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beefhamburger
Profile Joined December 2007
United States3962 Posts
June 28 2012 17:49 GMT
#161
On June 29 2012 02:09 Fragile51 wrote:
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On June 29 2012 00:26 Kiett wrote:
On June 28 2012 22:07 optical630 wrote:
On June 28 2012 21:30 Cubu wrote:
On June 28 2012 20:29 optical630 wrote:
problem is a moba game isnt a good spectator sport, so its hard to accept it as a legit e-sport, though for LoL it doesnt matter since their are like 30+mil active accounts or something crazy.

still a shame to not see him play sc2, wouldda been cool to see him again.


nal_ra oldboy 2 ?

except lol tournaments have reached viewer numbers in the 200k range.


yeh but when you think how many people play LoL, thats hardly any of the playerbase.

you're also misunderstanding what 'spectator sport' is. LoL isnt spectator friendly at all unless you play and know whats happening, unlike sc2 where its like "oh, this guy has the bigger army and more bases therfore he is winning" etc where you dont necessarily need to play in order to see whos doing better, obviously its deeper than that though but its just an example.

Please. You can use that simplification for anything. "Oh this team has way more kills, towers, and gold. Obviously they are therefore winning." You also don't need to play in order to see who's doing better.


It's not about seeing who's doing better, it's about understanding Why one is doing better. There's no way to deny that for a non LoL player it is nearly impossible to understand what is actually going on during a battle. In starcraft, it can be easily seen "Well he had a better position" or "Well he had more stuff" instead of "well they had better items" or "well these hero's work better together". The latter takes either more understanding of the game or a commentator who is going to repeat what the items do every game, which is not exactly a good thing.

You say it as if SC2 is so much more straightforward. There are plenty of times where the "bigger" army doesn't win (e.g. immortal/stalker army vs a maxed roach army). Or you can make the case of drop play with a smaller standing army can eventually win over a bigger immobile army. I think you take for granted your own SC2 knowledge and assume "everyone" will be able to discern who is in a better position or not. Both games are/can be confusing for someone that does not watch those respective games. It's way too presumptuous to assume SC2 is any easier to understand WHY someone is doing better than LoL or any other game with strategy.
AsymptoticClimax
Profile Joined May 2012
United Kingdom249 Posts
June 28 2012 17:52 GMT
#162
On June 28 2012 21:49 sGs.Stregon wrote:
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On June 28 2012 21:37 AsymptoticClimax wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:24 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
YES

LoL is super fun, if you guys haven't given it a chance it's worth it.

I've been told the same thing but I got up to like level 5 and just never played it again. However DotA2 I have my eyes on.


So much Blizzard biased..

Truth be told, I find watching LoL more enjoyable than watching ScToo.. ScToo is just Warcraft in Space with the way it is being balanced, and I was never a fan of Warcraft..

sorry you lost me at scToo.
i wish my motherboard would find a fatherboard so i could have anotherboard
TenJin`Lucian
Profile Joined August 2011
Costa Rica158 Posts
June 28 2012 18:51 GMT
#163
Guess I'll just watch the korean commentating now (not that the english one was too good either way)

Kang Min fighting!
SCnai
Profile Joined February 2010
322 Posts
June 28 2012 19:15 GMT
#164
On June 28 2012 22:04 Darksoldierr wrote:
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On June 28 2012 20:26 SCnai wrote:
On June 28 2012 13:02 Valikyr wrote:
Nal_ra was my favorite player for many years. Now I don't care about him at all anymore... Pathetic casual game.


Your views on SC2 are harsh but not without substance. If you however are not understanding of players and commentators switching to a shallow game to earn their living, you'll have no-one to cheer for.


He switched to LoL not Sc2 ^^


Yeah, I know. This was feigned misunderstanding. All I've wanted to say is that SC2 fans really should not cry "Betrayal!1!" when a BW legend switches to a dumbed down game solely to earn money. Rocks in glass houses and all that.
The legend of the fall, which everyone thought was only a dream, is being revived! Carriers, the symbol of Protoss, the hope of a million Protoss fans, are reviving the legend!
ProxyKnoxy
Profile Joined April 2011
United Kingdom2576 Posts
June 28 2012 19:18 GMT
#165
Ah... looks like this is becoming a trend. I'm not sure how long SC2 will last in Korea with LoL being the new best thing.
"Zealot try give mariners high five. Mariners not like high five and try hide and shoot zealot"
ChApFoU
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
France2982 Posts
June 28 2012 19:46 GMT
#166
My worship for this guy reaches such heights that I might consider playing LoL !
"I honestly think that whoever invented toilet paper in a genius" Kang Min
Headshot
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States1656 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 19:50:58
June 28 2012 19:49 GMT
#167
On June 29 2012 04:46 ChApFoU wrote:
My worship for this guy reaches such heights that I might consider playing LoL !

It's fun!

And Kang Min has been my favorite progamer since forever and I'm happy to see him come back regardless of which community he decided to join. League of a lot more competitive than the Starcraft community gives it credit, so I seriously advise all of those who have tried to stay away from it to give it a chance!
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scCassius
Profile Joined March 2011
United States254 Posts
June 28 2012 19:52 GMT
#168
Okay, guys, anyone saying this means that Korea thinks SC2 has no future is wrong. It just means Nal_ra likes LoL more. Like, that's it. There's nothing more to be read in to.
ArC_man
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States2798 Posts
June 28 2012 19:58 GMT
#169
Good for him.

