 years straight and you are still not a top player. Going to korea will not change anything. You will not storm onto the scene and win tournament after tournament. You will not win any tournaments nor will you place high in any ladder.


That was very uplifting =[
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27148 Posts
April 26 2003 17:54 GMT
#108
Its realistic. The time for storming the pro SC scene in Korea is over. However, I did enjoy my time in Korea (although I didnt live there so maybe that was the difference). I found the Korean "sluts" very entertaining, and that in the major cities, there were quite a few people who spoke at least a little english. I have a friend teaching english there right now, and he is also enjoying it. As for being third world, the air sucks, the food is great, and if you can live without your swiffer wetjet, you will probably be fine.
ModeratorGodfather
Roman
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2595 Posts
April 26 2003 17:56 GMT
#109
tool is the greatest band ^^
Shockey
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2615 Posts
April 26 2003 17:59 GMT
#110
On April 27 2003 02:18 Hades wrote:
Just email AMD, they rely on their sponsorship and this clearly reflects VERY poorly on AMD that they would sponsor people who act like this...

kiddie said that their manager didnt approve it so it technically isnt amd's fault.
UnderGroUndZerG
Profile Joined April 2003
Sweden22 Posts
April 26 2003 18:05 GMT
#111
Have both Testi and Dudey play re-game and have a webb camera beside them while theya re playing. You cannot denie your own eyes.

Meanwhile they are gaming with webb cameras beside them, 2 admins of WDT will observ them throw msn (or something). Since the webb camera is moveble testi and dudey can easily show them type in their password or film the names in the games, write "hi" on commands.

Cuse the "korean" cant be sitting at home where dudey lives?
.
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But though we strike at you from the shadows, do not think that we lack the courage to stand in the light. - Zeratul
dekaN
Profile Joined February 2003
104 Posts
April 26 2003 18:18 GMT
#112
^^No

It's called lag.
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
April 26 2003 18:36 GMT
#113
On April 27 2003 02:32 Maynard wrote:
Jamers pointed me to this and i have to thank him. It was rather entertaining. I thought this tourny became bullcrap after the testie crap(sorry dude everyone knows u hack). I dont know if what is said about this tourny is true or not but i still feel sorry for u guys. I saw how many games you all played and how much time each of you invested.

Id like to clear some misconceptions you all have about the Korean experience. The players there and the people on this forum seem to glamorize it without knowing anything about it. It is definately not something you should dedicate your lives to.

Several of you want to go to Korea and win lots of money but in reality you cannot. Face the truth. You have been playing for 4 years straight and you are still not a top player. Going to korea will not change anything. You will not storm onto the scene and win tournament after tournament. You will not win any tournaments nor will you place high in any ladder.

All but a handful of pro gamers make less than a full time mcdonalds employee. You will definately not make any money from this experience.

If winning tournaments and money is not your motivation and adventure is then fine. You can save yourself the bullshit and finance your own trip to Korea. Looking at the ladder i saw several people with hundreds of games. You could earn a couple thousand and go it on your own. It is not hard.

After several months of being in Korea i personally felt sick. I couldnt get over the fact that my life was meaningless there. I was not doing anything worthwhile except playing games. Do you all want to be 30 year old pro gamers?

No one spoke english. All there is to do in Korea is to play games and go to night clubs to try to screw korean sluts. Is that worth your time?

Korea is a very dirty place. It is a third world country. Granted it has its nice parts but for the most part it is very poor and dirty. Almost everyone of you here are from very rich countries, Holland, USA, Canada, etc. Why would you want to move? There is a life outside of your bedroom, trust me you dont have to go to korea to find it.

In short none of you are going to do what grrr did. NONE of you. Do not try. If it is a scam you lost your 20 dollars and your hours of gaming, get over it, its gone.


