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On May 15 2012 11:28 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 11:09 Chef wrote:
Also Ribbon, you're just wrong. Years before SC2 was in beta, when it was just random anouncements and empty promises and alpha versions at Blizzcons, they announced very clearly that they intended And it was lip service because of how much they ignored the community prior to last November or so. They wanted rush maps for casuals; no one in the competitive scene like them, and they didn't care.
No they wanted to cater both audience right of from the bat. The casual and the pros. With the pros, they improved on the observing aspect with all those bar displaying progresses of the player's build and timing. For the casuals, they got rid of single building select, added Automine, smartcasting and increased the hotkey slot to god knows how big that number is. Furthermore, right after the release of SC2, tournaments are already being pressured into the mainstream with Blizzard Cup 2011. Not the mention this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2228428166 thread about Blizzard backing NASL with 400K. Its all a part of their plan.
Oh yeah @ the hindrance of BW have already started as early as 2010. Blizzard phased out the game to partake in the tournament and favored SC2 with BlizzCon 2010 StarCraft II Invitational. The game have only been released for 4 month.
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On May 15 2012 12:05 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 11:28 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 11:09 Chef wrote:
Also Ribbon, you're just wrong. Years before SC2 was in beta, when it was just random anouncements and empty promises and alpha versions at Blizzcons, they announced very clearly that they intended And it was lip service because of how much they ignored the community prior to last November or so. They wanted rush maps for casuals; no one in the competitive scene like them, and they didn't care. No they wanted to cater both audience right of from the bat. The casual and the pros. With the pros, they improved on the observing aspect with all those bar displaying progresses of the player's build and timing. For the casuals, they got rid of single building select, added Automine, smartcasting and increased the hotkey slot to god knows how big that number is. Furthermore, right after the release of SC2, tournaments are already being pressured into the mainstream with Blizzard Cup 2011. Not the mention this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2228428166 thread about Blizzard backing NASL with 400K. Its all a part of their plan.
What the hell? They did no such thing, and the only evidence they did is a misreading of a one-off statement by some NASL guy? Blizz had a much smaller "eSports" budget in 2011 than in 2012, according to Rob Simpson in an interview. And if Blizz were going to back a tournament, why NASL? It's like the fifth biggest tournament in the scene, and at the time people literally thought it was a scam. When Blizzard gets involved in a tournment, they want their name all over the place; that was part of the KeSPA fight.
Also, they're publically traded, so they couldn't secretly give NASL 400k even if they wanted to. That would be a crime, I believe.
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If BW really does die, i'll just post in General/League forums, since I have no desire to play or watch SC2.
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On May 15 2012 14:36 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 12:05 Xiphos wrote:On May 15 2012 11:28 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 11:09 Chef wrote:
Also Ribbon, you're just wrong. Years before SC2 was in beta, when it was just random anouncements and empty promises and alpha versions at Blizzcons, they announced very clearly that they intended And it was lip service because of how much they ignored the community prior to last November or so. They wanted rush maps for casuals; no one in the competitive scene like them, and they didn't care. No they wanted to cater both audience right of from the bat. The casual and the pros. With the pros, they improved on the observing aspect with all those bar displaying progresses of the player's build and timing. For the casuals, they got rid of single building select, added Automine, smartcasting and increased the hotkey slot to god knows how big that number is. Furthermore, right after the release of SC2, tournaments are already being pressured into the mainstream with Blizzard Cup 2011. Not the mention this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2228428166 thread about Blizzard backing NASL with 400K. Its all a part of their plan. What the hell? They did no such thing, and the only evidence they did is a misreading of a one-off statement by some NASL guy? Blizz had a much smaller "eSports" budget in 2011 than in 2012, according to Rob Simpson in an interview. And if Blizz were going to back a tournament, why NASL? It's like the fifth biggest tournament in the scene, and at the time people literally thought it was a scam. When Blizzard gets involved in a tournment, they want their name all over the place; that was part of the KeSPA fight. Also, they're publically traded, so they couldn't secretly give NASL 400k even if they wanted to. That would be a crime, I believe.
Maybe because NASL wasn't get enough fund from sponsors so Blizzard have to act in the shadow as the 'police of the esport for justice.' So yes this is their method of keeping the scene up afloat. And no it wouldn't a crime because it could be as simple as writting a check to someone without exposing to everyone, that is completely legal.
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They should add 2v2 for SC2. That could actually be interesting.
