Update3:: Part 2 is done Update2:: Part 2 is in the works! Hope to have it done soon Update:: Here is the photo album associated with the interview. Thanks e_i_pi_1_0! (He was also the one that suggested I translate this interview via PM in the first place)
Jaedong and Bisu's Very Special Encounter (Part 1)
Recently, it became a hot issue that even Super Junior's Kyuhyun wanted [Jaedong and Bisu] to become friends. The two progamers' relationship has not only garnered attention from their fans, but also celebrities. Unlike other players in TBLS, which includes the four best SC players of this generation, Jaedong and Bisu were never good friends. Eventually, it got to the point where fans of e-sports started a movement wanting them to become friends.
Were their prayers about to be answered? Thanks to Super Junior's Kyuhyun, who facilitated their meeting, the two were able to become closer. By now rumor has it that the two have become close enough to meet up and talk about their lives. The two bragged that they chatted over Kakao-tok [free txting app] even on the day of the interview, showing that their non-progaming life was intact and as alive as ever.
On the day of the interview, Jaedong was the first to arrive at Shinsa Dong's Garosu Street. He sheepishly apologized and said he had to make a call for about 10 minutes, saying that "Lomo is going off to the military today." We had already received word that Bisu was going to be a little late, and Jaedong seemed relieved when we told him he could take his time.
While looking through the menu of the outdoors restaurant we had chosen, Jaedong said, "I like Korean food better" and didn't seem enticed by what the menu had to offer. We had chosen the restaurant because there is no room for photography in Korean restaurants. Jaedong smiled and said, "I'm still young but I like old-people food like Gookbab and Soondae-Gook [traditional food with lots of broth. Look them up if curious: 국밥, 순대국] In the end, he chose a dish of pasta and resumed texting with Lomo while waiting for Bisu to arrive.
10 minutes later, Bisu arrived, and Jaedong greeted him. They didn't seem awkward like before. In fact, we felt awkward seeing them act friendly towards each other. They seemed to have forgotten that this was an interview and chatted between themselves. It's a pity that a lot of what was said was NSFW and can't be published here.
Unlike Jaedong, who took his time choosing his dish, Bisu picked something right away. He chose the most expensive steak dish. He said, "I know you journalists are rich" and innocently ate away at his filet mignon. I know that a lot of progamers have little knowledge of wages outside of the progaming world, but was Bisu really that oblivious, or was he just pretending to be so he could eat his steak with a clear conscience?
When asked how he would like his steak, Bisu said "appetizing," and caused people to burst out in laughter. He told the troubled waiter to make it "decently tender with some pink." The manner in which he spoke was truly Bisu-esque [T/N: Bisu gets a lot of flak for talking like a...Forrest Gump].
This interview almost didn't happen. Team8's Coach Joo mistakenly told Jaedong that the interview was the day after and Jaedong had relayed that message to Bisu. Bisu, upon receiving the text, went back to sleep. Fortunately, we were able to connect with Coach Joo in time so that Jaedong and Bisu could make it on time. Through this, we were able to conclude that the two text each other, putting an end to the myriad of questions from fans asking whether they communicate outside of SC.
In the past, when the two were together, their awkwardness made people next to them feel even more awkward, but now it got to the point where it was difficult to conduct the interview because the two wouldn't stop talking. They were busy catching up with each others' lives. I guess it's safe to say they are now good friends.
We now take you into the relatively little known world of Jaedong and Bisu's friendship.
DES=This is your first official interview since joining Team8. How does it feel.
JD=It's so much fun. The MBC Game players are very funny in particular (laughs). Bisu=They were always a bunch of loud-mouthed kids (laughs). JD=Alone said SKTelecom T1 is no fun because you guys just practice in silence. Bisu=He did? Well I guess there's some truth to that (laughs). JD=I guess it's hard for us to be comfortable at another team's practice facilities because our team hasn't had much of a chance to hang out with other teams. Bisu=In that regard I think it's good that a lot of MBC Game players joined Team8, because they are fun to be around (laughs). JD=Sea and Tyson take a keen interest in me. They're always saying stuff like 'Let's see how god Jaedong practices' or 'WWJD=What would Jaedong do?' [T/N: liberally translated] It took me a while but now I'm used to it (laughs). Bisu=I can imagine what it would be like (laughs).
DES=Many people are curious why it took you two so long to become friends.
JD=We just never had a chance to (laughs). Bisu=We weren't awkward; we just didn't know each other. JD=Being awkward and unacquainted are two different things (laughs). Bisu=I guess personality played a role, too. We both open up to our friends and speak comfortably, but can't talk to people we aren't close with. Also, we wait for others to reach out to us first. Since both of us are like that, it took us a lot of time to become friends. Also Stork and Flash are on Bnet a lot, so I get to talk to them, but Jaedong is never on (laughs). JD=It's true that I rarely go on Bnet (laughs)
DES=What did you think when you heard Super Junior's Kyuhyun had set up a meeting for you two.
JD=I wanted to use this opportunity to become friends with Bisu so I could put an end to all the fans saying we are awkward once and for all. Bisu=Of course I was excited. JD=You make it sound like a homo-erotic date (laughs). Bisu=Excited in a strictly platonic way (laughs). JD=Bisu wasn't able to drink that much that day. He had to practice early the next day. So I was the only one drinking (laughs). Bisu=Jaedong is a tank. I was shocked. JD=I don't have a high tolerance; I just withstand the effects with my mental abilities. In fact you have a higher tolerance than I do. Bisu=I was pretty shy the first day but Jaedong didn't seem very shy. JD=It would be a disservice [to Kyuhyun] to act shy at a place like that. So I decided to reach out first. Bisu=It worked.
DES=Bisu is ahead in head-to-head's. A lot of fans have been asking about that.
Bisu=I knew they would ask that. I was hoping you would be smart enough to filter those questions. JD=It's alright. It's true that I lost a lot. Bisu=When I play against Jaedong, I have good luck for some reason. I sometimes think 'if everything worked out as well as when I play Jaedong, I would never lose.' I seriously have no idea why. Jaedong=On the contrary, nothing works for some odd reason when I play against Bisu. My strategies get deflected and I can't even manage my own units. I often feel like I'm under a spell (laughs). Bisu=But I know that Jaedong is really good. I have a secret that nobody else knows. JD=Secret? What secret? Bisu=I said it's a secret (laughs).
DES=It's the 3-year anniversary edition interview. Say it.
