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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
So I thought you guys might be interested to know that SC2 commentator HD Starcraft got a hold of the replay, and casted it. I don't know, thought you'd like it. The commentary's aimed at introducing BW to SC2 fans, so it's maybe not the highest level, but it's still kind of neat. | ||
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Iplaythings
Denmark9110 Posts
It was disappointing to see 2 things 1: Huk got completely owned (tried 2base vs 2base) 2:Made me miss boxer playing BW  | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
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blubbdavid
Switzerland2412 Posts
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DKR
United Kingdom622 Posts
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2Pacalypse-
Croatia9505 Posts
Besides that, there were also a few blunders in HD Starcraft's cast (like saying you couldn't OBS games in BW and had to be a Terran player and lift your c&c to obs), but all is forgiven because seeing such a popular figure in SC2 community cast some BW action again is damn awesome! + Show Spoiler + More on topic, Huk had that game. If only he handled the Boxers 2nd drop better while he was attacking and didn't lose like 20 probes to only couple of vults and a tank (to be honest, I would've lost just as many probes myself vs Boxer lol). Still, pretty fun game. Would be really nice to see more showmatches like these  | ||
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Phyrigian
New Zealand1332 Posts
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j4vz
Canada976 Posts
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Salteador Neo
Andorra5591 Posts
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MasterBlasterCaster
United States568 Posts
In BW does the fire actually burn the Terran buildings (slowly damage health)? Those "Arbiters" I think they were called. Do those cloak like Mothership does? How does the Terran scan? Is there an OC or something else? | ||
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CamTSU
United States93 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:29 2Pacalypse- wrote: Not to diss on Huk, but I'm pretty sure HDStarcraft is misinformed when he said Huk was an A- player. If I remember correctly, Huk said it himself that he was like B- player (which is still pretty awesome), but not quite an A- player. All A rank players were pretty known in foreign BW community. I think Huk is the only name SC2 player to not have previously played another RTS (BW or War3) at a high level, so that sounds about right. Still, pretty fun game. Would be really nice to see more showmatches like these We should tweet people and try to make this happen. I want to see Artosis vs Idra BW suddenly. | ||
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slappy
United States1271 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:44 slappy wrote: oh damn huk has got some pretty good micro! Top 3 in the world, after all. | ||
pPingu
Switzerland2892 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:29 2Pacalypse- wrote: Not to diss on Huk, but I'm pretty sure HDStarcraft is misinformed when he said Huk was an A- player. If I remember correctly, Huk said it himself that he was like B- player (which is still pretty awesome), but not quite an A- player. All A rank players were pretty known in foreign BW community. Besides that, there were also a few blunders in HD Starcraft's cast (like saying you couldn't OBS games in BW and had to be a Terran player and lift your c&c to obs), but all is forgiven because seeing such a popular figure in SC2 community cast some BW action again is damn awesome! + Show Spoiler + More on topic, Huk had that game. If only he handled the Boxers 2nd drop better while he was attacking and didn't lose like 20 probes to only couple of vults and a tank (to be honest, I would've lost just as many probes myself vs Boxer lol). Still, pretty fun game. Would be really nice to see more showmatches like these Well, boxer was helped a bit Don't think it happened during the drop, but still funny imo | ||
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:38 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Bad ass match-up, the match itself was way cool (at least it seemed to me), but I have a couple of questions: In BW does the fire actually burn the Terran buildings (slowly damage health)? Those "Arbiters" I think they were called. Do those cloak like Mothership does? How does the Terran scan? Is there an OC or something else? If the building is only in yellow health range (moderately damaged) then it will show as on fire but won't take damage, if it's in red health (very damaged) then yeah it takes damage over time. Arbiters do cloak units, scan is from the comsat station which is an addon you put on the Command Center. | ||
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corumjhaelen
France6884 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:38 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Bad ass match-up, the match itself was way cool (at least it seemed to me), but I have a couple of questions: In BW does the fire actually burn the Terran buildings (slowly damage health)? Those "Arbiters" I think they were called. Do those cloak like Mothership does? How does the Terran scan? Is there an OC or something else? Yes. Only units, not building. There's a specific add on on the CC, which requires an academy to be built. Pretty cool, even though the game is not exactly the best... Yeah, I know Boxer <3 etc etc | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:38 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Bad ass match-up, the match itself was way cool (at least it seemed to me), but I have a couple of questions: In BW does the fire actually burn the Terran buildings (slowly damage health)? Same as SC2; but the fire animation can start a bit before the building is low enough to burn down. (Protoss buildings also catch fire in SC1, but that's purely cosmetic) Those "Arbiters" I think they were called. Do those cloak like Mothership does? Not quite; they only cloak units, not buildings. They have recall (which is a bit weaker than the mothership's Mass Recall, but arbiters are much cheaper and you can have several at a time), and Stasis Field, which freezes units in crystals How does the Terran scan? Is there an OC or something else? Comsat Station, an add-on to the Command Center. It doesn't do anything else (no mules), so BW Terrans scan a lot more than SC2 Terrans because there's nothing else to do with the energy. I think the BW scan reveals less area, but I'm not sure. It reveals quite a bit, though, and it detects like the SC2 scan. | ||