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On May 16 2012 07:27 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 14:36 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 12:05 Xiphos wrote:On May 15 2012 11:28 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 11:09 Chef wrote:
Also Ribbon, you're just wrong. Years before SC2 was in beta, when it was just random anouncements and empty promises and alpha versions at Blizzcons, they announced very clearly that they intended And it was lip service because of how much they ignored the community prior to last November or so. They wanted rush maps for casuals; no one in the competitive scene like them, and they didn't care. No they wanted to cater both audience right of from the bat. The casual and the pros. With the pros, they improved on the observing aspect with all those bar displaying progresses of the player's build and timing. For the casuals, they got rid of single building select, added Automine, smartcasting and increased the hotkey slot to god knows how big that number is. Furthermore, right after the release of SC2, tournaments are already being pressured into the mainstream with Blizzard Cup 2011. Not the mention this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2228428166 thread about Blizzard backing NASL with 400K. Its all a part of their plan. What the hell? They did no such thing, and the only evidence they did is a misreading of a one-off statement by some NASL guy? Blizz had a much smaller "eSports" budget in 2011 than in 2012, according to Rob Simpson in an interview. And if Blizz were going to back a tournament, why NASL? It's like the fifth biggest tournament in the scene, and at the time people literally thought it was a scam. When Blizzard gets involved in a tournment, they want their name all over the place; that was part of the KeSPA fight. Also, they're publically traded, so they couldn't secretly give NASL 400k even if they wanted to. That would be a crime, I believe. Maybe because NASL wasn't get enough fund from sponsors so Blizzard have to act in the shadow as the 'police of the esport for justice.' So yes this is their method of keeping the scene up afloat. And no it wouldn't a crime because it could be as simple as writting a check to someone without exposing to everyone, that is completely legal.
No it's not. They're a publicly traded company and they have to release their books. Stop making shit up.
On May 16 2012 09:58 reincremate wrote:
They should add 2v2 for SC2. That could actually be interesting.
Not sure if troll....
They have 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and Free-For-All, as well as an actually not very good custom games system that's getting reworked in the next patch
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Pretty sure he means 2v2 in proleague, Ribbon -.-
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On May 16 2012 10:07 Ribbon wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 09:58 reincremate wrote:
They should add 2v2 for SC2. That could actually be interesting. Not sure if troll.... They have 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and Free-For-All, as well as an actually not very good custom games system that's getting reworked in the next patch
I should have been more clear; I meant for PL. I still play SC2 2v2 sometimes but never 1v1. I honestly think 2v2 in SC2 would be more interesting to watch than 1v1 and that it has a lot more potential for strategic development than 1v1.That being said, I don't think it's anywhere near as amazing as BW and wish that they would stick to BW exclusively (which obviously won't happen). BW 2v2 in contrast was kind of lame to watch.
edit: then again, it might just be the fact that 2v2 is more fun because you're usually doing it with friends, so it makes it seem like pro 2v2 would be better than it is. It's still mostly ball vs ball, but with more variety.
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On May 16 2012 07:27 Xiphos wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2012 14:36 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 12:05 Xiphos wrote:On May 15 2012 11:28 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 11:09 Chef wrote:
Also Ribbon, you're just wrong. Years before SC2 was in beta, when it was just random anouncements and empty promises and alpha versions at Blizzcons, they announced very clearly that they intended And it was lip service because of how much they ignored the community prior to last November or so. They wanted rush maps for casuals; no one in the competitive scene like them, and they didn't care. No they wanted to cater both audience right of from the bat. The casual and the pros. With the pros, they improved on the observing aspect with all those bar displaying progresses of the player's build and timing. For the casuals, they got rid of single building select, added Automine, smartcasting and increased the hotkey slot to god knows how big that number is. Furthermore, right after the release of SC2, tournaments are already being pressured into the mainstream with Blizzard Cup 2011. Not the mention this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2228428166 thread about Blizzard backing NASL with 400K. Its all a part of their plan. What the hell? They did no such thing, and the only evidence they did is a misreading of a one-off statement by some NASL guy? Blizz had a much smaller "eSports" budget in 2011 than in 2012, according to Rob Simpson in an interview. And if Blizz were going to back a tournament, why NASL? It's like the fifth biggest tournament in the scene, and at the time people literally thought it was a scam. When Blizzard gets involved in a tournment, they want their name all over the place; that was part of the KeSPA fight. Also, they're publically traded, so they couldn't secretly give NASL 400k even if they wanted to. That would be a crime, I believe. Maybe because NASL wasn't get enough fund from sponsors so Blizzard have to act in the shadow as the 'police of the esport for justice.' So yes this is their method of keeping the scene up afloat. And no it wouldn't a crime because it could be as simple as writting a check to someone without exposing to everyone, that is completely legal.