just cant stop lovin may
tho id like to go to korea for few month to play my fave game.
especially cos i like asian girlz-_-
and dirt doest scare me! i live in brooklyn! lol
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
Klogon
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
MURICA15980 Posts
April 26 2003 18:44 GMT
#114
Third World? ehh... w/e
NuclearAntelope
Profile Joined February 2003
United States1369 Posts
April 26 2003 19:00 GMT
#115
1st=South Korea isn't third world, its economy has boosted in the last two decades and its GDP Per Capita is like 12 times higher now than in 1980.
2nd=I have viewed several sites, pieced together lots of stuff, and this is why i agree with most of you:
a. Dudey, who hasn't been known as a great player, and has struggled in nation wars, suddenly just starts owning every player.
b. All of the maps are leaned towards zerg, only reasonable one is bifrost, where T has a chance.
c. Ret beat "dudey" and it was immediatly called hack and they regamed.
d. They gave korean time for the tourney, although at the beginning i read the intro and it specifically said: "This is an oppertunity for the best NON-KOREAN player get recognized"
e. All this stuff about logging and relogging with different lag bars is wierd.
f. How could dudey magically forget english? Do you people remember rekrul vs elky liquibition, dudey wrote the report in place of rekrul due to a "sore anus" and like 500 people were like OMGGG DUDEY YOU OWN PLEASE WRITE MORE STUFF FOR US AHHH!!
3rd=I respect Liquid.Venice for being honest, and i think you people should lay off nazgul. After coming this far, something tells me hes not willing to risk his pro gaming career so elky and smuft can make some money.
people are similar in nature. its the experience of life that makes them so different.
Smorrie
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
Netherlands2922 Posts
Last Edited: 2003-04-26 19:01:32
April 26 2003 19:01 GMT
#116
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It has a strong technique, but it lacks oo.
iNcontroL88
Profile Joined April 2003
32 Posts
April 26 2003 19:17 GMT
#117
To all those that continue to flame Testie: Please give the man a break. Testie has hacked. Yes he has admitted it and done his damn time for the crime. The hacking incident occurred years ago, many of you dont even realize that. Lets drop the issue now ok? I game with Testie on damn near a regular basis and he has done nothing but be respectful and enjoyable to game with. I have observed him game and not once, let me make this clear, NOT ONCE did i witness a fishy move or strat that could not be attributed to intelligent gaming. Also, if Testie shares his in deapth knowlege on bw, you best pay the fuck attention Testie will not disagree (however my wording may be more harsh than he prefers) His life is bw, he logs in more hours than any of you (minus the pro's that frequent this site Naz etc...) and he prides himself on his knowlege of the game. In fact his largest fits of anger i have witnessed have been due to losing to "someone who doesnt understand bw like he does" SO plz stop flaming his one mistake in the bw world. Granted it was huge but if u have ever spent time with Testie u will know he has more than payed his dues and is one hell of a personality to add to the flavor of this bw community. As for WDT? (may i add my 2 cents) Human nature at its most horrifically lowest level has been demonstrated. Two people already enjoying a life that many have placed as a top priority to attempt to achieve, have taken advantage of their power to make a (relatively speaking) low amount of money. I truely enjoy WGT and further, i have enjoyed observering the great games in WDT. But if you want some advice, do what i have always said. Pay the money for the game and than let that be it. When money gets involved all bets are off. All "friends" are gone. Money rules most people, and in a impersonal atmosphere like battlenet scamming people out of money is really not something the culprets will lose sleep over.
If you actually read my babble...i ty its nice to vent. Also remember my opinions are always up to suggestion i will not claim to be the wisest soul here. I simply had a piece of mind. Thank you!
I will be your Huckleberry Doc Holliday
ForAuir
Profile Joined April 2003
83 Posts
April 26 2003 19:27 GMT
#118
To iNcontroL88:

Well said.
Art backwards is trA... Think about it.
Ion)Positive
Profile Joined March 2003
Morocco1389 Posts
April 26 2003 20:24 GMT
#119
Message to testie: I feel so sorry for you man.. I feel like sticking my sholder out and letting you cry on it.
This was your big chance of your dream coming true.. Going to Korea.. And these mother fuckers Elky and Smuft wanted to just make some easy cash and in effect ruining all your fucking dreams. And I belive its the reason Kiddie left liquid/bw?
Man.. So pissed off and sad for the players. I think they should at least ban ilnp and go back to what testie suggested under "1" on first post on this topic.. Man..
Even if they don't win anything for winning, at least finnish this tourny.. Veg shouldn't be out, testie shouldn't be out, fisheye shouldn't be out, all players I respect to..
Because everything is nothing and emptiness isnt everything. This reality is really just a fucked up dream with the flesh and the blood that you carve your soul flip it inside out its a big black hole.
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
April 26 2003 22:27 GMT
#120
This topic is ridiculous. Almost all of the people who replied did so after hearing only one side (or rather, a few similar sides) of the story. How can one reach a conclusion without hearing what the accused has to say? If you guys were a jury, then you would have just convicted someone without even hearing their defense.

Now, I won't lie and try to put myself above all of this. I, myself, was beginning to believe everything that was going on until I read Rekrul's defense of ilnp. My message is aimed at anyone who hasn't realized yet that it was foolish of them to jump to conclusions about what exactly has just occurred.

After some 8 months of reading the material on this forum, I've learned to reserve my judgements about other people despite what "everyone" says about them. Hopefully, many of you will walk away from this incident having learned to reserve your judgements as well, until you are sufficiently informed to make them.

As for my stance on this whole debate, I am undecided, and I will probably never choose a side. I see myself in no position to make any judgements, here. Fortunately, I don't need to determine what exactly is true, i.e. what I eventually decide is probably not going to make a difference. Therefore, there is no need for me to be decisive. However, I hope that those who are in positions where their judgements will matter will in the end arrive at the correct decisions.

Now, I will wait and see how this continues to unfold and develop.
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