Bisu=Recently I was playing on a server where a lot of progamers frequent, and I went 0-10 against this one player. I thought he was really good and guessed it was either Jaedong or ZerO. I just couldn't beat him. He was too good. I thought that if this isn't Jaedong or Zero, our team must sign him immediately. I kept asking him who he was, but he wouldn't say. I was really curious, but then Alone came and said 'This is Jaedong's smurf account.' I was once again reminded of Jaedong's greatness. JD=I had no idea that was you (laughs). But more importantly, I'm going to have a word with Alone for leaking such secrets (laughs). Bisu=From that day on, I knew Jaedong was really good. I really couldn't think of a way to beat him at the time. JD=You embarrass me. Why can't you lose to me like that in broadcasted matches (laughs). Bisu=I get a surge of confidence when I know I'm playing against Jaedong for some reason (laughs).
DES=A lot of fans are curious whether you guys send text messages to each other.
Jaedong=We don't text.
DES=How do you communicate then?
Jaedong=Who sends texts these days? We chat on Kakao-tok (laughs). Seems like whoever asked that needs to get with the times (laughs).
DES=There was an interesting question that one of the fans asked. Who is the best Zerg and Protoss in you guys' opinion?
JD=What an ass (laughs). Bisu=The best protoss in my opinion is... JD=What's there to think about. Everybody knows it's you (laughs). Bisu=I think results necessarily correlate to skill, so I choose Nal_rA. JD=I think Bisu. Even going off of your logic, you have more wins than him (laughs). Bisu=I have never won an OSL and my last MSL win was 3 years ago. It doesn't feel right to say it's me. JD= So convoluted (laughs). Bisu=I think everybody would agree that Jaedong is the best zerg. But it's hard to say the same about me (laughs). JD=I think I'm the best zerg at the moment. I have the most individual league wins and most wins in PL among zergs. Bisu=I wish I could say the same about myself (laughs).
DES=What about each other are you most jealous of?
Bisu=Individual league wins. You need extreme dedication to win, and Jaedong has that. JD=I want to correct a common misconception here. I'm not always intense in life. I just get that when I play SC. I'm a really easy-going guy normally (laughs). For some reason I turn into another person when I play. Bisu=Give me that other person you turn into then (laughs). JD=I want his good looks and popularity. Of course I have a lot of fans who love me. But for me it's just within the progaming world. A lot of random girls come up to Bisu and ask for his number while drinking. He must have a lot of girls and I am jealous. Bisu=Why are you doing this to me. There are a lot of rumors about you too (laughs). I have my sources too (laughs). JD=Wait. Let's not do this to each other (laughs). Bisu=You started it (laughs). And what's wrong with meeting girls (laughs). JD=Please edit out what I just said (laughs).
Jaedong and Bisu's Very Special Encounter (Part 2)
Jaedong and Bisu chatted away while time flew by. After revealing each others' dark secrets, they came to an agreement not to destroy their public image anymore. It was a let down for me who was just starting to enjoy the show, but they drew a line saying they can't commit social suicide for an interview.
However since the two were so close they opened up even without being asked. They would say something completely NSFW and add that "you can't publish this" together. I guess they really have become close friends.
Now we will once again delve into the world of Jaedong and Bisu's special encounter.
DES=Now you can just answer away at the fans' questions. Of course the more honest the better (laughs).
Bisu=I'm already scared I said too much; how can I be more honest! JD=I agree. We just need to keep it totally SFW from now on.
DES=Alright first question then. Whether you swear in front of a person is often used as a measure of friendliness; do you guys swear in front of each other?
JD=This is a tough one (laughs). Bisu=I almost never swear (laughs). Jaedong hails from Kyungsang-Do so I think he would swear a lot. [Kyungsang people are known to be more passionate and rugged than people from Seoul] JD=Still that doesn't mean I swear. I think I swore a lot to my Hwaseung teammates though (laughs). I guess you do swear after you get closer to someone (laughs). Bisu=Let's keep our friendship right at this level then (laughs). JD=But even my swearing is pleasant to listen to!
DES=How much can you drink.
JD=Bisu has a higher tolerance than I do. Bisu=Wat. You're a liar. JD=I make up for what I lack with my mental abilities (laughs). Bisu=Shush, you drank like a tank that one time. JD=No seriously I can't drink as much as you. You're known to be a beast. Bisu=It's all a conspiracy (laughs).
DES=If you had a younger sister would you introduce each other to her?
JD=If I had a younger sister I would control her from her school years right up until she married. I would not let her meet any guy and keep a keen eye on her. I'm not so sure how Bisu treats his women…. Bisu=I guess that's a no then (laughs). JD=That's not what I meant, you definitely meet the bar. You're rich and handsome so you would be a hundred times better than an average guy off the street. I just meant I wouldn't let any guy near her if I had a sister. Bisu=Well I guess I would have to say no, too (laughs). I feel like he would meet other women while seeing my sister (laughs). You know how successful guys tend to be (laughs). JD=This is false (laughs). We agreed not to do this to ourselves! Bisu=I was just talking about successful guys in general (laughs). If I get a younger sister, or a daughter, I'm going to set a strict curfew. Hearing about stories of people being sold off as slaves or being buried alive in secluded mountains in the news scares me so much. This world is not a kind place. JD=So how are you going to make up for the damage you've done to my image (laughs). Bisu=Again, I was talking about successful guys in general, not you specifically (laughs).
DES=You seem to have very different interests; for example, JD likes sports while Bisu doesn't.
Bisu=It's a misconception. When I was on MBC Game I was good at soccer too. I just haven't played a lot since so my skills have stagnated. If we were to play I could show you that I'm good! There's not a lot of opportunities to play sports in our area and ever since BoxeR left SKTelecom T1, nobody has actively promoted sporting events. JD=I've been wanting to go hiking recently, but nobody wants to go so I am sad. Bisu=I personally don't like mountains (laughs). JD=So you do hate sports (laughs). Bisu=I said I hate mountains (laughs).
DES=What were your first impressions of each other.
Bisu=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous. JD=I thought he was good looking. He is undeniably handsome (laughs). Bisu=I can't agree with that sentiment. I personally think RuBy is very good looking. He's also tall [Ruby is about 6'0.5" while Bisu is 5'9"]. JD=I can't talk about looks in front of Bisu. He is in another class. Bisu=My face is more refined and sharp, while Jaedong has a softer appeal. At first I thought it was a very cutsie face but the more I see him the more he exudes a soft and manly charm. JD=I personally love Bisu's laugh (laughs). People spell it out like 'Uh-hung-hung-hung' and I think it's very cute. Bisu=I lost my laugh because people kept making fun of it. JD=Why it's so cute! Bisu=See. Even you're making fun of it (laughs). JD=No seriously I'm not making fun of you, I think it's cute (laughs).