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thoradycus
Malaysia3262 Posts
i dont play BW and only watch it but it looks so exciting to play | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
From pPingu's video: Boxers girlfriend holds Huk's eyes at one point and messes with his mouse. Totally BM | ||
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Zooper31
United States5710 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:38 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Bad ass match-up, the match itself was way cool (at least it seemed to me), but I have a couple of questions: In BW does the fire actually burn the Terran buildings (slowly damage health)? Those "Arbiters" I think they were called. Do those cloak like Mothership does? How does the Terran scan? Is there an OC or something else? Yes, it if catches on fire it will burn down slowly. Yes thats where the cloaking from the mothership came from. Addon to the CC, like on the barracks/factory/starport. Called Proximity Scan when used, also had a different addon to the CC where nukes came from. | ||
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Manimal_pro
Romania991 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
 meh game tbh + Show Spoiler + thought that HuK is gonna take it for a while.. but it didnt happen | ||
monk
United States8476 Posts
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Zyphen
United States258 Posts
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HaruHaru
United States988 Posts
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Jojo131
Brazil1631 Posts
Def would love to play BW more, but I hear it doesn't work well on Windows 7 | ||
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RelZo
Hungary397 Posts
On December 26 2011 07:31 Jojo131 wrote: Def would love to play BW more, but I hear it doesn't work well on Windows 7 Works perfectly for me, and there's a Blizzard fix for the colour glitch as well It shows that Boxer hasn't played BW in a while haha, it was weird to watch; fun match though. | ||
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vOdToasT
Sweden2870 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 26 2011 07:31 Jojo131 wrote: Very cool game! Def would love to play BW more, but I hear it doesn't work well on Windows 7 It takes some finessing. Run game ctrl+shift+esc Kill "explorer.exe" in task manager Play game that now runs fine Start new process "explorer.exe" in task manager to get your taskbar back. | ||
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Zyphen
United States258 Posts
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CoolSea
United States236 Posts
I think, from what I remember, is that Boxer was having a lot of problems because the hotkeys were different? I remember that's what was being said. | ||
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NarutO
Germany18839 Posts
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bgx
Poland6595 Posts
some misinformation's (like usual for HD ;P) but overall very enjoyable cast | ||
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mtn
729 Posts
On December 26 2011 07:54 mTw|NarutO wrote: I think it was very very bad and sloppy play from BoxeR ... nothing like he can play. No shiet.? He played sc2 form past 1year+ I just cant comprehend what people are saying in this thread. | ||
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VirgilSC2
United States6151 Posts
IPL had technology called LiveU which allowed them to stream video using the 3G network from real high quality camera equipment. | ||
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teddyoojo
Germany22369 Posts
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:29 2Pacalypse- wrote: Not to diss on Huk, but I'm pretty sure HDStarcraft is misinformed when he said Huk was an A- player. If I remember correctly, Huk said it himself that he was like B- player (which is still pretty awesome), but not quite an A- player. All A rank players were pretty known in foreign BW community. Besides that, there were also a few blunders in HD Starcraft's cast (like saying you couldn't OBS games in BW and had to be a Terran player and lift your c&c to obs), but all is forgiven because seeing such a popular figure in SC2 community cast some BW action again is damn awesome! + Show Spoiler + More on topic, Huk had that game. If only he handled the Boxers 2nd drop better while he was attacking and didn't lose like 20 probes to only couple of vults and a tank (to be honest, I would've lost just as many probes myself vs Boxer lol). Still, pretty fun game. Would be really nice to see more showmatches like these Last I knew, Huk was D+... I remember playing him a few times and I never dropped a game to him. I was C+ max... | ||
arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:38 MasterBlasterCaster wrote: Bad ass match-up, the match itself was way cool (at least it seemed to me), but I have a couple of questions: In BW does the fire actually burn the Terran buildings (slowly damage health)? Those "Arbiters" I think they were called. Do those cloak like Mothership does? How does the Terran scan? Is there an OC or something else? Yes it does in SC2 also yes, but they cant cloak each other the building coming off the cc = how terran scans | ||
