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Thurokiir
Profile Joined June 2010
United States779 Posts
March 29 2012 20:37 GMT
#181
People that are buying are likely requesting that their names not be listed. Lot of stigma to be had.
Tahts halo dont worry
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 29 2012 20:38 GMT
#182
Who gives a shit at this point? It's been so long since all that went down and by now what Savior does with BW on his own time doesn't really have any impact on anything because he is so utterly removed from the professional scene. Let him do what he wants to do.
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
March 29 2012 20:39 GMT
#183
This rat deserves to burn in hell instead of making money off naive people.
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
March 29 2012 20:40 GMT
#184
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.



Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D
iSometric
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
2221 Posts
March 29 2012 20:42 GMT
#185
Not a lot compared to the 50+ dollars of some SC2 players. I guess if you can communicate, it is a good deal.
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koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
March 29 2012 20:43 GMT
#186
On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.



Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D

Can you please shut up.
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
March 29 2012 20:44 GMT
#187
On March 30 2012 05:43 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.



Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D

Can you please shut up.

bisu fan ?
Weird
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States832 Posts
March 29 2012 20:45 GMT
#188
On March 30 2012 05:43 koreasilver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.



Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D

Can you please shut up.


Agreed, with as many posts as you have it's head scratching to see garbage like this.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5582 Posts
March 29 2012 20:50 GMT
#189
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.


Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

One time I told my mother I was going to study the classics, but I studied math instead. It's his life, haven't you ever changed your mind before?
On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.



Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D

I don't think people were fixing matches in 2007, didn't web betting of games take off a bit later? Besides, the prize money for a final is a LOT. The financial justification for fixing matches is that you can make more off the ones that don't matter. Not the damn sets that determine whether you get a tens of thousands of dollars prize. Bisu simply won that day.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
gosuzombie
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada28 Posts
March 29 2012 20:51 GMT
#190
part of me thinks that he'll be teaching his students how to match fix...

otherwise i believe in second chances
14fighter
Profile Blog Joined January 2012
United States226 Posts
March 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#191
Well, he invested a crucial period of his life into BW, its all he knows now bascially. I don't see how this is a problem for KESPA or the BW scene.... He's not participating in the events. Maybe he didn't understand the seriousness of what he was doing. Anyways, @ people telling him to stop making money off BW? Thats what Pros do.... make money off a video game. Even people in like diamond and masters sell coaching lessons in starcraft 2, I saw it in halo too. People that were 50's would sell lessons....
[sc1f]eonzerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Belgium6579 Posts
March 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#192
On March 30 2012 05:50 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.


Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

One time I told my mother I was going to study the classics, but I studied math instead. It's his life, haven't you ever changed your mind before?
Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:
Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this

I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever.


He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone.

All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story.

Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love.



Let me rephrase what happened:

Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel)

few months later:

Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.

ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D

I don't think people were fixing matches in 2007, didn't web betting of games take off a bit later? Besides, the prize money for a final is a LOT. The financial justification for fixing matches is that you can make more off the ones that don't matter. Not the damn sets that determine whether you get a tens of thousands of dollars prize. Bisu simply won that day.

The new guy vs the 3 msl winner. u joking ? ( i said this before for joke. but thiinking about this. this have alot of sense. savior proly win more money than bisu the winner of the starleague -_-
Thorin
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
601 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-03-29 20:54:24
March 29 2012 20:53 GMT
#193
Even thought people are gonna inevitably go way overboard and complain about the match fixing/killing esports type stuff I think this is an awesome offer and anyone who plays Zerg, can speak Korean and loves BW would be a fool not to take this offer up imo. If I spoke Korean I'd probably drop $200 on this.

On March 30 2012 03:36 1Eris1 wrote:
The fact that people would actually pay for lessons with this guy...Its basically giving brood war a giant middle finger to the face.


On March 30 2012 04:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Why cant he just go away tt


I do find it kind of disturbing the people who make out like if you still like savior, watch him play or would consider these lessons then you're somehow a terrible human who is telling all BW players you want the game to die and be disgraced forever more. Keep your hormones in check please guys, life isn't that black and white.

If you don't like savior and you're not interested in anything he's done since the match-fixing then great, have at it. Can the rest of us do what we like tho? Thanks.
PassiveAce
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States18076 Posts
March 29 2012 20:56 GMT
#194
The funniest part of this is the price, remember when idra charged in the hundreds per hour? lol.
Call me Marge Simpson cuz I love you homie
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
March 29 2012 21:09 GMT
#195
Not this again.

Apparently some people have different moral norms than yours. Amazing I know. Is a discussion about what Savior "should" do because we think that it would be nicer that way really worthwhile? He has proven multiple times to be quite the shameless guy. And that's OK, he can't help it if he doesn't care and it is not my/anyone's business anyway. Ultimately that is the price we pay for living in free societies (well most of us, I think): as long as it is legal dicks have absolute freedom to maintain their dick ways and there is fuck all that can be done about it.

On topic: Surprised how dirt cheap the lessons are. I doubt he will have trouble finding customers.
Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
March 29 2012 21:12 GMT
#196
I really wish Savior would just move on from anything BW related, but I guess it's within his rights. You would never see me pay a penny to that bastard though.
Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta.
dRaW
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
Canada5744 Posts
March 29 2012 21:13 GMT
#197
he should do it for free, the kid was match fixing, this is quite poor from him.
I don't need luck, luck is for noobs, good luck to you though
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
March 29 2012 21:14 GMT
#198
That's a really good price considering the quality of the coach and comparing it to prices by other players. This guy was a fucking bonjwa. Hell, some people would have given $35 for his signature probably.

IMO, perma-ban way too harsh.
(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻
1Eris1
Profile Joined September 2010
United States5797 Posts
March 29 2012 21:16 GMT
#199
On March 30 2012 05:53 Thorin wrote:
Even thought people are gonna inevitably go way overboard and complain about the match fixing/killing esports type stuff I think this is an awesome offer and anyone who plays Zerg, can speak Korean and loves BW would be a fool not to take this offer up imo. If I spoke Korean I'd probably drop $200 on this.

Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 03:36 1Eris1 wrote:
The fact that people would actually pay for lessons with this guy...Its basically giving brood war a giant middle finger to the face.


Show nested quote +
On March 30 2012 04:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Why cant he just go away tt


I do find it kind of disturbing the people who make out like if you still like savior, watch him play or would consider these lessons then you're somehow a terrible human who is telling all BW players you want the game to die and be disgraced forever more. Keep your hormones in check please guys, life isn't that black and white.

If you don't like savior and you're not interested in anything he's done since the match-fixing then great, have at it. Can the rest of us do what we like tho? Thanks.



Seriously dude? BW is dying right now and Savior is arguably the single greatest reason as to why. He's a scumbag who wanted to make more money (even well he was already making hundreds of thousands) and had no problems screwing over his teammates, team, fans, etc in the process. There's nothing "grey" about that.
I have no problems watching Savior play; shit I still watch his VODs from time to time because he's the greatest fucking zerg of all time, but I honestly can't fathom how a BW fan would want to support this guy.
Known Aliases: Tyragon, Valeric ~MSL Forever, SKT is truly the Superior KT!
MattBarry
Profile Joined March 2011
United States4006 Posts
March 29 2012 21:18 GMT
#200
I wonder if Kespa will ban anyone who receives lessons if one of them ever chooses to go pro.
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