DES=One of the fans asked which part of your body you think is better than the other's.
JD=I'm not sure if I have any (laughs). Now that I think about it I have minimal body fat. I work out consistently and maintain a healthy diet so I guess I may have better overall health (laughs). Bisu=My eyes are prettier (laughs).
DES=What's most important: love, work or friendship?
Bisu=From a long time ago until now, ever since I was a progamer I think work came first. JD=I've never experienced real love so I guess love comes last. I would also rank friendship over work. Friendship comes first!
DES=Any recent interests?
JD=Not outside of gaming. Oh, I've been watching a drama called 'I'm a Flower, Too!' Please everybody watch it. It's so much fun but isn't that popular. I'm so upset. Bisu=I've been watching 'Man of Honor' recently. JD=That's a competing show! Switch to 'I'm a Flower, Too' quickly. It just started!
DES=One of Jaedong's fans asked what it feels like to have a large male fan-base.
JD=I guess they aren't fans of me, but rather my games, right? (laughs). I think a lot of male fans joke around about being gay for me (laughs). [T/N: I hope he visits TL one day] Bisu=I've never seen it but I guess it would be kind of creepy (laughs). JD=I sometimes get fan-mail from male fans. Bisu=Really? I've never. JD=I assumed all progamers received fan-mail from male fans, but then I asked my Hwaseung teammates and they all said that they hadn't either. I guess you don't either. Bisu=I don't even think there was ever a progamer around me that said that he received letters from male fans. JD=Well I'm still thankful (laughs).
DES=Is SC still fun?
JD=I guess the competition is more fun than the game itself. I enjoy competing, so I guess that's why a lot of people compliment my dedication and mental strength. Bisu=For me the game itself is still fun enough.
DES=One of the fans asked Bisu about his future goals with regards to individual leagues.
Bisu=I want to win it and I must win it. I am trying my best. JD=I think you put too much effort into preparing for PL matches. You won 63 games last season and that's pretty much a miracle. It's mind-blowing. But the fans don't give him enough credit for that and focus on his lack of results in individual leagues, and I feel really sorry. Every player is doing their best to perform, so I want to ask all the fans not to deride a player based on his individual league performance.
DES=Did any thing that was unexpected of the other person come up after becoming friends.
JD=Bisu is even more shy and timid than I first thought. Bisu=I'm always reminded of how manly Jaedong is every time I see him.
DES=One of the fans asked about your nose, Bisu; should we skip it? (laughs).
Jaedong=I personally don't think Bisu's nose is that big. It looks good on screen and he is really good looking in real life, too. There is a certain angle where he looks especially good, and whenever the camera man shows that angle I'm just awed by his looks. His nose isn't all that big when you see him in real life. Bisu=I think it's better than having a nose that's too small (laughs).
DES=If Jaedong and Park Wan Gyu [T/N: Famous rock singer in Korea, big advocate of E-sports] were drowning, who would Bisu save?
Bisu=I can't swim so I would drown too if I tried (laughs). I would do my best to save both (laughs). JD=I want to know what kind of logic prompted fans to ask this sort of question (laughs). I am so stumped when fans ask these sorts of questions (laughs).
DES=When do you plan on enlisting in the military?
JD=It's something that's always in the back of my mind. However I might not go to Airforce ACE. I haven't given it much thought yet so I will have a clearer answer when it's time. Bisu=I will go when I am 29 (laughs). I will go when my skills deteriorate. Now that I think about it, I am curious when my skills will start to fade.
DES=We are almost out of time. We will end the interview after parting words from each of you.
Bisu=I want Team8 to do well. It must be so difficult and stressful. Looking at Jaedong, I can sense the adversities that the team must have faced. I will pray that a good corporation picks up Team8. JD=In order for that to happen, you need to do something. You need to lose when you're playing against us (laughs). Go easy for the sake of our team (laughs). Bisu=Let's practice hard so we can face each other in the OSL finals this season. JD=Yea let's. I want to produce awesome games on the biggest stage of e-sports.
Their heart-warming, hold-nothing-back interview ended like this. I wanted to hear more of what they had to say but they were both practicing hard in preparation of the season opener, so we were on a tight schedule. I hope to see both players at the highest of stages this season like they had promised each other.
After their interview, the players sent a brief message to Daily E-Sports in celebration of its 3 year anniversary.
JD, Bisu=We would like to congratulate DES for its third anniversary. I hope DES continues to grow as a publication and please include a lot of articles about us. I hope a lot of our fans visit DES, too (laughs). Please call us back for your fourth anniversary as well. DES fighting!
YES! Saw this last night but didn't have time to try and translate. I love youuu <3
It makes me so happy that they're finally close to each other now. A big thank you to Kyu, #1 matchmaker for making it happen! I'm really curious as to what all the NSFW talk was
It does seem like Jaedong is practice bonjwa against Bisu - there were a couple interviews earlier where Bisu said that Jaedong had won all of their practice games on one occasion, and another where he said he struggled to beat Jaedong (I think something to do with Jaedong practicing for matches against Kal)....
And yet in broadcast games, he's 1 - 7 against Bisu since the Averatec-Intel Classic Special Match.
Unlike Jaedong, who took his time choosing his dish, Bisu picked something right away. He chose the most expensive steak dish. He said, "I know you journalists are rich" and innocently ate away at his filet mignon. I know that a lot of progamers have little knowledge of wages outside of the progaming world, but was Bisu really that oblivious, or was he just pretending to be so he could eat his steak with a clear conscience?
Bisu=Recently I was playing on a server where a lot of progamers frequent, and I went 0-10 against this one player. I thought he was really good and guessed it was either Jaedong or ZerO. I just couldn't beat him. He was too good. I thought that if this isn't Jaedong or Zero, our team must sign him immediately. I kept asking him who he was, but he wouldn't say. I was really curious, but then Alone came and said 'This is Jaedong's smurf account.' I was once again reminded of Jaedong's greatness. JD=I had no idea that was you (laughs). But more importantly, I'm going to have a word with Alone for leaking such secrets (laughs). Bisu=From that day on, I knew Jaedong was really good. I really couldn't think of a way to beat him at the time.