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ivirj
Mexico79 Posts
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XenOsky
Chile2272 Posts
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
On December 26 2011 09:06 ivirj wrote: Huk was a b- player? I call shennanigans even if he was a P player wich is basically a C U lie he was BONJWA *troll face* I'm sure HuK was pretty decent judging by his breakout SCII Beta performance. He'd be able to get pretty high on ICCUP if he actually tried. He'd still get raped to death by Koreans though. | ||
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zzdd
United States484 Posts
On December 26 2011 09:06 ivirj wrote: Huk was a b- player? I call shennanigans even if he was a P player wich is basically a C I don't think he played P in BW. | ||
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StrinterN
Denmark531 Posts
Pretty cool game! (: | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
On December 26 2011 09:06 ivirj wrote: Huk was a b- player? I call shennanigans even if he was a P player wich is basically a C HuK played terran for Brood war. | ||
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taitanik
Latvia231 Posts
On December 26 2011 07:42 vOdToasT wrote: Yay for C level TvP? you should be happy that some players are still interested in bw because of hdstarcraft casting it | ||
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LEGAsee
170 Posts
Bisu Jaedong...Huk? No. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
Probably wrong forum for that joke :/. Huk infamously proclaimed he had "top 3 control" in the entire world well before he actually won anything. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
 HuK is a funny guy. I guess you had to be a funny guy to have to play PvP before they killed the 4 gate. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
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anycolourfloyd
Australia524 Posts
the game was quite entertaining and tbh closer than expected. just appreciate it for what it was. | ||
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Vortigan
Denmark306 Posts
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HuK
Canada1591 Posts
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HuK
Canada1591 Posts
1. first game i owned really quickly with ez build and nice micro 2. payam (tt1) was my coach and was very good 3. jessica never coached me, she only cheated for boxer and tried to hinder my abilities 4. i was A- in bw as terran on iccup (was my highest, barely, and wouldn't of held it for any decent amount of time), it was all in good fun in the end and boxer on regular conditions and both in shape would destroy me i think | ||
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checo
Mexico1364 Posts
On December 26 2011 10:54 HuK wrote: next time cast the game i won newb Thats the Huk we love =P | ||
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hewley
Germany1063 Posts
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On December 26 2011 10:57 HuK wrote: it was all good and fun but some facts: 1. first game i owned really quickly with ez build and nice micro 2. payam (tt1) was my coach and was very good 3. jessica never coached me, she only cheated for boxer and tried to hinder my abilities 4. i was A- in bw as terran on iccup (was my highest, barely, and wouldn't of held it for any decent amount of time), it was all in good fun in the end and boxer on regular conditions and both in shape would destroy me i think You should play a BW TvT match with Idra at some point and get it casted by inCrontrol or something, that would be fun Anyway, I don't watch much BW (WoL is what got me into RTS/eSports) but I remember seeing the Boxer - HuK matches when Internet was down at IPL3 and its nice to see one of them getting a proper cast as opposed to a shaky over-the-shoulder view. For what this game lacked in tension, importance and skill (compare to what they have at the OSL / SPL) it was still a really nice treat for us WoL fans. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 26 2011 11:17 Fischbacher wrote: You should play a BW TvT match with Idra at some point and get it casted by inCrontrol or something, that would be fun HUK, DO THIS. | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
This replay was published almost immediately back then, so I've studied the game already - but where's the replay from the other game, and why isn't that game cast at least? | ||
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Le French
France782 Posts
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Cyro
United Kingdom20287 Posts
On December 26 2011 08:38 GreEny K wrote: Last I knew, Huk was D+... I remember playing him a few times and I never dropped a game to him. I was C+ max... How the hell could a pro like HuK, especially one more micro and control focused instead of super tactical 1.5 hour game every time he plays on shakuras like a few people (i doubt he would do that even if he was terran) be D+? Ive seen people play at that level and it is pretty horrible to watch | ||
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Billd
Canada210 Posts
I think Huk is the only name SC2 player to not have previously played another RTS (BW or War3) at a high level, so that sounds about right. As far as I know, Huk's RTS experience came from Company of Heroes. He was held in high regard in that community and his replays were downloaded quite a bit. He achieved "expert" which is considered top level. Edit: Just a random factoid | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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Rostam
United States2552 Posts
