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So sad...
I hope people who have enjoyed watching Broodwar as a hobby will start playing it again if it disappears from televised progaming. We could still have a vibrant amateur community of Broodwar players--Korean and non-Korean-- if people who aren't particularly interested in SC2 start playing in lieu of watching.
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On April 21 2012 03:13 OpticalShot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 03:07 Sawamura wrote:On April 21 2012 03:04 UTL_Unlimited wrote:On April 21 2012 03:03 OpticalShot wrote:On April 21 2012 03:01 UTL_Unlimited wrote:On April 21 2012 02:59 JiPrime wrote:On April 21 2012 02:57 OpticalShot wrote:
Also, for those who received my PM, please care to check out the original fomos article (link is in the OP) for the pictures or something. You know, give them some traffic... and when google chrome says it's malicious you shall proceed anyway like a boss. But the site IS malicious. The userbase down there is 4chan /b/-tier. If you know Korean, stay the fuck away from the comments section. It's disgusting as fuck. you should NEVER read Korean comments in general yo. We be mad as fucku. Go to naver ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ lol i was considering translating the comments as well because man some of those are gold i know that TL has its oddballs (which are weeded out thanks to mods and their hard work) but honestly this place is the most civilized gaming fan community ever SC2 comments are actually a LITTLE bit more tamed than the FOMOS one sometimes. Dem FOMOS ones are scary as fuck... you got me curious please translate one comment as an example I want to see how scary as fuck it can be....... On April 21 2012 03:07 Noxblood wrote:On April 21 2012 02:27 Starburst wrote:On April 21 2012 02:22 Snerren wrote:
Glad that they are switching. But won't jump on the BW players will dominate day 1 etc etc bandwagon. Seen stuff like this in many sports. Often with underwhelming results. So I reserve judgement for now. But I am damned exited to watch what happens. Agreed. Now, if only some player will discover a way to make SC2 remotely interesting to watch (other than taking a shot everytime 2 massive armies collide in the middle of the map ofc). have you watched gsl lately? it is rather less common now that is the case and as time goes by it will become even less common. LoL it doesn't matter if we watch gsl if bw pro's were to start training sc2 right now and to be playing sc2 in the later season their game play will differ from gsl and they may even come up with some weird strategy you will never think off . Top 3 comments (by user votes) 1) The only coach with similar thoughts as mine is STX Coach Kim... the saddest thing is that the young passionate progamers that dreamed of playing SC1 on stage is now forced to play a different game. 2) The subtitle about how fans hold the key is utter bullshit, it (the article) is saying no matter how SC2 turns out they're going to go with it so we should shut the fuck up and adapt. 3) So the mixed format not a strong speculation but for certain now... I'm still angry but I better prepare myself for it. Still I'd have never imagined of my eSports ending this way...
I don't see what's wrong with the comments man ... they are really understandable from a bw perspective ... So yeah thanks again opti .... I will go sleep now .
Edit : I will agree with Optical shot and say we are probably all are just some spoiled brat and we should just enjoy everything that is given to us and I will continue to support kespa and my team KT Rolster and all other bw teams who will also be transitioning to sc2 . KT Fighting !.
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On April 21 2012 03:13 mcbrite wrote:
I can't fucking wait to see some Flash matches on SC2!!! Never got the chance to see him in BW, only ever heard the stories and read of his victories!
Flash hwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaitiiiiiiiiiiiiing!!!
He played in the ODT a week ago, and PL finals not long before that. Not to mention an entire season of Proleague, and vods of every single professional game he's ever played linked on his TLPD page.
You've had the chance to watch him, and still do. You just haven't bothered.