Also by no means I wish that the SC1 pro scene should be anything like the SC2 pro scene, but I'd so want to watch these guys stream just for a bit. I know it's impossible but even for 1-2 games daily, it'd be amazing.
This must be some cultural thing I dont get...they organized a meeting so they can become friends, because they behave "awkward"? Is it important for the korean fans that all the pros are best buds?
Besides that word is in like every second sentence hehe...
On December 14 2011 08:04 Yxes2211 wrote: How JD go 10-0 against Bisu on Bnet and then look so shaky against toss in televised matches T_T
Anyway, great interview :D Good to see TBLS is now a complete circle of friendship lol
Televised matches are different from practice games. There are plenty of quotes from gamers that prove that what goes on broadcasted games aren't neccessarily the best indication of a gamer's talent for the game. Jaedong has always been a force to be reckoned with during practice, even before his epic rise to glory around 2007. It's the reason why I paid attention to him, even back when Savior was more highly rated.
Progamers play each other all the time, and know when a player just happens to be a on a hot streak, got lucky with the brackets or had more time to practice for a certain match. Class is permanent, and I never heard anything but the highest praise for Jaedong be it from Flash, Hiya, Bisu, Killer or Zero when it comes to his skill for the game during practice.
On December 14 2011 07:53 rotinegg wrote: oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
One of the most important piece of information I gathered from this fantastic interview is not how highly Jaedong is regarded (didn't we all hear how Jaedong simply does not lose to protoss during practice from various sources), but how highly Zero is regarded by top gamers such as Bisu. I think it's very telling that the first gamers that came to Bisu's mind after his practice session was Jaedong and Zero.
Any Zero fans around in the house? I simply adore the guy, he's been my favourite zerg these days along with Jaedong for quite some time. There are various ways to win, but to grind out win after win during practice without resorting to any cute trickery or mind games that you might prepare for televised games (or prepared for by various coaches in the case of some teams) against a gamer of the highest calibre such as Bisu..... that takes monstrous talent that I can't see many gamers doing.
On December 14 2011 07:53 rotinegg wrote: oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
I could not resist Bisu ... and I am straight!
It already was rampant when the OP is about Bisu homie.
TBLS interviews are always so captivating, it's so interesting to see what kind of relationship they have between each other. Glad to see Bisu and the Dong gets along so well! Thanks for the translation!
On December 14 2011 07:53 rotinegg wrote: oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
I could not resist Bisu ... and I am straight!
It already was rampant when the OP is about Bisu homie.
JD=I want his good looks and popularity. Of course I have a lot of fans who love me. But for me it's just within the progaming world. A lot of random girls come up to Bisu and ask for his number while drinking. He must have a lot of girls and I am jealous. Bisu=Why are you doing this to me. There are a lot of rumors about you too (laughs). I have my sources too (laughs). JD=Wait. Let's not do this to each other (laughs). Bisu=You started it (laughs). And what's wrong with meeting girls (laughs). JD=Please edit out what I just said (laughs).
Lmaoo so funny ^^;; glad to see jaedong and bee suit finally getting along~
Ah, this made me laugh so much. Especially the bisu part "Recently I was playing on a server where a lot of progamers frequent, and I went 0-10 against this one player. I thought he was really good and guessed it was either Jaedong or ZerO. I just couldn't beat him. He was too good". I can't imagine being that good and then getting killed by a smurf account. Especially if there are only two people in the world good enough to be the smurf.
Bisu=Recently I was playing on a server where a lot of progamers frequent, and I went 0-10 against this one player. I thought he was really good and guessed it was either Jaedong or (Z)ZerO. I just couldn't beat him. He was too good. I thought that if this isn't Jaedong or Zero, our team must sign him immediately. I kept asking him who he was, but he wouldn't say. I was really curious, but then Alone came and said 'This is Jaedong's smurf account.' I was once again reminded of Jaedong's greatness. JD=I had no idea that was you (laughs). But more importantly, I'm going to have a word with Alone for leaking such secrets (laughs). Bisu=From that day on, I knew Jaedong was really good. I really couldn't think of a way to beat him at the time. JD=You embarrass me. Why can't you lose to me like that in broadcasted matches (laughs). Bisu=I get a surge of confidence when I know I'm playing against Jaedong for some reason (laughs).
this was my fav part. I'm gay for JD, his play is just so handsome. JD is so good even Bisu is impressed. Reminds me of the Ewing/Bird friendship. They impress each other with their talent. It's beautiful :D
I really just don't get what this "the fans want them to be friends so we have to make them" stuff is all about. One of the reasons I could never be a progamer (even if I had their gosu skills)...
Oh god, I feel like such a little girl laying on my bed giggling to myself about what good friends Bisu and Jaedong are. Better go do something macho to regain my manhood.
This interview is exactly why I hope BW never dies. These are some of the best interviews and I hope they continue in this very in depth, dedicated style. I think that would be a great new avenue for BW. More in depth things with the teams and players. Just interviews, video diaries, streams. I know it's unlikely, but I would easily pay for a subscription to something like that here in the states.
I liked this interview, they seemed to mesh well now, but the pictures need to be censored, there's too much hotness in it. TOO MUCH! Imagine if Stork just happened to come by, this interview would have been x-rated.
Thanks for the translation <3 can't wait for part two. Sometimes I wish they would film interivews
Edit: When I first saw the title on the sidebar I was certain someone had bumped the old interview, I'm glad that wasn't the case
On December 14 2011 11:35 phyren wrote: Oh god, I feel like such a little girl laying on my bed giggling to myself about what good friends Bisu and Jaedong are. Better go do something macho to regain my manhood.
Ah man that was an awesome interview. Bisu really revealed his personality here. Thank you Jaedong. And thank you for beating Bisu so much in practice that he owns everyone in televised games.
I hope this means they team up to find out how to beat Flash in a BoX. Hahaha that kid is just unstoppable.
We definitely need more of that, okay someone needs to tell them to start filming their interviews That reminds me of the pics in the nada's body thread lol + Show Spoiler +
bisu is so handsome............................................. too bad he's so awkward about things that aren't videogames. I bet if it wasn't for starcraft he'd be a model or some kind of idol. that jd on a smurf story is pretty funny. can't wait til part 2.
The two cuties of BW! hah! The main reason they never warmed up to each other before is that their matchups are so brutal. The best PvZ so there is a bit of negative space between them that needed to be broken. Im glad theyre friends now
On December 14 2011 07:45 ZoW wrote: maybe this will create some harmony between the Bisu and JD fans on TL.