KM really slimmed down from the military
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 28 2012 19:58 GMT
#170
On June 29 2012 04:49 Headshot wrote:
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On June 29 2012 04:46 ChApFoU wrote:
My worship for this guy reaches such heights that I might consider playing LoL !

It's fun!

And Kang Min has been my favorite progamer since forever and I'm happy to see him come back regardless of which community he decided to join. League of a lot more competitive than the Starcraft community gives it credit, so I seriously advise all of those who have tried to stay away from it to give it a chance!


Fun, but casual and easy.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
June 28 2012 20:14 GMT
#171
On June 29 2012 04:58 Zoler wrote:
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On June 29 2012 04:49 Headshot wrote:
On June 29 2012 04:46 ChApFoU wrote:
My worship for this guy reaches such heights that I might consider playing LoL !

It's fun!

And Kang Min has been my favorite progamer since forever and I'm happy to see him come back regardless of which community he decided to join. League of a lot more competitive than the Starcraft community gives it credit, so I seriously advise all of those who have tried to stay away from it to give it a chance!


Fun, but casual and easy.


Here we go again...
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therockmanxx
Profile Joined July 2010
Peru1174 Posts
June 28 2012 21:06 GMT
#172
Well you know what they say
Better LoL than SC2 !!

Btw Didnt Nal Ra said that he was gonna do military service?
Did that already finish ?? Omg I am so Old T_T

User was warned for this post
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0kz
Profile Joined January 2010
Italy1118 Posts
June 28 2012 21:08 GMT
#173
I don't hate on lol but damn I feel sad...
Gosi
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Sweden9072 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-28 21:11:17
June 28 2012 21:10 GMT
#174
On June 29 2012 04:52 scCassius wrote:
Okay, guys, anyone saying this means that Korea thinks SC2 has no future is wrong. It just means Nal_ra likes LoL more. Like, that's it. There's nothing more to be read in to.

This is just what you want to believe. But deep down there you know that LoL is the new overlord and in the end it will "kill" SC2 (along with Blizzard and their stupidity) in a way or another. Otherwise you would never felt like you needed to defend SC2.
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Saechiis
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Netherlands4989 Posts
June 28 2012 21:10 GMT
#175
Saddening, but I guess LoL's where the most ex-progamer job opportunities are at right now.
I think esports is pretty nice.
FairForever
Profile Joined February 2011
Canada2392 Posts
June 28 2012 21:27 GMT
#176
On June 29 2012 06:10 Gosi wrote:
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On June 29 2012 04:52 scCassius wrote:
Okay, guys, anyone saying this means that Korea thinks SC2 has no future is wrong. It just means Nal_ra likes LoL more. Like, that's it. There's nothing more to be read in to.

This is just what you want to believe. But deep down there you know that LoL is the new overlord and in the end it will "kill" SC2 (along with Blizzard and their stupidity) in a way or another. Otherwise you would never felt like you needed to defend SC2.


If someone said BW is a crappy game, I guess you would never defend it too, otherwise you're just validating their opinion because deep down you know it's true... you wouldn't need to feel like you had to defend BW?

I don't think BW sucks and I enjoyed the (limited) amounts I've watched but that's what your analogy is stating.
Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
June 28 2012 22:33 GMT
#177
On June 29 2012 06:27 FairForever wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 06:10 Gosi wrote:
On June 29 2012 04:52 scCassius wrote:
Okay, guys, anyone saying this means that Korea thinks SC2 has no future is wrong. It just means Nal_ra likes LoL more. Like, that's it. There's nothing more to be read in to.

This is just what you want to believe. But deep down there you know that LoL is the new overlord and in the end it will "kill" SC2 (along with Blizzard and their stupidity) in a way or another. Otherwise you would never felt like you needed to defend SC2.


If someone said BW is a crappy game, I guess you would never defend it too, otherwise you're just validating their opinion because deep down you know it's true... you wouldn't need to feel like you had to defend BW?

I don't think BW sucks and I enjoyed the (limited) amounts I've watched but that's what your analogy is stating.



If someone said BW is a crappy game, I would take the gentleman gesture and ask him "What is your favorite game?". Come back with as much research I can possibly get. Then next time we meet, I will slowly but painfully dissect that game and tear it right in front of his face while holding on a calm posture.

Watch the madness begin.
2014 - ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ Raise your bows brood warriors! ᕙ( •̀ل͜•́) ϡ
MeteorRise
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada611 Posts
June 28 2012 23:30 GMT
#178
What the. Makes sense, but is kind of weird to see. I wish him the best of luck.
Elegance, in all things.
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34490 Posts
June 28 2012 23:39 GMT
#179
Dota2 is still extremely new, and anyway I think Valve's focus with Dota2 is currently mainly on China. LoL has a much bigger presence in the scene, especially in places that don't have a previous Dota1 base. I'm not surprised LoL is doing well in Korea.
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Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
June 28 2012 23:49 GMT
#180
On June 29 2012 05:14 IntoTheWow wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 29 2012 04:58 Zoler wrote:
On June 29 2012 04:49 Headshot wrote:
On June 29 2012 04:46 ChApFoU wrote:
My worship for this guy reaches such heights that I might consider playing LoL !

It's fun!

And Kang Min has been my favorite progamer since forever and I'm happy to see him come back regardless of which community he decided to join. League of a lot more competitive than the Starcraft community gives it credit, so I seriously advise all of those who have tried to stay away from it to give it a chance!


Fun, but casual and easy.


Here we go again...


Just stating facts.
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
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