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MountainDewJunkie
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States10346 Posts
April 09 2012 03:20 GMT
#1481
GSTL was NOT epic, hell no, but that has little to do with SC2 itself, it was the misfortune of the disconnect that ruined a lot of it. In the same breath, NATE MSL finals were ruined, even though game 3 was probably one the best ZvTs I've ever seen. Sometimes you just real, real unlucky.

Well, those PL finals were so incredible I almost feel at peace about a lot of these coming problems, except for my earlier-stated concerns about the upcoming OSL fairness.

Now we sit and wait.
[21:07] <Shock710> whats wrong with her face [20:50] <dAPhREAk> i beat it the day after it came out | <BLinD-RawR> esports is a giant vagina
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
April 09 2012 04:09 GMT
#1482
Ugh BW is not dying it was killed =="
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
April 09 2012 04:28 GMT
#1483
On April 09 2012 07:33 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 13:06 Lawliet wrote:
There is a international scene for SC2 and none for BW. It's really as simple as that.

Globalization is the future. BW has stagnated and the fanbase/money is drying out.

Don't get me wrong. BW is my first love and she will never be forgotten. But it's time to move on guys. SC2 might seem like feeble substitute but in good time balance will come. There's still two expansions and a buttload of patches in the works.

Honestly. Wouldn't you rather see the Jaedong, Bish or Flash slaying nerds all over the world with personal sponsorship or spearheading their own teams in SC2 rather than have them retire and go do their military service?



What the fuck? No. Watching them play SC2 would break my heart.

Also, people need to stop using the phrase "support e-sports and expand SC2" as if it's an argument. Fuck e-sports. We want to watch people play games, and by games, I mean good games that we've loved for a decade.

People have different opinions, and I'm all fine with people saying that they can enjoy SC2. But seriously, stop coming in here and saying "but if they switch, SC2 will grow." That's inciting dumb flamebait, you know it, and a lot of people here don't even bother with SC2.


I like you.
Brood War is alive and well.
Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 04:36:43
April 09 2012 04:30 GMT
#1484
On April 08 2012 22:42 Figgy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2012 22:31 mburke05 wrote:
On April 08 2012 22:17 Figgy wrote:
On April 08 2012 21:19 Dental Floss wrote:
Even SC2 fans don't like SC2. Can you imagine a thread like this in the BW forum?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=327337


Yes. But they all died 3 years ago. If threads like that didn't exist BW would still be strong as ever.

You get tons of them nowadays but they are in the "How do I actually get interested in BW" type post.


lol what.

you joined this forum in 2011 how could you possibly know any of that?


Logic? If not a single person no longer found BW interesting anymore than BW wouldn't be dying. Simple enough?


Actually, no. The issue isn't that fans left (BW's fanbase isn't as big as it was in Savior's day, but it's still plenty big), it's that the scene was 100% dependant on sponsorship money, so once a scandal came along, all the sponsorship money started drying up, and the fans don't actually support the game directly, so gg.

Honestly, this was always going to happen, as a result of the sponsorship business model. Even if Savior didn't fix matches, someone would have eventually robbed a liquor store or molested a kid or wrote a tell-all expose about team house conditions that wouldn't even half to be true. BW lived and died on it's image, and it couldn't maintain that image forever with so many young people having the power to do something stupid.

Once the fans reacted negatively to the horrible thought of maybe paying for BW, the scene was doomed. It had zero ability to deal with a bad time.
sToFu
Profile Joined August 2011
United States189 Posts
April 09 2012 04:43 GMT
#1485
Fuck I would rather see them even play LoL than SC2. T.T
TheTrueNok
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium34 Posts
April 09 2012 05:20 GMT
#1486
On April 09 2012 13:43 sToFu wrote:
Fuck I would rather see them even play LoL than SC2. T.T

Says a lot about you.
TheButtonmen
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada1403 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 05:29:26
April 09 2012 05:28 GMT
#1487
On April 09 2012 11:47 Release wrote:
Keep LAN with LAN and
Keep Disconnects with Disconnects.


Lan wouldn't have helped a dead computer.

On April 09 2012 13:43 sToFu wrote:
Fuck I would rather see them even play LoL than SC2. T.T


Seriously?

I mean I can get that you like BW more then SC2 but don't cut off the nose to spite the face here.
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
April 09 2012 05:42 GMT
#1488
On April 09 2012 14:28 TheButtonmen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 11:47 Release wrote:
Keep LAN with LAN and
Keep Disconnects with Disconnects.


Lan wouldn't have helped a dead computer.

Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:43 sToFu wrote:
Fuck I would rather see them even play LoL than SC2. T.T


Seriously?

I mean I can get that you like BW more then SC2 but don't cut off the nose to spite the face here.