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On April 21 2012 03:16 Sawamura wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 03:13 OpticalShot wrote:On April 21 2012 03:07 Sawamura wrote:On April 21 2012 03:04 UTL_Unlimited wrote:On April 21 2012 03:03 OpticalShot wrote:On April 21 2012 03:01 UTL_Unlimited wrote:On April 21 2012 02:59 JiPrime wrote:On April 21 2012 02:57 OpticalShot wrote:
Also, for those who received my PM, please care to check out the original fomos article (link is in the OP) for the pictures or something. You know, give them some traffic... and when google chrome says it's malicious you shall proceed anyway like a boss. But the site IS malicious. The userbase down there is 4chan /b/-tier. If you know Korean, stay the fuck away from the comments section. It's disgusting as fuck. you should NEVER read Korean comments in general yo. We be mad as fucku. Go to naver ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ lol i was considering translating the comments as well because man some of those are gold i know that TL has its oddballs (which are weeded out thanks to mods and their hard work) but honestly this place is the most civilized gaming fan community ever SC2 comments are actually a LITTLE bit more tamed than the FOMOS one sometimes. Dem FOMOS ones are scary as fuck... you got me curious please translate one comment as an example I want to see how scary as fuck it can be....... On April 21 2012 03:07 Noxblood wrote:On April 21 2012 02:27 Starburst wrote:On April 21 2012 02:22 Snerren wrote:
Glad that they are switching. But won't jump on the BW players will dominate day 1 etc etc bandwagon. Seen stuff like this in many sports. Often with underwhelming results. So I reserve judgement for now. But I am damned exited to watch what happens. Agreed. Now, if only some player will discover a way to make SC2 remotely interesting to watch (other than taking a shot everytime 2 massive armies collide in the middle of the map ofc). have you watched gsl lately? it is rather less common now that is the case and as time goes by it will become even less common. LoL it doesn't matter if we watch gsl if bw pro's were to start training sc2 right now and to be playing sc2 in the later season their game play will differ from gsl and they may even come up with some weird strategy you will never think off . Top 3 comments (by user votes) 1) The only coach with similar thoughts as mine is STX Coach Kim... the saddest thing is that the young passionate progamers that dreamed of playing SC1 on stage is now forced to play a different game. 2) The subtitle about how fans hold the key is utter bullshit, it (the article) is saying no matter how SC2 turns out they're going to go with it so we should shut the fuck up and adapt. 3) So the mixed format not a strong speculation but for certain now... I'm still angry but I better prepare myself for it. Still I'd have never imagined of my eSports ending this way... I don't see what's wrong with the comments man ... they are really understandable from a bw perspective ... So yeah thanks again opti .... I will go sleep now .
lol yeah those 3 aren't actually bad, I'm surprised
go check the previous page for the ones UTL_Unlimited picked out.
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im just happy this is happening right now. I just hope the bw pros see the beauty and possibilities in starcraft 2 instead of just labeling it as an easy and boring game :/
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On April 21 2012 03:18 OpticalShot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 03:16 Sawamura wrote:On April 21 2012 03:13 OpticalShot wrote:On April 21 2012 03:07 Sawamura wrote:On April 21 2012 03:04 UTL_Unlimited wrote:On April 21 2012 03:03 OpticalShot wrote:On April 21 2012 03:01 UTL_Unlimited wrote:On April 21 2012 02:59 JiPrime wrote:On April 21 2012 02:57 OpticalShot wrote:
Also, for those who received my PM, please care to check out the original fomos article (link is in the OP) for the pictures or something. You know, give them some traffic... and when google chrome says it's malicious you shall proceed anyway like a boss. But the site IS malicious. The userbase down there is 4chan /b/-tier. If you know Korean, stay the fuck away from the comments section. It's disgusting as fuck. you should NEVER read Korean comments in general yo. We be mad as fucku. Go to naver ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ lol i was considering translating the comments as well because man some of those are gold i know that TL has its oddballs (which are weeded out thanks to mods and their hard work) but honestly this place is the most civilized gaming fan community ever SC2 comments are actually a LITTLE bit more tamed than the FOMOS one sometimes. Dem FOMOS ones are scary as fuck... you got me curious please translate one comment as an example I want to see how scary as fuck it can be....... On April 21 2012 03:07 Noxblood wrote:On April 21 2012 02:27 Starburst wrote:On April 21 2012 02:22 Snerren wrote:
Glad that they are switching. But won't jump on the BW players will dominate day 1 etc etc bandwagon. Seen stuff like this in many sports. Often with underwhelming results. So I reserve judgement for now. But I am damned exited to watch what happens. Agreed. Now, if only some player will discover a way to make SC2 remotely interesting to watch (other than taking a shot everytime 2 massive armies collide in the middle of the map ofc). have you watched gsl lately? it is rather less common now that is the case and as time goes by it will become even less common. LoL it doesn't matter if we watch gsl if bw pro's were to start training sc2 right now and to be playing sc2 in the later season their game play will differ from gsl and they may even come up with some weird strategy you will never think off . Top 3 comments (by user votes) 1) The only coach with similar thoughts as mine is STX Coach Kim... the saddest thing is that the young passionate progamers that dreamed of playing SC1 on stage is now forced to play a different game. 2) The subtitle about how fans hold the key is utter bullshit, it (the article) is saying no matter how SC2 turns out they're going to go with it so we should shut the fuck up and adapt. 3) So the mixed format not a strong speculation but for certain now... I'm still angry but I better prepare myself for it. Still I'd have never imagined of my eSports ending this way... I don't see what's wrong with the comments man ... they are really understandable from a bw perspective ... So yeah thanks again opti .... I will go sleep now . lol yeah those 3 aren't actually bad, I'm surprised go check the previous page for the ones UTL_Unlimited picked out.
Dem top 3 are like youtube comments. VOTE THEM UP YO.
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well no matter what, you can bet your ass if there is a free stream, all of the starcraft 2 viewers will be watching OSL/proleague. You can bet your god damned arses.
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2) some coaches agree that SC2 seemed boring in comparison to BW.So when they have to force the players to play this game later on, they feel like players wouldn't be doing it for fun anymore = it actually will be forcing it.
all were say SCBW > SC2
The only good thing and its maybe the most important is that SC2 expand good on foreign country where SCBW fail :/
sad day... hope Blizzard hardly improve their game with those expansion.
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On April 21 2012 03:06 Golgotha wrote:
flash got to masters without even knowing what the units did.....this says so much. good for sc2 but bad for bw, not sure what to feel.
Marines still shoot no ? I don't really follow. There is still scv's and a barracks/factory/starport.
Flash is a smart guy, i am sure he could put 2 and 2 together.
Don't take things to litteraly.
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On April 21 2012 03:21 Grampz wrote:
well no matter what, you can bet your ass if there is a free stream, all of the starcraft 2 viewers will be watching OSL/proleague. You can bet your god damned arses.
There always is a free stream, and SC2 viewers don't tune in in large numbers.
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On April 21 2012 01:03 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 01:01 Asha` wrote:On April 21 2012 00:44 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
some key points:
ace really isn't focusing on sc2 that much.
the best player with sc2 on KT so far is apparently action
the best player with SC2 on SKT1 so far is Fantasy who switched to zerg
the coaches agreed from the players they've seen play SC2 so far, that the best is Horang2 from CJ and said he has had 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before No Fantasy, what have you done T____T If Flash switches to Protoss, I will punch a hole in my wall.
26) So KT coach says the thing about Flash. But then Samsung Coach Kim Ga Ul says that Flash apparently told her he wants to play Protoss. Then Team 8 coach made a joke about how he'll force Jaedong to play Terran so force Flash to play Zerg (TROLOLOLOL)
I pity my wall.
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Thanks OpticalShot.
THE INTERVIEW WAS BLOODY BRILLIANT. FUNNY AS HELL. NEW RESPECT FOR STX COACH. HWAITING!
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Thanks for the translation via PM, OpticalShot.
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The coaches REALLY WANTED to approach the foreign scene apparently. Like no other. But because of the strong idea that 'BW is ours and proleague is ours', the coaches couldn't approach the foreign scene. They see that the foreign community is there with the comments, team liquid, and youtube videos, but they just couldn't do anything about it. (tone of regret does exist here) They were happy that the previosu finals was done globally, but still sad that it's so late.
Well this is regretful. If during their peak, they actually were more accommodating and tried hard to export the game to foreign audience ( english cast, tours, maybe approach dreamhack or what not, cooperate with TSL) things could have been different.