I'm not sure a TvT, especially one that involves Idra, is the greatest idea for something that's supposed to be an entertaining showmatch | ||
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Fischbacher
Canada666 Posts
On December 26 2011 11:35 Rostam wrote: I'm not sure a TvT, especially one that involves Idra, is the greatest idea for something that's supposed to be an entertaining showmatch Well, its in the tradition of GOMTvT tournaments. And mostly because it was both their main in BW. But more generally the idea of a HuK Idra BW showmatch makes my inner fangirl giggle. | ||
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LuckyMacro
United States1482 Posts
On December 26 2011 11:35 Rostam wrote: I'm not sure a TvT, especially one that involves Idra, is the greatest idea for something that's supposed to be an entertaining showmatch 4 hour tvt go go go. | ||
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:23 blubbdavid wrote: Against expectations, the Youtube comments are fairly sensible. Expect that of BW videos... On December 26 2011 07:03 thoradycus wrote: ugh why cant we have mech in SC2 tvp i dont play BW and only watch it but it looks so exciting to playToo many hard counters to mech; but yeah, I prefer mech TvP myself; not seeing bio there like I'd always expect in TvZ is something that makes BW so refreshing. LOL only Hunters would make it go for 4 hours. I'm expecting 2 hours if it were Judgment Day or Grand Line. :p | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
Nah, if its for fun, play Toss and make DTs. | ||
HawaiianPig
Canada5155 Posts
EDIT: lol @ a 20 minute game being 2 base v 3 base. Lern2BW | ||
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Kybuar
United States93 Posts
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JieXian
Malaysia4677 Posts
But anyways always nice to see showmatches like these :D On December 26 2011 10:57 HuK wrote: boxer on regular conditions and both in shape would destroy me i think You THINK? | ||
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Ansinjunger
United States2451 Posts
Seriously though, it was really exciting when Boxer repelled that early HuK push and when HuK's zealots were diving in to cause friendly fire. | ||
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Najda
United States3765 Posts
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carloselcoco
United States2302 Posts
On December 26 2011 06:48 pPingu wrote: Well, boxer was helped a bit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CZurs369yI Don't think it happened during the drop, but still funny imo LOL!!! Now I understand HuK's comment: Coach is bad | ||
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d3_crescentia
United States4054 Posts
On December 26 2011 13:51 Najda wrote: It's worth noting that they played two games, and huk won the first one. I don't remember what it was though, I think it was a one or two base timing that killed boxer while he was expanding? My memory is very vague. It was a 10/15 gate on some map that was REALLY good for it. | ||
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ticklishmusic
United States15977 Posts
Ranks on iccup were a lot harder than on sc2. Given that the community is/was significantly smaller (and is shrinking even more now sadly), there was something like ~10 people ranked A or higher. I'd personally say getting A on iccup is probably equivalent, or harder to top 8 GM in a division. Wonder why my B- (given it was for 2 days) didn't translate into SC2 gosu | ||
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happyness
United States2400 Posts
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Remfire
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Fontong
United States6454 Posts
Really cute to watch though | ||
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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toastt
United States23 Posts
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Dante08
Singapore4128 Posts
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Nyarly
France1030 Posts
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LightAngels
United States299 Posts
On December 26 2011 17:20 NanaCry wrote: Just as i was dreaming of Nestea + Mvp vs Flash + Jaedong on Sc2 + BW *_* Flash can 1v2 both Nestea and Mvp :D | ||
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AssyrianKing
Australia2111 Posts
HuK got owned lol | ||
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SnowFantasy
4173 Posts
On December 26 2011 10:57 HuK wrote: it was all good and fun but some facts: 1. first game i owned really quickly with ez build and nice micro 2. payam (tt1) was my coach and was very good 3. jessica never coached me, she only cheated for boxer and tried to hinder my abilities 4. i was A- in bw as terran on iccup (was my highest, barely, and wouldn't of held it for any decent amount of time), it was all in good fun in the end and boxer on regular conditions and both in shape would destroy me i think I thought when Day[9] asked if you played BW that you were only like B- >< | ||
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Cyro
United Kingdom20287 Posts
On December 26 2011 08:06 VirgilSC2 wrote: Just would like to say that the match wasn't broadcast via a phone camera. IPL had technology called LiveU which allowed them to stream video using the 3G network from real high quality camera equipment. If anyone asked and it wasnt answered, I assume they played brood war and not sc2 because of the latency of the new network, not lack of bandwidth | ||
Peeano
Netherlands4992 Posts
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figq
12519 Posts
On December 26 2011 17:39 SnowFantasy wrote: I guess in one case he means consistently, the other he means highest peak, as included in his own quote that you put in bold:I thought when Day[9] asked if you played BW that you were only like B- >< "(was my highest, barely, and wouldn't of held it for any decent amount of time)" | ||
