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People that are buying are likely requesting that their names not be listed. Lot of stigma to be had.
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Who gives a shit at this point? It's been so long since all that went down and by now what Savior does with BW on his own time doesn't really have any impact on anything because he is so utterly removed from the professional scene. Let him do what he wants to do.
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This rat deserves to burn in hell instead of making money off naive people.
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On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this  I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.
ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D
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Not a lot compared to the 50+ dollars of some SC2 players. I guess if you can communicate, it is a good deal.
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On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons. ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D
Can you please shut up.
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On March 30 2012 05:43 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons. ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D Can you please shut up.
bisu fan ?
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On March 30 2012 05:43 koreasilver wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons. ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D Can you please shut up.
Agreed, with as many posts as you have it's head scratching to see garbage like this.
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On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons.
One time I told my mother I was going to study the classics, but I studied math instead. It's his life, haven't you ever changed your mind before?
On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons. ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D
I don't think people were fixing matches in 2007, didn't web betting of games take off a bit later? Besides, the prize money for a final is a LOT. The financial justification for fixing matches is that you can make more off the ones that don't matter. Not the damn sets that determine whether you get a tens of thousands of dollars prize. Bisu simply won that day.
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part of me thinks that he'll be teaching his students how to match fix...
otherwise i believe in second chances
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Well, he invested a crucial period of his life into BW, its all he knows now bascially. I don't see how this is a problem for KESPA or the BW scene.... He's not participating in the events. Maybe he didn't understand the seriousness of what he was doing. Anyways, @ people telling him to stop making money off BW? Thats what Pros do.... make money off a video game. Even people in like diamond and masters sell coaching lessons in starcraft 2, I saw it in halo too. People that were 50's would sell lessons....
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On March 30 2012 05:50 oBlade wrote:Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons. One time I told my mother I was going to study the classics, but I studied math instead. It's his life, haven't you ever changed your mind before? Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 05:40 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:On March 30 2012 05:36 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 05:03 r33k wrote:On March 30 2012 04:48 supernovamaniac wrote:On March 30 2012 04:45 [sc1f]eonzerg wrote:Ok nerds. stop said savior killed the bw scene. The entire world is in crisis. and korea is not the exception. Mbc move to kpop cuz they can win much more... u are just nerds .i saw many football players sell games. and football is still the best thing in the world. ofc not many nerds know about this I still don't know if you're not informed or if you're trying to run away from the truth. Even after all these months after I presented some evidence as well as adieu MBC translations, I'm forced to believe that you're just trying to force yourself to believe that savior didn't play any role whatsoever. He created, he destroyed. Big deal? Depends on what you mean by that. He took a dying esports and brought it to life again. Remember the sync OSL and the era of oov? The games were a fucking pain to watch and the players had a much different impact on the public eye. The figure of the superstar progamer that kind of came about with Xellos became reality with Savior and thanks to him alone. All the evidence you quoted about him being an evil person with no regrets is sensationalist press coming from korean fox news. Bifrost had a bigger impact than him and called himself a progamer too on the first appeal. I don't give a fuck what title you call yourself, except that those words were said in a court of justice where the players had to state the evidence and their side of the story. It was their full right to do so, and furthermore it was their duty. They were processed as progamers and that should have been the end of the story. Kespa legislation ended when they brought the players into the process, anything else is just the good old bandwagon shaming that koreans love. Let me rephrase what happened: Savior: I'm quitting BW to start studying, and I'm going to go study abroad (from his very own afreeca channel) few months later: Savior: I'm giving out BW lessons. ok u mad cuz savior give free win to bisu in the msl final fake win bro so sad :D I don't think people were fixing matches in 2007, didn't web betting of games take off a bit later? Besides, the prize money for a final is a LOT. The financial justification for fixing matches is that you can make more off the ones that don't matter. Not the damn sets that determine whether you get a tens of thousands of dollars prize. Bisu simply won that day.
The new guy vs the 3 msl winner. u joking ? ( i said this before for joke. but thiinking about this. this have alot of sense. savior proly win more money than bisu the winner of the starleague -_-
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Even thought people are gonna inevitably go way overboard and complain about the match fixing/killing esports type stuff I think this is an awesome offer and anyone who plays Zerg, can speak Korean and loves BW would be a fool not to take this offer up imo. If I spoke Korean I'd probably drop $200 on this.
On March 30 2012 03:36 1Eris1 wrote:
The fact that people would actually pay for lessons with this guy...Its basically giving brood war a giant middle finger to the face.
On March 30 2012 04:22 Kleinmuuhg wrote:
Why cant he just go away tt
I do find it kind of disturbing the people who make out like if you still like savior, watch him play or would consider these lessons then you're somehow a terrible human who is telling all BW players you want the game to die and be disgraced forever more. Keep your hormones in check please guys, life isn't that black and white.
If you don't like savior and you're not interested in anything he's done since the match-fixing then great, have at it. Can the rest of us do what we like tho? Thanks.
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The funniest part of this is the price, remember when idra charged in the hundreds per hour? lol.
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Not this again.
Apparently some people have different moral norms than yours. Amazing I know. Is a discussion about what Savior "should" do because we think that it would be nicer that way really worthwhile? He has proven multiple times to be quite the shameless guy. And that's OK, he can't help it if he doesn't care and it is not my/anyone's business anyway. Ultimately that is the price we pay for living in free societies (well most of us, I think): as long as it is legal dicks have absolute freedom to maintain their dick ways and there is fuck all that can be done about it.
On topic: Surprised how dirt cheap the lessons are. I doubt he will have trouble finding customers.
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I really wish Savior would just move on from anything BW related, but I guess it's within his rights. You would never see me pay a penny to that bastard though.
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he should do it for free, the kid was match fixing, this is quite poor from him.
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That's a really good price considering the quality of the coach and comparing it to prices by other players. This guy was a fucking bonjwa. Hell, some people would have given $35 for his signature probably.
IMO, perma-ban way too harsh. 
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On March 30 2012 05:53 Thorin wrote:Even thought people are gonna inevitably go way overboard and complain about the match fixing/killing esports type stuff I think this is an awesome offer and anyone who plays Zerg, can speak Korean and loves BW would be a fool not to take this offer up imo. If I spoke Korean I'd probably drop $200 on this. Show nested quote +On March 30 2012 03:36 1Eris1 wrote:
The fact that people would actually pay for lessons with this guy...Its basically giving brood war a giant middle finger to the face. I do find it kind of disturbing the people who make out like if you still like savior, watch him play or would consider these lessons then you're somehow a terrible human who is telling all BW players you want the game to die and be disgraced forever more. Keep your hormones in check please guys, life isn't that black and white.If you don't like savior and you're not interested in anything he's done since the match-fixing then great, have at it. Can the rest of us do what we like tho? Thanks.
Seriously dude? BW is dying right now and Savior is arguably the single greatest reason as to why. He's a scumbag who wanted to make more money (even well he was already making hundreds of thousands) and had no problems screwing over his teammates, team, fans, etc in the process. There's nothing "grey" about that.
I have no problems watching Savior play; shit I still watch his VODs from time to time because he's the greatest fucking zerg of all time, but I honestly can't fathom how a BW fan would want to support this guy.
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I wonder if Kespa will ban anyone who receives lessons if one of them ever chooses to go pro.
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