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On February 29 2012 05:32 firehand101 wrote:
I have recent been in a position like yours...i am 0-18, but i will get my first win one day!
That will be the day our paths cross, lol.
@OP I went through the same. It's easy to get discouraged if you expect something the game can't give you. When you change your view of the game and accept it as it is, you can profit from playing more than you could ever imagine while having tons of fun. I came back after a while and now I know for sure I'm never leaving again.
It's The Boy And His Game all over again.
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Canada11607 Posts
On February 28 2012 17:23 AyameStarcraft wrote:
I'm leaning on the edge of not playing this.
I have a sudden newfound respect for professional players of this game but this game is really hard. I guess I'm going to be bucking the trend here but I just find myself discouraged and unwilling to play. I'll think about it over night.
Well that would be too bad. I saw you play on your stream a little bit. The way you hop back and forth between your buildings, you're significantly faster than me so I think you should be able to get some wins. Maybe it's a familiarity thing, maybe another race would be better. And maybe you might want to take a break from ladder and try some fun ums or whatever. Find the fun in BW , because the drive to improve will kick in anways.
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This is kind of off-topic but since I'm new to the scene will this team league (spl) be the very last live sc BW event in korea? I'm sure there will still be online tourneys here and there but I have been enjoying this team league to a great extent. Much more then I personally get from most sc2. I don't want it to end when I'm just getting started 
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We don't really know.
Everyone hopes for more SPL seasons and we look forward to the next OSL, but nothing is sure unfortunately.
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Try going mech in TvZ. Imo, at lower levels, TvZ mech is THE easiest matchup to play, even easier than PvT is (which I think most people would argue at D level is easiest, it's definitely the first MU I learned).
ZvT so much fun though with lurker/ling flanks  .
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Norway28912 Posts
when I played you yesterday I thought your macro was way better than expected. your builds were solid and your timings were good and you seemed like someone who would improve fast. but you gotta realize that the skill ceiling is much, much higher than in sc2,because of the constant babysitting your units demand of you. some of us have played this game and honed our abilities to understand how to actually make our units behave in a way that reflects how we actually want them to act for thousands of hours, you can't expect to be the bw equivalent of platinum-master without at least putting in several hundred. 
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I'd love to follow BW more and maybe play some. But I'm finding the language barrier really difficult. All VoDs I get my hands on are casted in Korean. Does anyone know of anyone that does English casts of pro games? Thanks.
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On February 29 2012 10:21 Noro wrote:
I'd love to follow BW more and maybe play some. But I'm finding the language barrier really difficult. All VoDs I get my hands on are casted in Korean. Does anyone know of anyone that does English casts of pro games? Thanks.
Look for Day[9] dailies of BW
TSL2 vods
Tastosis casts of BW on WCG. (Jaedong FPVods, etc)
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You mention all of those and you don't even mention Sayle's reboardcasts of every SPL let alone all the English casted tournaments?
It's really not hard to find English casts on these forums man. All you have to do is look and they're right there. -_-
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Sorry for hijacking your thread but:
Got the game setup and ready to go on ICCup just now. If anyone wants to play let me know. I've never really played before and would like to give it a shot (and it runs a lot better on my computer than SC2 does!). I just need to pick a race and look at some strats / vods. I do have a question though: Is BroodWar AI recommended? Seeing as I might not find a lot of people to play against, I'm thinking this might be the way to go for now.
Thoughts? ICCup name: Steeveholt
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On February 29 2012 10:40 sluggaslamoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 10:21 Noro wrote:
I'd love to follow BW more and maybe play some. But I'm finding the language barrier really difficult. All VoDs I get my hands on are casted in Korean. Does anyone know of anyone that does English casts of pro games? Thanks. Look for Day[9] dailies of BW TSL2 vods Tastosis casts of BW on WCG. (Jaedong FPVods, etc)
Thanks =]
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On February 29 2012 09:36 Liquid`Drone wrote:when I played you yesterday I thought your macro was way better than expected. your builds were solid and your timings were good and you seemed like someone who would improve fast. but you gotta realize that the skill ceiling is much, much higher than in sc2,because of the constant babysitting your units demand of you. some of us have played this game and honed our abilities to understand how to actually make our units behave in a way that reflects how we actually want them to act for thousands of hours, you can't expect to be the bw equivalent of platinum-master without at least putting in several hundred.
Wow encouragement from Liquid`Drone :o You pretty much have to play now.
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On February 29 2012 11:02 Steeveholt wrote:Sorry for hijacking your thread but: Got the game setup and ready to go on ICCup just now. If anyone wants to play let me know. I've never really played before and would like to give it a shot (and it runs a lot better on my computer than SC2 does!). I just need to pick a race and look at some strats / vods. I do have a question though: Is BroodWar AI recommended? Seeing as I might not find a lot of people to play against, I'm thinking this might be the way to go for now. Thoughts? ICCup name: Steeveholt
Play pro toss, its not even a question.