Falling
Canada11350 Posts
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rauk
United States2228 Posts
On December 26 2011 17:45 Cyro wrote: If anyone asked and it wasnt answered, I assume they played brood war and not sc2 because of the latency of the new network, not lack of bandwidth i thought they played bw because there was no network at all. | ||
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gogogadgetflow
United States2583 Posts
On December 26 2011 18:20 rauk wrote: i thought they played bw because there was no network at all. there is always a 3g network... but playing good sc2 or bw on that is clearly out of the question. the games were LAN | ||
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Distortionz
United States133 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 26 2011 19:04 Distortionz wrote: Was, nostalgia. I almost feel sad knowing boxer's prime may truly be behind him for good. Well, he's back in Code S. I realize BW fans don't consider SC2 notable, but he's out of the 8-month languish of obscurity he's been in, and seems to do decently well in foreign tournaments with a crowd. He's doing alright. Also, he's marrying a movie star :O | ||
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pred470r
Bulgaria3265 Posts
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sVnteen
Germany2238 Posts
On December 26 2011 17:39 SnowFantasy wrote: I thought when Day[9] asked if you played BW that you were only like B- >< trust him im sure he knows better awesome game to watch eventhough i never really was into broodwar (WC3 ftw ) | ||
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speedphlux
Bulgaria962 Posts
Had a blast watching this game Pretty epic stuff. | ||
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sluggaslamoo
Australia4494 Posts
Who cares if HD is casting? I just want to thank HD for casting this game and exposing BW to the SC2 community. | ||
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Stratos
Czech Republic6104 Posts
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Nightrage
Greece212 Posts
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Eywa-
Canada4876 Posts
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SmoKim
Denmark10305 Posts
On December 26 2011 21:20 Nightrage wrote: The video quality is awesome. I wish Korean VOD's looked that good :D Also the first thing i i've noticed :D looooooooove the quality <3 | ||
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Ozira
Sweden150 Posts
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stickyhands
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Count9
China10928 Posts
On December 26 2011 17:20 NanaCry wrote: Just as i was dreaming of Nestea + Mvp vs Flash + Jaedong on Sc2 + BW *_* Oh you lovable sc2 fans, never witnessing ZergBong's unrelenting attempts to drag Reach down with him in 2v2 games. MVP was alright in bw though. Lol, boxer looking at keyboard, can't even remeber the keys. | ||
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Altercate
Sweden75 Posts
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Kaminate
United States49 Posts
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ChriS-X
Malaysia1374 Posts
On December 26 2011 18:19 Falling wrote: Heh. This is awesome. We need more of these showmatches. Like Day9 vs Artosis the rematch. day9 just needs to go dts vs artosis to make him rage quit | ||
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Chickaboom
Canada47 Posts
always rush to carriers n arbiters to win game ez with cannons lol gg hf! | ||
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Creager
Germany1895 Posts
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Tumor
Austria192 Posts
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RHMVNovus
United States738 Posts
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
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ShatterZer0
United States1843 Posts
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Streltsy
Canada98 Posts
Fun match, even if not serious. Thx HD. | ||
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AimlessAmoeba
Canada704 Posts
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fabiano
Brazil4644 Posts
On December 27 2011 00:26 Streltsy wrote: Why did we stop playing this game again? Fun match, even if not serious. Thx HD. Too hard for some people standards. I still play, still lose a lot more than I win and still have fun doing so. Better know that you are bad than pretending that you are good. | ||
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Muffinman53
571 Posts
It was really enjoyable to watch! | ||
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sick_transit
United States195 Posts
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tapk69
Portugal264 Posts
The game was funny , SC2 should have Lan mode , professional tournments with disconnects and lag are bad.. | ||
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HighTemper
Canada3867 Posts
On December 26 2011 20:09 sluggaslamoo wrote: Who cares what Huk's rank was? Who cares if HD is casting? I just want to thank HD for casting this game and exposing BW to the SC2 community. My thought exactly. Thx HD. | ||
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BalliSLife
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amazingxkcd
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
On December 27 2011 05:40 BalliSLife wrote: Foreigners can't take on koreans in bw LOL Sziky wants a word with you | ||
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Mindcrime
United States6899 Posts
Oh, has he won Courage? No? Then I think the statement stands. | ||
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Megaliskuu
United States5123 Posts
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thezanursic
5484 Posts
