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pt
Profile Joined November 2010
United States813 Posts
June 28 2012 13:08 GMT
#141
Guys, dota 2 is by valve, NOT blizzard.
EG-TL!
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
June 28 2012 13:17 GMT
#142
Oh wow, the thread had been unusually vehement this time around. I guess the poor choice of title didn't help matters any; he did a pretty good translation too =/
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
iG.Zeep
Profile Joined May 2008
Mexico253 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 13:43:14
June 28 2012 13:43 GMT
#143
what the hell!?! T_T fucking LoL -_-;; jesus... the BW pro-scene dying off and all this other crap is so damn depressing... at least the mantoss won his very last game vs July >.< wish rA would of beat XellOs at least lol
On June 28 2012 20:59 Alethios wrote:
For the last 7 years, my heart has skipped a beat at the merest mention of the dreamer.

What the fuck is this shit though? Really Kang Min? Really?

I think I need to move on with my life.

yea... i also pretty much feel the same way here --;
life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 28 2012 14:11 GMT
#144
On June 28 2012 21:49 sGs.Stregon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:37 AsymptoticClimax wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:24 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
YES

LoL is super fun, if you guys haven't given it a chance it's worth it.

I've been told the same thing but I got up to like level 5 and just never played it again. However DotA2 I have my eyes on.


So much Blizzard biased..

Truth be told, I find watching LoL more enjoyable than watching ScToo.. ScToo is just Warcraft in Space with the way it is being balanced, and I was never a fan of Warcraft..

?
Dota 2 is Valve, not Blizz
and the original Dota allstars wasn't Blizz either o_o
:)
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 28 2012 14:35 GMT
#145
On June 28 2012 22:07 optical630 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:30 Cubu wrote:
On June 28 2012 20:29 optical630 wrote:
problem is a moba game isnt a good spectator sport, so its hard to accept it as a legit e-sport, though for LoL it doesnt matter since their are like 30+mil active accounts or something crazy.

still a shame to not see him play sc2, wouldda been cool to see him again.


nal_ra oldboy 2 ?

except lol tournaments have reached viewer numbers in the 200k range.


yeh but when you think how many people play LoL, thats hardly any of the playerbase.

you're also misunderstanding what 'spectator sport' is. LoL isnt spectator friendly at all unless you play and know whats happening, unlike sc2 where its like "oh, this guy has the bigger army and more bases therfore he is winning" etc where you dont necessarily need to play in order to see whos doing better, obviously its deeper than that though but its just an example.


Dude, just let it go. SC2 is/won't be as big as LoL. Accept it, see the reason for yourself and make Blizzard change their attitude. If you can't, then say goodbye to SCToo.
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StarStruck
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
25339 Posts
June 28 2012 14:37 GMT
#146
On June 28 2012 16:20 GTR wrote:
It's been clear since the start of the Champions series that OGN want to make LoL their flagship broadcast game post-BW. They've occupied the Wednesday/Friday night slots (previously held by the OSL) and most OGN personalities have switched from casting/hosting BW to LoL.


The writing has been on the wall for sometime now. This should really come as no surprise if you follow the other games.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
June 28 2012 14:37 GMT
#147
You can be fans of both. The only thing I don't like about mobas is that games are a good 30 minutes + not including break/setup for the next game time so you wait 40-60 minutes a game which is roughly 2x the amount of time of an average SC/SCII game with setup and tear down. So viewer fatigue is a big issue for me.
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jpak
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States5045 Posts
June 28 2012 14:52 GMT
#148
On June 28 2012 23:37 Antisocialmunky wrote:
You can be fans of both. The only thing I don't like about mobas is that games are a good 30 minutes + not including break/setup for the next game time so you wait 40-60 minutes a game which is roughly 2x the amount of time of an average SC/SCII game with setup and tear down. So viewer fatigue is a big issue for me.