Stop with the conspiracy theories. Blizzard didn't give NASL 400k.
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On May 16 2012 11:51 Primadog wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 07:27 Xiphos wrote:On May 15 2012 14:36 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 12:05 Xiphos wrote:On May 15 2012 11:28 Ribbon wrote:On May 15 2012 11:09 Chef wrote:
Also Ribbon, you're just wrong. Years before SC2 was in beta, when it was just random anouncements and empty promises and alpha versions at Blizzcons, they announced very clearly that they intended And it was lip service because of how much they ignored the community prior to last November or so. They wanted rush maps for casuals; no one in the competitive scene like them, and they didn't care. No they wanted to cater both audience right of from the bat. The casual and the pros. With the pros, they improved on the observing aspect with all those bar displaying progresses of the player's build and timing. For the casuals, they got rid of single building select, added Automine, smartcasting and increased the hotkey slot to god knows how big that number is. Furthermore, right after the release of SC2, tournaments are already being pressured into the mainstream with Blizzard Cup 2011. Not the mention this http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/forum/topic/2228428166 thread about Blizzard backing NASL with 400K. Its all a part of their plan. What the hell? They did no such thing, and the only evidence they did is a misreading of a one-off statement by some NASL guy? Blizz had a much smaller "eSports" budget in 2011 than in 2012, according to Rob Simpson in an interview. And if Blizz were going to back a tournament, why NASL? It's like the fifth biggest tournament in the scene, and at the time people literally thought it was a scam. When Blizzard gets involved in a tournment, they want their name all over the place; that was part of the KeSPA fight. Also, they're publically traded, so they couldn't secretly give NASL 400k even if they wanted to. That would be a crime, I believe. Maybe because NASL wasn't get enough fund from sponsors so Blizzard have to act in the shadow as the 'police of the esport for justice.' So yes this is their method of keeping the scene up afloat. And no it wouldn't a crime because it could be as simple as writting a check to someone without exposing to everyone, that is completely legal. Stop with the conspiracy theories. Blizzard didn't give NASL 400k.
"We're already sold on three seasons. The money has been budgeted and secured. There's no like, “well gosh, if season one does really well then season two will be fine.” It's completely secure for three seasons. It's all insured and backed by Blizzard, that kind of stuff. And the idea again is that we laid down the infrastructure, it grows, gets easier as we go, and then if it's a profitable venture we can continue on for four, five, six seasons and beyond."
http://www.g4tv.com/thefeed/blog/post/710588/north-american-star-league-exclusive-interview-with-geoff-incontrol-robinson/#ixzz1JX0uWdBW
you mad?
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Oh jeez. It's almost like you're pretending you know NASL better than I do.
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On May 16 2012 12:40 Primadog wrote:
Oh jeez. It's almost like you're pretending you know NASL better than I do.
Oh jeez, it's almost like you're throwing another bland statement.
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If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
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On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
:'( RIP oGs.
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On May 16 2012 10:21 reincremate wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 10:07 Ribbon wrote:On May 16 2012 09:58 reincremate wrote:
They should add 2v2 for SC2. That could actually be interesting. Not sure if troll.... They have 2v2, 3v3, 4v4, and Free-For-All, as well as an actually not very good custom games system that's getting reworked in the next patch I should have been more clear; I meant for PL. I still play SC2 2v2 sometimes but never 1v1. I honestly think 2v2 in SC2 would be more interesting to watch than 1v1 and that it has a lot more potential for strategic development than 1v1.That being said, I don't think it's anywhere near as amazing as BW and wish that they would stick to BW exclusively (which obviously won't happen). BW 2v2 in contrast was kind of lame to watch.
I don't really see the reason SC2 2v2 would be more interesting than BW 2v2. I'm vaguely aware of 2v2 SC2 stuff early on, but I think it petered out pretty fast.
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On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband
Just came back after a while to see this.
I smiled 
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On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled
Happy a team had to disband?
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On May 17 2012 01:12 Torpedo.Vegas wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled Happy a team had to disband?
Well, it does send the message that the SC2 scene needs to step up its game, maybe they'll take it seriously now...
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On May 16 2012 15:19 ffreakk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 16 2012 14:45 Ribbon wrote:
If you're a BW fan into Schadenfreude, Yellow's LoL team just killed the SC2 team oGs with oGs's sponsors ditching them for Xenics Storm and causing oGs to disband Just came back after a while to see this. I smiled
its okay to be upset because your game is dead, but that is just childish
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