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Jacopana
El Salvador210 Posts
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Sinedd
Poland7052 Posts
On December 27 2011 06:36 Jacopana wrote: there must be a 3rd match cuz they went 1-1 on IPL!! someone make it happen please!! wheres the other game ?! :D and also YES !!! | ||
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puppykiller
United States3128 Posts
Idra vs MC BW showmatch... now that would be really really fun. | ||
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Synwave
United States2803 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + was so funny when jessica started messing with things and you could see all the boy grins and laughter | ||
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The Final Boss
United States1839 Posts
On December 26 2011 07:03 thoradycus wrote: ugh why cant we have mech in SC2 tvp i dont play BW and only watch it but it looks so exciting to playI think this every time I play TvP. It's my favorite BW match-up, but it's my least favorite SC2 match-up. | ||
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ashLoo
United States202 Posts
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bbm
United Kingdom1320 Posts
On December 27 2011 04:44 tapk69 wrote: The games are pretty similar , and im glad SC2 is more noob friendly , its pretty much an evolution.. The game was funny , SC2 should have Lan mode , professional tournments with disconnects and lag are bad.. I just want to point out that this incident is not an argument for sc2 lan. While there have been plenty of situations with problems that do call for LAN, a truck driving into the internet is not one. They didn't consider that when they decided on no LAN. There have been numerous incidents that wouldn't have happened with LAN in the past 18 months, but random completely unpredictable major incidents like this shouldn't be ammo for anyone going "OMFG LAN" unless they're joking. This shit is once in a million. It's like arguing that I'm not protected against lightning strikes on my way to work, so I should invest in a faraday cage. But anyway, this was a great thing. The problem I have with broodwar is it's just so inaccessible to a casual watcher. I've watched a couple of sayle's casts and they're certainly pretty good, but they're aimed at pleasing the BW community as well as including newbies so they can't cover every little thing, whereas HD made lots of unit-unit comparisons and such. (Plus I never seem to be on TL when sayle's streaming) | ||
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Torte de Lini
Germany38463 Posts
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iSometric
2221 Posts
On December 27 2011 07:29 puppykiller wrote: HD was D+? no way that can be true he was like D-. And im pretty sure Huk was B. Idra vs MC BW showmatch... now that would be really really fun. D+ isn't farfetched | ||
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Jebusrocks
Canada62 Posts
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Newbistic
China2912 Posts
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eeniebear
United States197 Posts
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Megaman_X
United States164 Posts
On December 27 2011 13:11 eeniebear wrote: Man, Boxer is rusty. That was C- level play. Fun to watch though. I heard from somewhere that both of them had issues with the different hotkeys. Maybe that played a small factor. | ||
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LoLAdriankat
United States4307 Posts
On December 27 2011 13:46 Megaman_X wrote: I heard from somewhere that both of them had issues with the different hotkeys. Maybe that played a small factor. It really does throw people off when half the hotkeys on right side of the keyboard after playing a game where the majority of the hotkeys are on the left side. | ||
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wassbix
Canada499 Posts
On December 27 2011 13:54 LoLAdriankat wrote: It really does throw people off when half the hotkeys on right side of the keyboard after playing a game where the majority of the hotkeys are on the left side. P for Probe 4 lyfe pppppppppppppppppp | ||
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RezChi
Canada2368 Posts
On December 27 2011 13:46 Megaman_X wrote: I heard from somewhere that both of them had issues with the different hotkeys. Maybe that played a small factor. After playing brood war for 10+ years how can Boxer have hotkey issues = ( Boxer i am disapoint | ||
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Mirror0423
United States175 Posts
Tyty. I wish OSL will start back up soon... at least I can watch more SPL | ||
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Mawi
Sweden4365 Posts
Glad i saw this thank you! | ||
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Cambium
United States16368 Posts
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Nazgral
Denmark28 Posts
Ok so this might be a silly question but was Boxer A or A+ (if there is such a thing) ? Naz- | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:11 Nazgral wrote: THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT STARCRAFT! Ok so this might be a silly question but was Boxer A or A+ (if there is such a thing) ? Naz- BoxeR transcended the ranking system. I'm pretty sure he hit Olympic on iCCup smurf accounts from what I remember, but he's one of the greatest BW players of all time and can't really be ranked on the same scale as a B- edit: Olympic being higher than A+ | ||
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pedduck
Thailand468 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:11 Nazgral wrote: THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT STARCRAFT! Ok so this might be a silly question but was Boxer A or A+ (if there is such a thing) ? Naz- Actually An A+ player would be something like a "Colonel" in military rank. Then Boxer is the Emperor | ||