Oh who am I kidding we would still slash each others throats in a heartbeat
Ahahahaha no I'm a Bisu and Jaedong fan~ My name proves that I'm a wholehearted Bisu fan, and ever since Flash started winning, I've been a Jaedong fan. I think it was WCG when Jaedong beat Bisu in the ro4 in the international play with 5 hatch hydra where I really didn't like him. Ever since then, (when he beat stork with 5 hatch hydra) I've liked him~
OH MY GOD. This article was fucking amazing, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so many good parts. Favorites were definetely 1. Bisu ordering the most expensive steak on the menu 2. Jaedong realizing he'd just gone 10-0 against Bisu in practice
On December 14 2011 13:09 1Eris1 wrote: OH MY GOD. This article was fucking amazing, ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh so many good parts. Favorites were definetely 1. Bisu ordering the most expensive steak on the menu 2. Jaedong realizing he'd just gone 10-0 against Bisu in practice
Bisu and JD... together?! My pants cannot stay on! JD is just so handsome and Bisu is just so sexy. Thank you for the translation and I'm looking forward to part 2.
Something strikes me as strange about the facial expressions in the opening picture...exudes awkward silence.
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: Unlike other players in TBLS, which includes the four best SC players of this generation, Jaedong and Bisu were never good friends. Eventually, it got to the point where fans of e-sports started a movement wanting them to become friends.
Whats wrong with staying respecting rivals? It all sounds so forced to me.
On December 14 2011 15:44 sheaRZerg wrote: Something strikes me as strange about the facial expressions in the opening picture...exudes awkward silence.
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: Unlike other players in TBLS, which includes the four best SC players of this generation, Jaedong and Bisu were never good friends. Eventually, it got to the point where fans of e-sports started a movement wanting them to become friends.
Whats wrong with staying respecting rivals? It all sounds so forced to me.
What's forced about it? They've often said over the years that they'd like to get closer to each other, but just never had the opportunity. Then their mutual friends decided to take them out drinking so they'd get to know each other better. Sounds like something my friends would do. And now that they've become good friends, the interviews become more enjoyable and natural as well. I like this a LOT more than their first interview together in '09... Jesus that was awkward.
On December 14 2011 15:44 sheaRZerg wrote: Something strikes me as strange about the facial expressions in the opening picture...exudes awkward silence.
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: Unlike other players in TBLS, which includes the four best SC players of this generation, Jaedong and Bisu were never good friends. Eventually, it got to the point where fans of e-sports started a movement wanting them to become friends.
Whats wrong with staying respecting rivals? It all sounds so forced to me.
Probably because every single TBLS were good friends with each other except jaedong x bisu so fandom wants them to be on good terms too..
That said my liking of bisu just jumped by a notch, i just hope both of them gives exciting and even games in broadcasted matches T_T
On December 14 2011 15:44 sheaRZerg wrote: Something strikes me as strange about the facial expressions in the opening picture...exudes awkward silence.
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: Unlike other players in TBLS, which includes the four best SC players of this generation, Jaedong and Bisu were never good friends. Eventually, it got to the point where fans of e-sports started a movement wanting them to become friends.
Whats wrong with staying respecting rivals? It all sounds so forced to me.
What's forced about it? They've often said over the years that they'd like to get closer to each other, but just never had the opportunity. Then their mutual friends decided to take them out drinking so they'd get to know each other better. Sounds like something my friends would do. And now that they've become good friends, the interviews become more enjoyable and natural as well. I like this a LOT more than their first interview together in '09... Jesus that was awkward.
I didn't mean to imply that they weren't per se. I am saying I am surprised to hear that fans would expect it to be the case. If anything I would be more likely to think that fans would take two celebrated competitors to be more bitter rivals than they actually were (since that is the context in which the fans would most often see them together.)
Forever the skeptic...I also dont really trust what people say in interviews to be the truth ... I mean Bisu losing 10 times in a row, come on, not even Jaedong ... I would also expect both of them to have gotten better at interviews in general since '09.
edit: Of course I am projecting...it pains me every time I see JD lose in their matchups and want to think he is ruthlessly cold in his determination to overcome :D
Man thanks for the this. They are my two favorite players. I like Jaedong the most cuz I am a Zerg fan boy and Bisu for just being in class of his own when it comes down to PvZ, so much respect.
BTW I thought I read somewhere they have gotten closer since this years Blizzcon. Maybe the are really becoming close =)
lol awesome interview, they really seem like friends now
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: Unlike Jaedong, who took his time choosing his dish, Bisu picked something right away. He chose the most expensive steak dish. He said, "I know you journalists are rich" and innocently ate away at his filet mignon. I know that a lot of progamers have little knowledge of wages outside of the progaming world, but was Bisu really that oblivious, or was he just pretending to be so he could eat his steak with a clear conscience?
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DES=Bisu is ahead in head-to-head's. A lot of fans have been asking about that.
Bisu=I knew they would ask that. I was hoping you would be smart enough to filter those questions.
part 2 :x :x :x Oh the sisiter, I bet JD will certainly not introduce her to Bisu if he has one And JD vs Bisu in OSL Final plzzzz \m/ + Show Spoiler +
Bisu=Let's practice hard so we can face each other in the OSL finals this season. JD=Yea let's. I want to produce awesome games on the biggest stage of e-sports.
Bisu=Well I guess I would have to say no, too (laughs). I feel like he would meet other women while seeing my sister (laughs). You know how successful guys tend to be (laughs).
Hahaha yowchhh, BURN to Jaedong there
Thanks for translating this awesome interview! It's great to see that Bisu and Jaedong are close friends now and that they've overcome their former mutual awkwardness with each other lol. So much bromance lmfao. It was interesting to read how Bisu is on a massive losing streak to Jaedong in practice but having a winning record against him in live broadcast matches.
I feel so much better now especially since SKT just lost, everything is all better now
Really enjoyed the interview, these parts were pretty funny + Show Spoiler +
DES=If you had a younger sister would you introduce each other to her?
JD=If I had a younger sister I would control her from her school years right up until she married. I would not let her meet any guy and keep a keen eye on her. I'm not so sure how Bisu treats his women…. Bisu=I guess that's a no then (laughs). JD=That's not what I meant, you definitely meet the bar. You're rich and handsome so you would be a hundred times better than an average guy off the street. I just meant I wouldn't let any guy near her if I had a sister. Bisu=Well I guess I would have to say no, too (laughs). I feel like he would meet other women while seeing my sister (laughs). You know how successful guys tend to be (laughs). JD=This is false (laughs). We agreed not to do this to ourselves! Bisu=I was just talking about successful guys in general (laughs). If I get a younger sister, or a daughter, I'm going to set a strict curfew. Hearing about stories of people being sold off as slaves or being buried alive in secluded mountains in the news scares me so much. This world is not a kind place. JD=So how are you going to make up for the damage you've done to my image (laughs). Bisu=Again, I was talking about successful guys in general, not you specifically (laughs).