I still remember Xenics Storm vs MiG Frost OGN Spring Champions semifinals. That went the full 5 sets, the games went past midnight, yet the place was still packed. Mind you, public transportation, for the most part, shuts down after midnight in Korea.

That series is still the best series I have ever seen in LoL.
CJ Entusman #50! #1 클템 fan TL!
Cubu
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1171 Posts
June 28 2012 14:52 GMT
#149
On June 28 2012 22:07 optical630 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:30 Cubu wrote:
On June 28 2012 20:29 optical630 wrote:
problem is a moba game isnt a good spectator sport, so its hard to accept it as a legit e-sport, though for LoL it doesnt matter since their are like 30+mil active accounts or something crazy.

still a shame to not see him play sc2, wouldda been cool to see him again.


nal_ra oldboy 2 ?

except lol tournaments have reached viewer numbers in the 200k range.


yeh but when you think how many people play LoL, thats hardly any of the playerbase.

you're also misunderstanding what 'spectator sport' is. LoL isnt spectator friendly at all unless you play and know whats happening, unlike sc2 where its like "oh, this guy has the bigger army and more bases therfore he is winning" etc where you dont necessarily need to play in order to see whos doing better, obviously its deeper than that though but its just an example.

I honestly don't think people (at least in korea) give a damn about whether something is 'spectator sport' or not. Sc2 in korea looks like it's headed downhill. And the fact that you have to buy WoL to play HotS (i.e pay $100) doesn't really help esports grow.
DeadBull
Profile Joined August 2011
421 Posts
June 28 2012 14:59 GMT
#150
Very sad TT
beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
June 28 2012 15:07 GMT
#151
On June 28 2012 22:04 Darksoldierr wrote:
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On June 28 2012 20:26 SCnai wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:02 Valikyr wrote:
Nal_ra was my favorite player for many years. Now I don't care about him at all anymore... Pathetic casual game.


Your views on SC2 are harsh but not without substance. If you however are not understanding of players and commentators switching to a shallow game to earn their living, you'll have no-one to cheer for.


He switched to LoL not Sc2 ^^

-whoooooosh-
TBA
Profile Joined December 2011
92 Posts
June 28 2012 15:10 GMT
#152
Good Luck SnossToss
Grubby ~ MVP ~ TLO ~ TigerToss ~ GoD
Azelja
Profile Joined May 2011
Japan762 Posts
June 28 2012 15:15 GMT
#153
Wooh! Cool news! Seeing as how I really like LoL as well as BW and SC2, I don't really care all too much about that "Oh noes! LoL is evil/bad/the dark side!!11111" but am rather happy to see it doing so well

Good luck, yo :D
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 15:19:40
June 28 2012 15:18 GMT
#154
Anyone else that thinks sc2 wouldn't be #1 even if LoL didn't get into KeSPA and they acquired something else like DOTA2 or some popular game in Korea that can be played competitive? I just have that feeling that LoL skyrocket so hard not just because they find it fun and for the social aspect but also because they are a bit sick of Starcraft and if they ain't even gonna have the chance to watch BW, the superior Starcraft version and what they know and prefer, why even bother with sc2 you know?

Maybe I'm just out of the loop here but it just feels like SC2 was doomed to fail either way and the koreans jumped on the chance to follow something new.
[13:40] <Qbek> gosi i dreanmt about you
Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
June 28 2012 15:26 GMT
#155
On June 28 2012 22:07 optical630 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 21:30 Cubu wrote:
On June 28 2012 20:29 optical630 wrote:
problem is a moba game isnt a good spectator sport, so its hard to accept it as a legit e-sport, though for LoL it doesnt matter since their are like 30+mil active accounts or something crazy.

still a shame to not see him play sc2, wouldda been cool to see him again.


nal_ra oldboy 2 ?

except lol tournaments have reached viewer numbers in the 200k range.


yeh but when you think how many people play LoL, thats hardly any of the playerbase.

you're also misunderstanding what 'spectator sport' is. LoL isnt spectator friendly at all unless you play and know whats happening, unlike sc2 where its like "oh, this guy has the bigger army and more bases therfore he is winning" etc where you dont necessarily need to play in order to see whos doing better, obviously its deeper than that though but its just an example.

