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On June 28 2012 15:35 Highways wrote: Blame Blizzard for killing Starcraft 2 in Korea.
They had 2 years to make it big in Korea but they spent their time taking OGN to court instead. Can't blame Riot Games for seizing the opportunity.
blizzard doesn't give a crap that they killed SC2 in korea.
as long as they're getting money from people broadcasting their game. As opposed to Riot who not only lets people broadcast for free, but also helps in some cases.
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Oh man I was hoping for a new Oldboy with Nal_Ra learning sc2
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Super stoked for this, I watch a lot of LoL now and watch much much less Sc2 than I used to in the past, Nal_Ra should be a great commentator and I'm excited to listen to him, even though I won't understand a single thing he's saying.
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On June 29 2012 15:09 Witten wrote: Super stoked for this, I watch a lot of LoL now and watch much much less Sc2 than I used to in the past, Nal_Ra should be a great commentator and I'm excited to listen to him, even though I won't understand a single thing he's saying.
His mere image sends me waves of nostalgia and chills. IMO, don't even need the voice much less understanding what he's saying.
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On June 29 2012 09:33 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 09:14 jpak wrote:On June 29 2012 09:03 Xiphos wrote:On June 29 2012 08:57 Apex wrote: Every time these kinds of threads opens it either degenerates into:
a) SC2 v. LoL b) SC2 v. BW c) DoTA2 v. LoL
It's like some kind of universal law or something. Its inevitable. BW fans basically got their most passionate item taken away with the release of SC2. SC2 fans are astonished to see their game not doing as good as they expected it to in SK due to bad management on Blizzard's part. And DotA2 fans are pissed off because LoL is deemed as a inferior game mechanic-wise in their eyes. And the OP have 3 of the 4 games involved. So it is some kind of universal law.. or something. It's like a fucking bat signal. A thread about LoL, they come swarming like crazy. On top of that, the arguments between these sides have been exactly the same since forever: SC2 vs LoL: LOL claims they are better since they have more viewes/playerbase SC2 claims they are better because it requires more skill and that the players and viewers are worth more since they are ready to invest more money (Its the whole free vs non free) SC2 vs BW: BW claims that they are more right since its the "original" game and it actually requires skill and that SC2 is killing BW. SC2 Claims that they are newer and that innovation was required since SC:BW was getting too old and basically had no future in the Wester scene and was dying in Korea. DoTA2 v. LoL not even worth commentating about, it's just "BLARRGH BLARRGH THIS REQUIRE MORE SKILL THAN YOURS BLARRGH". You could actually predict ahead of time what argument each side will choose to use when the debate starts.
Actually, i kinda liked your last compare :D
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On June 29 2012 09:33 Integra wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 09:14 jpak wrote:On June 29 2012 09:03 Xiphos wrote:On June 29 2012 08:57 Apex wrote: Every time these kinds of threads opens it either degenerates into:
a) SC2 v. LoL b) SC2 v. BW c) DoTA2 v. LoL
It's like some kind of universal law or something. Its inevitable. BW fans basically got their most passionate item taken away with the release of SC2. SC2 fans are astonished to see their game not doing as good as they expected it to in SK due to bad management on Blizzard's part. And DotA2 fans are pissed off because LoL is deemed as a inferior game mechanic-wise in their eyes. And the OP have 3 of the 4 games involved. So it is some kind of universal law.. or something. It's like a fucking bat signal. A thread about LoL, they come swarming like crazy. On top of that, the arguments between these sides have been exactly the same since forever: SC2 vs LoL: LOL claims they are better since they have more viewes/playerbase SC2 claims they are better because it requires more skill and that the players and viewers are worth more since they are ready to invest more money (Its the whole free vs non free) SC2 vs BW: BW claims that SC2 is boring and shallow. And full of bullshit from Acti-Blizz's part. SC2 Claims that they are newer and that innovation was required since SC:BW was getting too old and basically had no future in the Wester scene and was dying in Korea. DoTA2 v. LoL not even worth commentating about, it's just "BLARRGH BLARRGH THIS REQUIRE MORE SKILL THAN YOURS BLARRGH". You could actually predict ahead of time what argument each side will choose to use when the debate starts.
Fixed that for you. Didn't want to start but couldn't stand your post.
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Russian Federation748 Posts
Allright, let's get serious. DId he not retire in order to become a teacher at the Seoul Institue of Arts 'not sure of the name) ? What of it ? Surely that job could not be as lowly as his next one. Did he choose to quit it, was he not needed any more, did someone take his place while he was in the army ? Thanks to anyone who can answer.
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Glad he got a job in esports. I think he made the right pick, sc2 is successful internationally but not so much in sk. LoL looks to have a lot more potential over there even though it's kind of bad.
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Time really passes quickly. It doesn't feel that long ago when I watch the Old Boy show with the final episode being his sendoff. Heck he has the potential to be good at LoL if he wanted to play professionally. The stuff he does with protoss spell units like arbiter/hallucination just illustrate how quick he can be at thinking creatively.