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On February 29 2012 10:45 StarStruck wrote:
..,.
You mention all of those and you don't even mention Sayle's reboardcasts of every SPL let alone all the English casted tournaments?
It's really not hard to find English casts on these forums man. All you have to do is look and they're right there. -_-
Oh yeah f***! lol, definitely Sayles stream. Theres also psyonic_reaver casting DRTL haha.
On February 29 2012 11:02 Steeveholt wrote:Sorry for hijacking your thread but: Got the game setup and ready to go on ICCup just now. If anyone wants to play let me know. I've never really played before and would like to give it a shot (and it runs a lot better on my computer than SC2 does!). I just need to pick a race and look at some strats / vods. I do have a question though: Is BroodWar AI recommended? Seeing as I might not find a lot of people to play against, I'm thinking this might be the way to go for now. Thoughts? ICCup name: Steeveholt
I'm happy to practise with you but I seem to have a really bad record of getting newbies to continue playing starcraft
No idea why, I try and go easy and go for long games (e.g play standard, never attack, go for split map, minimal defenses [ok i habitually mine/wall the map and make a million turrets but hey]), try not to say too much but help them more than I would even in my own clan when they ask questions and stuff, and they just quit the next day, I don't know what I'm doing wrong
That said if you want to have a game or 20 games add me Slugger[wOk] and I'm happy to practise with you as many times as you like and answer any of your questions.
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does anybody know how to change the hotkeys? like for f1 to save my camera screen etc?
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On February 29 2012 13:08 Plutonik wrote:
does anybody know how to change the hotkeys? like for f1 to save my camera screen etc?
You can't rebind hotkeys unfortunately, f1 will forever be the game tips screen.
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daaaam thanks anyways
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On February 29 2012 12:34 sluggaslamoo wrote:Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 10:45 StarStruck wrote:
..,.
You mention all of those and you don't even mention Sayle's reboardcasts of every SPL let alone all the English casted tournaments?
It's really not hard to find English casts on these forums man. All you have to do is look and they're right there. -_- Oh yeah f***! lol, definitely Sayles stream. Theres also psyonic_reaver casting DRTL haha. Show nested quote +On February 29 2012 11:02 Steeveholt wrote:Sorry for hijacking your thread but: Got the game setup and ready to go on ICCup just now. If anyone wants to play let me know. I've never really played before and would like to give it a shot (and it runs a lot better on my computer than SC2 does!). I just need to pick a race and look at some strats / vods. I do have a question though: Is BroodWar AI recommended? Seeing as I might not find a lot of people to play against, I'm thinking this might be the way to go for now. Thoughts? ICCup name: Steeveholt I'm happy to practise with you but I seem to have a really bad record of getting newbies to continue playing starcraft No idea why, I try and go easy and go for long games (e.g play standard, never attack, go for split map, minimal defenses [ok i habitually mine/wall the map and make a million turrets but hey]), try not to say too much but help them more than I would even in my own clan when they ask questions and stuff, and they just quit the next day, I don't know what I'm doing wrong That said if you want to have a game or 20 games add me Slugger[wOk] and I'm happy to practise with you as many times as you like and answer any of your questions.
Added you! Been reading Liquipedia but could definitely use some of your time whenever you feel like it! Coming from the really "controlled" and organized BNet 2.0 (however flawed it may be) makes ICCup a bit of a challenge of its own on top of learning the game as well. So many maps... and not being able to see them at all unless you scout makes knowing where to expand a real pain in the ass! I'll be online, my username is Steeveholt.
Thanks!
oh and funny how you mention psyonic_reaver as I obs'd one of his game an hour ago, and had a chat with someone from your clan (I'm assuming as he also had [wOk] in his name). Small community!
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This is why the top players in BW are so dominant, and why Flash is pretty much God. Skill is so much more important than luck in BW.
Yeah, you can learn how to micro everything, but dud scarab forever though. So many games that I could've (and I feel I should've) won easily, but noooo dud scarabs... still remember that one game where I could've killed 22 workers with a single scarab but it dudded. T_T
I am quite bitter about dud scarabs as you can see. The one thing that makes toss annoying imo.
Playing micro games and such are a lot more useful in BW than in SC2 too.
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Guys, I hate you all.
Im gonna start playing again.
Btw: Any suggestions how to set control groups? I have quite bad habbit (bad for BW) of setting hatcheries on 1-5 keys (and using f1-f4 for army) in sc2. Ideas how to make me "transition out" of this situation?
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