Bisu=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous. JD=I thought he was good looking. He is undeniably handsome (laughs). Bisu=I can't agree with that sentiment. I personally think RuBy is very good looking. He's also tall [Ruby is about 6'0.5" while Bisu is 5'9"]. JD=I can't talk about looks in front of Bisu. He is in another class. Bisu=My face is more refined and sharp, while Jaedong has a softer appeal. At first I thought it was a very cutsie face but the more I see him the more he exudes a soft and manly charm. JD=I personally love Bisu's laugh (laughs). People spell it out like 'Uh-hung-hung-hung' and I think it's very cute. Bisu=I lost my laugh because people kept making fun of it. JD=Why it's so cute! Bisu=See. Even you're making fun of it (laughs). JD=No seriously I'm not making fun of you, I think it's cute (laughs).
Get a room guys
DES=One of Jaedong's fans asked what it feels like to have a large male fan-base.
JD=I guess they aren't fans of me, but rather my games, right? (laughs). I think a lot of male fans joke around about being gay for me (laughs). [T/N: I hope he visits TL one day] Bisu=I've never seen it but I guess it would be kind of creepy (laughs). JD=I sometimes get fan-mail from male fans. Bisu=Really? I've never. JD=I assumed all progamers received fan-mail from male fans, but then I asked my Hwaseung teammates and they all said that they hadn't either. I guess you don't either. Bisu=I don't even think there was ever a progamer around me that said that he received letters from male fans. JD=Well I'm still thankful (laughs).
Bisu=My eyes are prettier (laughs).
Oh bisu lol <3
JD vs Bisu OSL finals would be so good (but unfortunately one would have to lose ) We need more interviews like this, much more. Makes my fanboy heart flutter :D
On December 14 2011 15:44 sheaRZerg wrote: Something strikes me as strange about the facial expressions in the opening picture...exudes awkward silence.
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: Unlike other players in TBLS, which includes the four best SC players of this generation, Jaedong and Bisu were never good friends. Eventually, it got to the point where fans of e-sports started a movement wanting them to become friends.
Whats wrong with staying respecting rivals? It all sounds so forced to me.
What's forced about it? They've often said over the years that they'd like to get closer to each other, but just never had the opportunity. Then their mutual friends decided to take them out drinking so they'd get to know each other better. Sounds like something my friends would do. And now that they've become good friends, the interviews become more enjoyable and natural as well. I like this a LOT more than their first interview together in '09... Jesus that was awkward.
I didn't mean to imply that they weren't per se. I am saying I am surprised to hear that fans would expect it to be the case. If anything I would be more likely to think that fans would take two celebrated competitors to be more bitter rivals than they actually were (since that is the context in which the fans would most often see them together.)
Forever the skeptic...I also dont really trust what people say in interviews to be the truth ... I mean Bisu losing 10 times in a row, come on, not even Jaedong ... I would also expect both of them to have gotten better at interviews in general since '09.
edit: Of course I am projecting...it pains me every time I see JD lose in their matchups and want to think he is ruthlessly cold in his determination to overcome :D
Well think about this way: the fanbase is actually largely female, and if you know anything about fangirls, you'll know we definitely prefer players being cute and BFF with each other than bitter rivals. We love the silly banter about girlfriends and drinking constitution and how they're jealous of each other's looks and whatever else they feel like talking about. Which makes this interview pretty much a dream come true. In the booths, they may want to destroy each other, but outside of it, they're two adorable and amicable guys of the same age that have known each other for years. Truthfully, I'd have thought they'd have been good friends a long time ago, just like they are with Stork and Flash. What happens in the games don't necessarily affect how their relationships to each other are; Stork has been crushed in OSL finals by both Jaedong and Flash, but he's still close to both of them, and sometimes jokes about losing to them. I enjoy Bisu's rivalry with Stork (if you can count being 0-5 against him these last two years as a rivalry ><), but every time I see them hang out and be friends, it makes me ridiculously happy (speaking of which, it's almost Christmas! When are we getting our annual Taekbang interview? hehe). It's just fangirl mentality ^^
DES=If Jaedong and Park Wan Gyu [T/N: Famous rock singer in Korea, big advocate of E-sports] were drowning, who would Bisu save?
Bisu=I can't swim so I would drown too if I tried (laughs). I would do my best to save both (laughs).
Looks like we're gonna need a Flash around to save all three of them lol. Then Bisu will have to knock Flash out of the OSL to thank him for saving his life :D
And yes~! Jaedong vs. Bisu for the next OSL finals pleeeease.
Damn, I need that mental capabilities JD is talking about when drinking. Isn't it the elves in the LOTR that can drink like immense amounts of alcohol without dropping the ball? >_<
Thanks so much for the second part! This is truly the best interview that I've read, Jaedong was fast becoming one of my favourite players (mainly because he's in Team 8 and I like everyone in there) but this cements it
Ha, Jaedong also likes Me Too flower!, its a good drama, but it has harsh competition from Deep Roots and Man of Honor, a bit sad that it has low rating too, but I like it too!.
hmmm, i think justin bieber is still a little bit cuter!
on a serious note ... most awkward interview i have read in quite some time. korea is still so different when it comes to progamers. imagine this kind of fan questions with naniwa and thorzain ^^
oh man, I hope this article completely overtakes the Naniwa thing. I mean this interview is WAYYYYYY better than what's been going on on twitter for the last 24 hrs
On December 15 2011 00:27 FidoDido wrote: oh man, I hope this article completely overtakes the Naniwa thing. I mean this interview is WAYYYYYY better than what's been going on on twitter for the last 24 hrs
unless it starts getting a TL page per minute, i dont see that happening. i was kind of hoping for something else in this article, but i guess it's just a matter of time
So much JD pictures *_* I need a kleenex before reading the whole interview. Thanks so much for the whole translation, i'll finish reading it later ! ;p
Soooo... I was the only one reading this interview mainly cause I hoped Jaedong would cry a bit over the loss of his (should have been) best friend HiyA? (not only ofc, but mainly.)