Please. You can use that simplification for anything. "Oh this team has way more kills, towers, and gold. Obviously they are therefore winning." You also don't need to play in order to see who's doing better.
Writer:o
TR
Profile Joined February 2011
2320 Posts
June 28 2012 16:47 GMT
#156
So sad..
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
June 28 2012 16:55 GMT
#157
Kang Min!
Darksoldierr
Profile Joined May 2010
Hungary2013 Posts
June 28 2012 17:02 GMT
#158
On June 29 2012 00:26 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:07 optical630 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:30 Cubu wrote:
On June 28 2012 20:29 optical630 wrote:
problem is a moba game isnt a good spectator sport, so its hard to accept it as a legit e-sport, though for LoL it doesnt matter since their are like 30+mil active accounts or something crazy.

still a shame to not see him play sc2, wouldda been cool to see him again.


nal_ra oldboy 2 ?

except lol tournaments have reached viewer numbers in the 200k range.


yeh but when you think how many people play LoL, thats hardly any of the playerbase.

you're also misunderstanding what 'spectator sport' is. LoL isnt spectator friendly at all unless you play and know whats happening, unlike sc2 where its like "oh, this guy has the bigger army and more bases therfore he is winning" etc where you dont necessarily need to play in order to see whos doing better, obviously its deeper than that though but its just an example.

Please. You can use that simplification for anything. "Oh this team has way more kills, towers, and gold. Obviously they are therefore winning." You also don't need to play in order to see who's doing better.


To be honest, a 5v5 team fight in LoL is a lot more chaotic than a 200 vs 200 in Sc2, and even the fights in Sc2 looks retardedly fast and chaotic compared to BW
What do humans know of our pain? We have sung songs of lament since before your ancestors crawled on their bellies from the sea.
Fragile51
Profile Joined October 2011
Netherlands15767 Posts
June 28 2012 17:09 GMT
#159
On June 29 2012 00:26 Kiett wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 28 2012 22:07 optical630 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:30 Cubu wrote:
On June 28 2012 20:29 optical630 wrote:
problem is a moba game isnt a good spectator sport, so its hard to accept it as a legit e-sport, though for LoL it doesnt matter since their are like 30+mil active accounts or something crazy.

still a shame to not see him play sc2, wouldda been cool to see him again.


nal_ra oldboy 2 ?

except lol tournaments have reached viewer numbers in the 200k range.


yeh but when you think how many people play LoL, thats hardly any of the playerbase.

you're also misunderstanding what 'spectator sport' is. LoL isnt spectator friendly at all unless you play and know whats happening, unlike sc2 where its like "oh, this guy has the bigger army and more bases therfore he is winning" etc where you dont necessarily need to play in order to see whos doing better, obviously its deeper than that though but its just an example.

Please. You can use that simplification for anything. "Oh this team has way more kills, towers, and gold. Obviously they are therefore winning." You also don't need to play in order to see who's doing better.


It's not about seeing who's doing better, it's about understanding Why one is doing better. There's no way to deny that for a non LoL player it is nearly impossible to understand what is actually going on during a battle. In starcraft, it can be easily seen "Well he had a better position" or "Well he had more stuff" instead of "well they had better items" or "well these hero's work better together". The latter takes either more understanding of the game or a commentator who is going to repeat what the items do every game, which is not exactly a good thing.
0neder
Profile Joined July 2009
United States3733 Posts
June 28 2012 17:32 GMT
#160
If people will stop pretending that SC2's game design is just fine as an esport, then they will only kill the game faster.

This is a symptom. SC2 needs fundamental changes to maintain the interest of the best BW minds.
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