Oh well...
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On April 21 2012 03:23 eviltomahawk wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 01:03 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 21 2012 01:01 Asha` wrote:On April 21 2012 00:44 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
some key points:
ace really isn't focusing on sc2 that much.
the best player with sc2 on KT so far is apparently action
the best player with SC2 on SKT1 so far is Fantasy who switched to zerg
the coaches agreed from the players they've seen play SC2 so far, that the best is Horang2 from CJ and said he has had 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before No Fantasy, what have you done T____T If Flash switches to Protoss, I will punch a hole in my wall. Show nested quote +26) So KT coach says the thing about Flash. But then Samsung Coach Kim Ga Ul says that Flash apparently told her he wants to play Protoss. Then Team 8 coach made a joke about how he'll force Jaedong to play Terran so force Flash to play Zerg (TROLOLOLOL) I pity my wall.
That didn't show up in Optical Shot's full translation, The other coaches joked about forcing him to play protoss after KT coach's comment about Flash reaching masters with ease.
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On April 21 2012 03:22 deafhobbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 03:21 Grampz wrote:
well no matter what, you can bet your ass if there is a free stream, all of the starcraft 2 viewers will be watching OSL/proleague. You can bet your god damned arses. There always is a free stream, and SC2 viewers don't tune in in large numbers.
Considering how many people tuned in to GSL Code S finals, I think you are wrong on that. That was like 240p as well. we are talking about the best of the best, and the BEST PRODUCTION VALUE now as well. There's no question it will get big, Very big. HoTS Should add fire, i hope it comes out soon... Can't stand to see LoL take over.
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On April 21 2012 03:23 ShadeR wrote:
Thanks OpticalShot.
THE INTERVIEW WAS BLOODY BRILLIANT. FUNNY AS HELL. NEW RESPECT FOR STX COACH. HWAITING!
You're welcome =)
Yeah I thought the interview was amazing, some coaches showed real personality. To be honest I used to look down on the STX coach because their team lacks personality and usually loses (sorry STX fans) but after this interview I see that he's a great man with great insight and passion for eSports. I honestly can't be hating on SC2 or LoL or whatever that isn't BW, I think I'll support whatever they decide to go with.
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On April 21 2012 03:23 ShadeR wrote:
Thanks OpticalShot.
THE INTERVIEW WAS BLOODY BRILLIANT. FUNNY AS HELL. NEW RESPECT FOR STX COACH. HWAITING!
Yes I felt the most connection with Stx coach .... They really speak what I wanted hear as a bw fan . I mean just think about the possibility when bw was it's peak and kespa actually had grand finals all over the world ... Bw would have been spread globally man . But I am just playing it to my fantasy . Whatever the circumstances it is I want kespa to succeed over gom .
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i feel like im about to cry, i still have hopes, but this just hitted me hard, im not going to work today, i feel like i need a long beach walk
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On April 21 2012 03:26 deafhobbit wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 03:23 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 21 2012 01:03 eviltomahawk wrote:On April 21 2012 01:01 Asha` wrote:On April 21 2012 00:44 1sz2sz3sz wrote:
some key points:
ace really isn't focusing on sc2 that much.
the best player with sc2 on KT so far is apparently action
the best player with SC2 on SKT1 so far is Fantasy who switched to zerg
the coaches agreed from the players they've seen play SC2 so far, that the best is Horang2 from CJ and said he has had 90% winrate in Korean Grandmaster before No Fantasy, what have you done T____T If Flash switches to Protoss, I will punch a hole in my wall. 26) So KT coach says the thing about Flash. But then Samsung Coach Kim Ga Ul says that Flash apparently told her he wants to play Protoss. Then Team 8 coach made a joke about how he'll force Jaedong to play Terran so force Flash to play Zerg (TROLOLOLOL) I pity my wall. That didn't show up in Optical Shot's full translation, The other coaches joked about forcing him to play protoss after KT coach's comment about Flash reaching masters with ease.
Ah, ok.
My wall will live to see another day.
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