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On June 29 2012 19:52 Kyrillion wrote: Allright, let's get serious. DId he not retire in order to become a teacher at the Seoul Institue of Arts 'not sure of the name) ? What of it ? Surely that job could not be as lowly as his next one. Did he choose to quit it, was he not needed any more, did someone take his place while he was in the army ? Thanks to anyone who can answer. The fuck are you even talking about? He retired and became a commentator. He worked for MBCGame for a year and then moved to OGN. Until the very day he left for the army, he was an esports commentator for OGN. Now that he's returned from the army, he's going to resume being an esports commentator for OGN.
If you consider being an esports commentator as a "lowly" job, then you're probably on the wrong website.
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On June 30 2012 01:45 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 19:52 Kyrillion wrote: Allright, let's get serious. DId he not retire in order to become a teacher at the Seoul Institue of Arts 'not sure of the name) ? What of it ? Surely that job could not be as lowly as his next one. Did he choose to quit it, was he not needed any more, did someone take his place while he was in the army ? Thanks to anyone who can answer. The fuck are you even talking about? He retired and became a commentator. He worked for MBCGame for a year and then moved to OGN. Until the very day he left for the army, he was an esports commentator for OGN. Now that he's returned from the army, he's going to resume being an esports commentator for OGN. If you consider being an esports commentator as a "lowly" job, then you're probably on the wrong website.
It all depends what game he is commentating apparently.
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Nal_ra needs to commentate SC2!! Geez he was such a boss in BW, it would be awesome to see him go hard on some starcraft 2 ><
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On June 30 2012 01:45 Kiett wrote:Show nested quote +On June 29 2012 19:52 Kyrillion wrote: Allright, let's get serious. DId he not retire in order to become a teacher at the Seoul Institue of Arts 'not sure of the name) ? What of it ? Surely that job could not be as lowly as his next one. Did he choose to quit it, was he not needed any more, did someone take his place while he was in the army ? Thanks to anyone who can answer. The fuck are you even talking about? He retired and became a commentator. He worked for MBCGame for a year and then moved to OGN. Until the very day he left for the army, he was an esports commentator for OGN. Now that he's returned from the army, he's going to resume being an esports commentator for OGN. If you consider being an esports commentator as a "lowly" job, then you're probably on the wrong website. there was a post 2-3 years ago about him leaving mbc and starting teaching some class, no idea what happened to that though
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On June 30 2012 02:27 MysteryTerran wrote: Nal_ra needs to commentate SC2!! Geez he was such a boss in BW, it would be awesome to see him go hard on some starcraft 2 ><
No he doesn't. He chose LoL because he sees the game having more potential. Respect it.
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On June 30 2012 02:37 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On June 30 2012 02:27 MysteryTerran wrote: Nal_ra needs to commentate SC2!! Geez he was such a boss in BW, it would be awesome to see him go hard on some starcraft 2 >< No he doesn't. He chose LoL because he sees the game having more potential. Respect it.
He does, he just says he would love to see him cast Sc2, theres nothing wrong having dreams.
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I LoL'd.... ^^'
Sad that he chose LoL over SC2 though....
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You guys don't know what you're talking about if you think Nal is going to LoL because he thinks Sc2 is a bad game. Chances are that he's retired from pro-gaming in general and doesn't want to bother with a game that requires even a similar amount of skill.
You all can argue how you like, but at the end of the day League of Legends is an objectively easier game to play/learn than that of the Starcraft series. Top that off with the fact that it's free and you have the perfect brooding ground for retired professional players.
Think of it as if you had a Masters degree in Mathematics and got a high paying job to teach it in 5th grade. It would be so simple for you to do and the reward would be so high that it doesn't matter that the people you are teaching aren't University students.
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On June 30 2012 03:17 BatesC wrote: You guys don't know what you're talking about if you think Nal is going to LoL because he thinks Sc2 is a bad game. Chances are that he's retired from pro-gaming in general and doesn't want to bother with a game that requires even a similar amount of skill.
You all can argue how you like, but at the end of the day League of Legends is an objectively easier game to play/learn than that of the Starcraft series. Top that off with the fact that it's free and you have the perfect brooding ground for retired professional players.
Think of it as if you had a Masters degree in Mathematics and got a high paying job to teach it in 5th grade. It would be so simple for you to do and the reward would be so high that it doesn't matter that the people you are teaching aren't University students. Lol stop fooling yourself.. Moba games are about teamwork and communication. Any game that competitors practice 8-10 hours a day is naturally going to be fucking hard.
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Hey just a question. Now with the korean scene booming when it comes to LoL and OGN going all in with it, how many KeSPA teams have LoL squads right now? The only one I know is CJ. How many companies outside of KeSPA have teams? Or is the team situation more like it is in the korean sc2 scene?
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Russian Federation748 Posts
Have a look at that page. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=101653 Now you obviously know about his carrier better than me, but if anyone had informations about that project I'd be interested (apparently 2010 is also when he started the army ?).
And I don't consider commentating an esport to be a lowly job, but I don't consider AOS to be esports either. I'm definitely not on the wrong site.
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