Hey man not cool, whats wrong with LoL? This fan is just more excited about LoL, afterall that is where all the money is at.
LoL is the greatest thing to happen to ESPORS. LoL is the KING of ESPORTS
Bisu-Fan
Profile Joined January 2010
Russian Federation3339 Posts
April 09 2012 06:04 GMT
#1489
On April 09 2012 07:49 bearbuddy wrote:
Guys. Sc2 is more popular. We obviously need to transition into the more popular game. The big wigs for NHL understand this concept:



You scared me big time until I saw your video. I can accept people liking SC2 better than BW because of the graphics and the easier game and whatever reasons they bring forth, but please don't say that the game itself is better and that we NEED to transition to SC2. Like some other said... Many of us love BW more than we love eSports... They just happened to be synonymous at a time. But when eSports progressed, our loyalties just lay with BW, and we continued to love BW, as I don't doubt many of us will for a long time still. I've only done the campaign and maybe like 30 games online on SC2, so I can't input much on SC2, but saying that the logical thing is to switch is just wrong.
The Revolutionist Shall Rise Again! No. 1 Kim Taek Yong Fan 어헣↗ GO JAEDONG!!!!!!! GO ACE!!! 태연 <3 윤아 <3 승연 <3
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
April 09 2012 06:14 GMT
#1490
On April 09 2012 14:20 TheTrueNok wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 13:43 sToFu wrote:
Fuck I would rather see them even play LoL than SC2. T.T

Says a lot about you.

That he likes LoL? Or what does it say about him?
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Meta
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States6228 Posts
April 09 2012 06:55 GMT
#1491
My two cents: I gave sc2 two years, both playing and following the pro scene heavily. But it's just not as good as BW, to watch or to play. If you're an sc2 fan but not a bw fan, good for you. I want sc2 to succeed too. But if/when you jump on the next bandwagon game, I'll still be following BW, like I have been for 10 years and like I will be until it's forcibly killed from factors beyond the control of the community or the players.
good vibes only
Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5600 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:39:53
April 09 2012 07:37 GMT
#1492
I never pay for entertainment on-line. Never ever, I am almost ideologically against it lol, but I would easily put aside 50-100 dollars per month (from my really strained student budget) in order to donate that to KeSPA or OGN or the teams for their good work. I love watching sports, I really like basketball, football, chess, even Starcraft 2, but Brood war is special for me. When I watched the finals yesterday I felt just how strong my bond to this game is.

So I'd much rather see that they implemented a paying function (if that is possible with Blizzard backing up SC2...) than having a split PL with less and lower quality Brood war.
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
shaftofpleasure
Profile Blog Joined December 2011
Korea (North)1375 Posts
April 09 2012 07:43 GMT
#1493
I found it funny how SC2 fan feels about BW pros playing LoL instead of SC2. I think they're feeling that thing we felt when SC2 was trying to enter the scene steal our pros.

Fuck Blizzard
It's either the holes of my nose are getting smaller or my fingers are getting bigger. /// Always Rooting for the Underdog. Hyuk/Sin/Jaehoon/Juni/Hyvva/Hoejja/Canata //// Hiding in thread somewhere where BW is still in it's pure form here on TL.
TrainSamurai
Profile Joined November 2010
339 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-09 07:56:28
April 09 2012 07:55 GMT
#1494
On April 09 2012 16:43 shaftofpleasure wrote:
I found it funny how SC2 fan feels about BW pros playing LoL instead of SC2. I think they're feeling that thing we felt when SC2 was trying to enter the scene steal our pros.

Fuck Blizzard


I don't think so. BW fans are disappointed with the game and don't like it being shoved down our throats. SC2 fans hate LoL because it is competing for the title of ESPORTS king (which by the way it is).

Disappointment and hatred are very different things!
LoL is the greatest thing to happen to ESPORS. LoL is the KING of ESPORTS
TheTrueNok
Profile Joined November 2011
Belgium34 Posts
April 09 2012 08:14 GMT
#1495
On April 09 2012 15:14 mustaju wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 09 2012 14:20 TheTrueNok wrote:
On April 09 2012 13:43 sToFu wrote:
Fuck I would rather see them even play LoL than SC2. T.T

Says a lot about you.

That he likes LoL? Or what does it say about him?

Yeah indeed. If BW fans don't like SC2 because it doesn't take as much (or as you guys like to say it, any) skill, I'm amazed one can like LoL.
PredY
Profile Joined September 2009
Czech Republic1731 Posts
April 09 2012 08:17 GMT
#1496
so are there any updates on this? i'm not gonna go through this thread full of shitty arguments about which game is better.
http://www.twitch.tv/czelpredy
how2TL
Profile Joined August 2010
1197 Posts
April 09 2012 08:20 GMT
#1497
I'd rather this past finals to be last BW proleague than the second or third-last proleague.

The way it played out was a fucking movie script.
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
April 09 2012 08:22 GMT
#1498
so it will become set1 bw set2 sc2 set3 bw set4 sc2...
do i get it wrong?

if sc2 is that good, just open another league for it, please dont lessen bw time.
bw isnt afraid of a head to head fight to its sequel.
SC forever!
stevewch
Profile Joined February 2006
Hong Kong216 Posts
April 09 2012 08:23 GMT
#1499
On April 09 2012 17:17 PredY wrote:
so are there any updates on this? i'm not gonna go through this thread full of shitty arguments about which game is better.


yeah, i agree, please keep updating the OP if anyone got any confirm news.
SC forever!
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
April 09 2012 08:24 GMT
#1500
On April 09 2012 17:22 stevewch wrote:if sc2 is that good, just open another league for it, please dont lessen bw time.
bw isnt afraid of a head to head fight to its sequel.

Yeah, that'd be the best solution in my mind. Not forcing everyone to watch both.
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