Wow, amazing interview - so candid and not as dry as most progamer interviews are! Im glad we got to see more of their personalities thank you for translating!!
How much I would hate being a star progamer. e-sport journalist organizing date with other player who have to become your friends so they can write articles. That's sad.
wow great interview, i would say my love for both these guys increased but it's already on max for the longest time, so fun!
SKT - Team8 finals with game 5 Bisu JD gogogo
On December 15 2011 01:56 Biff The Understudy wrote: How much I would hate being a star progamer. e-sport journalist organizing date with other player who have to become your friends so they can write articles. That's sad.
huh? the 'becoming friends' part was mainly Kyuhyun it seemed to me? this was just an interview meet-up, i even like doing it non-chalantly like this over the more forced atmosphere of press room stuff?!
On December 15 2011 01:06 Fydor wrote: I always give my wife shit for gawking over the trashy celebrity magazines... but when I read stuff like this I just giggle and laugh and love it.
Jaedong and Bisu fighting!
Omg this is so true with me too! I always laugh at my girlfriend when she comes over reading Us Weekly or like People or whatever those vacuous celeb-watches call themselves, but I guess this is the SCBW equivalent, right?
Great interview, thanks to the translator for putting it up here.
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: Bisu=I was just talking about successful guys in general (laughs). If I get a younger sister, or a daughter, I'm going to set a strict curfew. Hearing about stories of people being sold off as slaves or being buried alive in secluded mountains in the news scares me so much. This world is not a kind place.
where did this come from lol? honestly wtf is bisu talking about here? Anyways, like many other people here, I giggled and laughed and loved the gossip.........I understand other people now. I blame bisu's eyes.
DES=One of the fans asked about your nose, Bisu; should we skip it? (laughs).
Jaedong=I personally don't think Bisu's nose is that big. It looks good on screen and he is really good looking in real life, too. There is a certain angle where he looks especially good, and whenever the camera man shows that angle I'm just awed by his looks. His nose isn't all that big when you see him in real life. Bisu=I think it's better than having a nose that's too small (laughs).
On December 15 2011 02:38 awwnuts07 wrote: Soooo....I'm confused since I'm new to the BW scene. Are the peeps in Korea hoping for some kind of bromance?
Imagine that a good part of the korean fanbase is girl between 14 and 18, and that the bw community on TL is starved for interaction with pro that live half a world away. That's what you get when esport gets mainstream. So basically yeah. Plus let's be honest, Jaedong is soooo cute, cutie cutie cuuutieeee.
On December 15 2011 02:38 awwnuts07 wrote: Soooo....I'm confused since I'm new to the BW scene. Are the peeps in Korea hoping for some kind of bromance?
Imagine that a good part of the korean fanbase is girl between 14 and 18, and that the bw community on TL is starved for interaction with pro that live half a world away. That's what you get when esport gets mainstream. So basically yeah. Plus let's be honest, Jaedong is soooo cute, cutie cutie cuuutieeee.
Thanks for the explanation. But I thought it was Bisu was the fangirl favorite, not JD?
On December 15 2011 02:38 awwnuts07 wrote: Soooo....I'm confused since I'm new to the BW scene. Are the peeps in Korea hoping for some kind of bromance?
Imagine that a good part of the korean fanbase is girl between 14 and 18, and that the bw community on TL is starved for interaction with pro that live half a world away. That's what you get when esport gets mainstream. So basically yeah. Plus let's be honest, Jaedong is soooo cute, cutie cutie cuuutieeee.
Thanks for the explanation. But I thought it was Bisu was the fangirl favorite, not JD?
On December 15 2011 02:01 AIOL! wrote: Through all this interview i couldn't not mind the gayness of this stuff :D Seriously this was weird, the weirdest interview i ever read -_-
C.S. Lewis would say that you do not know real friendship; that you are afraid of appearing gay to peers, or possibly even being gay yourself.
I'm not saying anything about you particularly, I'm just saying that it's sad most cultures have lost what it means to be have true friendship, U.S. included.
Great interview. It's always really interesting to see how males comment on each others looks in Korea. I know I don't sit around and say how manly and cute my friends are. It's kinda cool actually. Thanks!
On December 15 2011 02:38 awwnuts07 wrote: Soooo....I'm confused since I'm new to the BW scene. Are the peeps in Korea hoping for some kind of bromance?
Imagine that a good part of the korean fanbase is girl between 14 and 18, and that the bw community on TL is starved for interaction with pro that live half a world away. That's what you get when esport gets mainstream. So basically yeah. Plus let's be honest, Jaedong is soooo cute, cutie cutie cuuutieeee.
Thanks for the explanation. But I thought it was Bisu was the fangirl favorite, not JD?
Bisu probably has more fans on TL with JD as #2.
so by the powers combined!
Ya, don't know why but some people think Bisu is better / more handsome than JD.
I always wonder how "natural" these interviews and "movements" and oh they happened to bump into each other are, haha
Nonetheless, it is always entertaining to see these, as it is a reminder of how big esports has gotten -- to the point where we want to know such trivial things as who's friends with who
omg this was such a good interview!! thanks so much for the translation! JD shouldn't be surprised at girls asking for bisu's number, even i'd go up to bisu and ask for his number
Just like all Korean interviews… BORING… I appreciate the effort but the questions were so bad and the answers were terrible. It’s like too little girls playing patty cake.
Tournament interviews: What is your goal at this tournament? - “I want to play my best for my fans, I love you all, and I hope to win this with all my heart”
This interview: - “you are sooo good looking” –JD - “no you AAARe!!” –Bisu - “not as much as you!” –JD - “noooo but you are sooo coooool!” –Bisu - “I’m jealous of you!” -JD
Bisu=Let's practice hard so we can face each other in the OSL finals this season. JD=Yea let's. I want to produce awesome games on the biggest stage of e-sports.
Just like all Korean interviews… BORING… I appreciate the effort but the questions were so bad and the answers were terrible. It’s like too little girls playing patty cake.
Tournament interviews: What is your goal at this tournament? - “I want to play my best for my fans, I love you all, and I hope to win this with all my heart”
This interview: - “you are sooo good looking” –JD - “no you AAARe!!” –Bisu - “not as much as you!” –JD - “noooo but you are sooo coooool!” –Bisu - “I’m jealous of you!” -JD
you're trying too hard this is not INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM 101 this is just two progamers hanging out and realying it to us fans, and it's glorious
On December 15 2011 08:11 Acasta wrote: Why no question about SC2? If they will change the game once the time is there or retire? Or which race they would play?