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eeniebear
United States197 Posts
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Chronald
United States619 Posts
Most likely B/B+, since he tried to 2base vs 2base on LT in PvT, no A rank would do that. | ||
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GreEny K
Germany7312 Posts
On December 28 2011 03:45 eeniebear wrote: Boxer was way past ICCUP. Most progamers are. (edit: WERE, before they started playing a game where 100 APM makes you gosu) Actually... Quite a few progammers played on iCCup each season. | ||
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Gao Xi
Hong Kong5178 Posts
On December 28 2011 07:06 GreEny K wrote: Actually... Quite a few progammers played on iCCup each season. I think he meant that they were past iccup's ranking system in terms of skill. | ||
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KangaRuthless
United States304 Posts
At any rate, It's good to see SC2 casters bringing BW into the spotlight. | ||
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Stancel
Singapore15360 Posts
Didn't HuK say he hotkeys 0 to Nexus and P for probe in SC2 because of BW in a Day9 daily? | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 28 2011 07:16 DoNotDisturb wrote: Didn't HuK say he hotkeys 0 to Nexus and P for probe in SC2 because of BW in a Day9 daily? i think that i'd probably do the same, anything other than 0p9p is just so...unnatural. | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 27 2011 18:03 Mirror0423 wrote: What a good ending to my year Tyty. I wish OSL will start back up soon... at least I can watch more SPLNot much longer! On December 27 2011 20:11 Nazgral wrote: THATS WHAT I LOVE ABOUT STARCRAFT! Ok so this might be a silly question but was Boxer A or A+ (if there is such a thing) ? Naz- He was a Bonjwa. For a time, he was the undisputed best BW player in the world. On December 28 2011 06:58 Chronald wrote: HuK def not A rank. Most likely B/B+, since he tried to 2base vs 2base on LT in PvT, no A rank would do that. A- as Terran. On December 28 2011 07:16 DoNotDisturb wrote: Didn't HuK say he hotkeys 0 to Nexus and P for probe in SC2 because of BW in a Day9 daily? You think that's crazy? ForGG doesn't hotkey his production buildings. He actually goes back to his base every 30 seconds and builds out of them individually like in BW. | ||
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nemY
United States3119 Posts
On December 26 2011 11:28 Cyro wrote: How the hell could a pro like HuK, especially one more micro and control focused instead of super tactical 1.5 hour game every time he plays on shakuras like a few people (i doubt he would do that even if he was terran) be D+? Ive seen people play at that level and it is pretty horrible to watch Meh, if HuK is Nex-Retribution then I remember playing him back in the day and he wasn't that great... bare in mind this was probably close to 4 years ago. Not hating on HuK, but around the time I quit playing BW he wasn't that great... still though if he practiced a bunch and what not and was coached by TT1, then I could see him rising up to a higher rank... why not? It's cool to say you beat a pro gamer way back in the day, but it really doesn't mean much lol. Just shows you how far they've come and... makes you ask what you've been doing with your life haha. | ||
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Canada12499 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:21 Ribbon wrote: You think that's crazy? ForGG doesn't hotkey his production buildings. He actually goes back to his base every 30 seconds and builds out of them individually like in BW. Old habits must die hard; is he still faster at doing that than people who use hotkeys? | ||
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mtn
729 Posts
On December 28 2011 08:21 Ribbon wrote: Not much longer! He was a Bonjwa. For a time, he was the undisputed best BW player in the world. A- as Terran. You think that's crazy? ForGG doesn't hotkey his production buildings. He actually goes back to his base every 30 seconds and builds out of them individually like in BW. No he doesn't. (ForGG) The only thing he is doing is that he hotkeys 2 orbitals on 9 and 0, and use only scans there. The other command centers he doesnt have hotkeyed. And he is using them for mules. | ||
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arb
Noobville17921 Posts
On December 27 2011 20:13 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote: BoxeR transcended the ranking system. I'm pretty sure he hit Olympic on iCCup smurf accounts from what I remember, but he's one of the greatest BW players of all time and can't really be ranked on the same scale as a B- edit: Olympic being higher than A+ Well technically it was the same rank, but the icon was awarded for reaching 15000 points.(it carried the same weight as if you were A+ i mean) | ||
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a176
Canada6688 Posts
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O-ops
United States4236 Posts
*rimshot* | ||
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Ciraxis
Australia400 Posts
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Gamegene
United States8308 Posts
On December 28 2011 17:19 Ciraxis wrote: Never got into Brood War, but every time I watch it, I wish I did... It's never too late. Watch a stream and head into the LR thread or IRC. BW fans are always super nice, and they'll answer any questions. | ||
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felleN
Australia60 Posts
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 28 2011 18:57 felleN wrote: I also wish I got into Brood War before sc2 came out Why? Now you can get into Brood War AFTER SC2 came out! Most of didn't, so be proud or your accomplishment! | ||
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shaftofpleasure
Korea (North)1375 Posts
User was warned for this post | ||
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Ribbon
United States5278 Posts
On December 28 2011 19:15 shaftofpleasure wrote: Not to burst your bubble guys but Savior and Flash were/are the only Bonjwas .. Boxer was definitely not one of them. Some can argue Jaedong and iloveoov. The accepted list is Boxer, Iloveoov, Nada, Savior, and Flash. | ||
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Rustug
1488 Posts
On December 28 2011 19:15 shaftofpleasure wrote: Not to burst your bubble guys but Savior and Flash were/are the only Bonjwas .. Boxer was definitely not one of them. Some can argue Jaedong and iloveoov. Is this a fact or personal opinion? I'm not claiming to be knowledgeable in the ways of BW, but I do like learing about the history of competitive gaming. I've spend time reading Chobopeon's StarCraft Bible and TL's Liquipedia and they tell me a different story. | ||
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felleN
Australia60 Posts
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
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Rustug
1488 Posts
On December 28 2011 19:55 Black[CAT] wrote: LOL, noobs arguing Boxer isnt a bonjwa. Blasphemy! It's only one making the statement that he isn't, I'm asking a question. And one providing some information. I wouldn't call it arguing. Calling us all "noobs" is pretty unwelcoming. Especially to individuals trying to show they have a genuine interest in Starcraft history. | ||
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Black[CAT]
Malaysia2589 Posts
On December 28 2011 20:03 Rustug wrote: It's only one making the statement that he isn't, I'm asking a question. And one providing some information. I wouldn't call it arguing. Calling us all "noobs" is pretty unwelcoming. Especially to individuals trying to show they have a genuine interest in Starcraft history. I wasnt talking about you. To answer your previous question, it is pretty much fact as bonjwas were crowned by the Korean community and commentators. Savior was given the title bonjwa first, then Boxer, Nada and iloveoov was given retrospectively. Flash wasnt called bonjwa by koreans, he is above bonjwa as he is called 'God'. Yea, kinda weird call him that but there you go. p.s. Im in a nasty mood today for odd reasons... | ||
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Austro
Australia48 Posts
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krzych113
United Kingdom547 Posts
great commentary | ||
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Rustug
1488 Posts
On December 28 2011 20:22 Black[CAT] wrote: I wasnt talking about you. To answer your previous question, it is pretty much fact as bonjwas were crowned by the Korean community and commentators. Savior was given the title bonjwa first, then Boxer, Nada and iloveoov was given retrospectively. Flash wasnt called bonjwa by koreans, he is above bonjwa as he is called 'God'. Yea, kinda weird call him that but there you go. p.s. Im in a nasty mood today for odd reasons... My apologies also, the cold weather and lack of sleep made me a bit edgy. Thanks for information, I did not know about the Flash <> "god" part yet. On a side-note, as a proud owner of one of the Jim Raynor USB sticks, which contains BW, I've now started playing BW. After watching several hours of BW on the stream of - nanashin - I felt the need to feel how BW plays nowadays. I say nowadays, as I did play all Starcraft campains, back in the day, just never the multi-player. | ||
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blackwolf
Denmark157 Posts
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Garmer
1286 Posts
anyway, fun game indeed | ||
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Headsortails
Australia20 Posts
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
On December 28 2011 19:15 shaftofpleasure wrote: Not to burst your bubble guys but Savior and Flash were/are the only Bonjwas .. Boxer was definitely not one of them. Some can argue Jaedong and iloveoov. boxer wasnt the most dominant bonjwa but he was definitely one. i would say iloveoov was probably the most dominant one with winning tvz like 50 straight or something like that and the other MU were like above 80% . iloveoov macro style pave the way for nada to win the most championship. your missing a few bonjwas. | ||
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Diizzy
United States828 Posts
On December 27 2011 12:43 Jebusrocks wrote: I remember in a SotG episode where Huk said he was A- (confirmed my Incontrol i think) and that he beat Idra (in bw) so i think thats where HD got the idea huk was not a- he was around B. IDRA best foreigner before SC2 came out. | ||
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Disposition1989
Canada270 Posts
On December 30 2011 00:37 Diizzy wrote: huk was not a- he was around B. IDRA best foreigner before SC2 came out. you forgot to read the part where huk came in this thread and said what his rank was : / | ||
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5FDP
Germany44 Posts
On December 28 2011 17:19 Ciraxis wrote: Never got into Brood War, but every time I watch it, I wish I did... me2. But i'm planing to try when i finally do have more time. will be fun being bw noob but always worth the try | ||
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bigwig123
163 Posts
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InFdude
Bulgaria619 Posts
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bigwig123
163 Posts
On December 30 2011 02:47 InFdude wrote: Don't mean to rain on anyones parade but this seemed like quite the low lvl game to me .Could be because I still watch regular pro games but honestly that seemed like C- vs D+ to me.neither of them played bw in years thats why, boxer was reluctant to even play at first | ||
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