Probably because they've been asked about SC2 a billion times, and we're tired of it, and it's not relevant to the subject matter: their friendship. Check their older interviews if you really want to know.
DES=One of Jaedong's fans asked what it feels like to have a large male fan-base.
JD=I guess they aren't fans of me, but rather my games, right? (laughs). I think a lot of male fans joke around about being gay for me (laughs). [T/N: I hope he visits TL one day]
On December 15 2011 09:59 GenesisX wrote: Jaedong interview! :D <3 thank you for translating, pretty interesting to see Bisu 0-10 Jaedong on a smurf account O-o
i think jaedong would be surprised how popular and beloved he actually is 'round these parts, and we even send him stuff!
well that sounded like it was a bit in the past? also FrOzean liked to brag about trashing Bee in training too, and see how that goes in PL ;P but who are we fooling, JD is beastly, not even bisu can contain that
Argh I clicked on your spoiler without thinking and my first thought wasn't 'Oh no, SKT lost' but 'Oh no, that means Bisu probably lost.'
On December 14 2011 19:11 Hyde wrote: omg part 2 was even better, thank you so much rotinegg for translating it,+ Show Spoiler [PL spoilers] +
I feel so much better now especially since SKT just lost, everything is all better now
Really enjoyed the interview, these parts were pretty funny + Show Spoiler +
DES=If you had a younger sister would you introduce each other to her?
JD=If I had a younger sister I would control her from her school years right up until she married. I would not let her meet any guy and keep a keen eye on her. I'm not so sure how Bisu treats his women…. Bisu=I guess that's a no then (laughs). JD=That's not what I meant, you definitely meet the bar. You're rich and handsome so you would be a hundred times better than an average guy off the street. I just meant I wouldn't let any guy near her if I had a sister. Bisu=Well I guess I would have to say no, too (laughs). I feel like he would meet other women while seeing my sister (laughs). You know how successful guys tend to be (laughs). JD=This is false (laughs). We agreed not to do this to ourselves! Bisu=I was just talking about successful guys in general (laughs). If I get a younger sister, or a daughter, I'm going to set a strict curfew. Hearing about stories of people being sold off as slaves or being buried alive in secluded mountains in the news scares me so much. This world is not a kind place. JD=So how are you going to make up for the damage you've done to my image (laughs). Bisu=Again, I was talking about successful guys in general, not you specifically (laughs).
Bisu=I was scared (laughs). The force emanating from his facial expression was so manly that I was even a little jealous. JD=I thought he was good looking. He is undeniably handsome (laughs). Bisu=I can't agree with that sentiment. I personally think RuBy is very good looking. He's also tall [Ruby is about 6'0.5" while Bisu is 5'9"]. JD=I can't talk about looks in front of Bisu. He is in another class. Bisu=My face is more refined and sharp, while Jaedong has a softer appeal. At first I thought it was a very cutsie face but the more I see him the more he exudes a soft and manly charm. JD=I personally love Bisu's laugh (laughs). People spell it out like 'Uh-hung-hung-hung' and I think it's very cute. Bisu=I lost my laugh because people kept making fun of it. JD=Why it's so cute! Bisu=See. Even you're making fun of it (laughs). JD=No seriously I'm not making fun of you, I think it's cute (laughs).
Get a room guys
DES=One of Jaedong's fans asked what it feels like to have a large male fan-base.
JD=I guess they aren't fans of me, but rather my games, right? (laughs). I think a lot of male fans joke around about being gay for me (laughs). [T/N: I hope he visits TL one day] Bisu=I've never seen it but I guess it would be kind of creepy (laughs). JD=I sometimes get fan-mail from male fans. Bisu=Really? I've never. JD=I assumed all progamers received fan-mail from male fans, but then I asked my Hwaseung teammates and they all said that they hadn't either. I guess you don't either. Bisu=I don't even think there was ever a progamer around me that said that he received letters from male fans. JD=Well I'm still thankful (laughs).
Bisu=My eyes are prettier (laughs).
Oh bisu lol <3
JD vs Bisu OSL finals would be so good (but unfortunately one would have to lose ) We need more interviews like this, much more. Makes my fanboy heart flutter :D
On December 15 2011 12:38 Shortynut wrote: I don't suppose anyone can tag the pictures to point out who is who? I don't know either of these guys but am interested to check out their games.
On December 15 2011 12:38 Shortynut wrote: I don't suppose anyone can tag the pictures to point out who is who? I don't know either of these guys but am interested to check out their games.
On December 15 2011 09:59 GenesisX wrote: Jaedong interview! :D <3 thank you for translating, pretty interesting to see Bisu 0-10 Jaedong on a smurf account O-o
i think jaedong would be surprised how popular and beloved he actually is 'round these parts, and we even send him stuff!
well that sounded like it was a bit in the past? also FrOzean liked to brag about trashing Bee in training too, and see how that goes in PL ;P but who are we fooling, JD is beastly, not even bisu can contain that
I think it might have only been a month or two ago, because it sounds like it was after Alone/Princess transferred to SKT.
Lolololol man its funny how Korea is so vast in acceptance in the same sex without being called gay or w/e still makes for hella funny odd moments and friendships as seen before in hyun-jeong becomes a pro-gamer. Loved the article and bw a long time or transfering to sc2 soon. I heard a rumor that most teams are going over to sc2 cuz of the lack of kespa events and sc2 rakes in hella dough.
On December 15 2011 18:32 TL-TyranT wrote: Lolololol man its funny how Korea is so vast in acceptance in the same sex without being called gay or w/e still makes for hella funny odd moments and friendships as seen before in hyun-jeong becomes a pro-gamer. Loved the article and bw a long time or transfering to sc2 soon. I heard a rumor that most teams are going over to sc2 cuz of the lack of kespa events and sc2 rakes in hella dough.
nah not yet the sc2 scene is still tiny in korea compared to sc1 so sc1 is still the one that rakes in hella dough while sc2 blows - might change in a year or two though
On December 15 2011 18:32 TL-TyranT wrote: Lolololol man its funny how Korea is so vast in acceptance in the same sex without being called gay or w/e still makes for hella funny odd moments and friendships as seen before in hyun-jeong becomes a pro-gamer. Loved the article and bw a long time or transfering to sc2 soon. I heard a rumor that most teams are going over to sc2 cuz of the lack of kespa events and sc2 rakes in hella dough.
Haha yeah. I know a few Korean dudes and they sit on each other's laps and shit hahaha.
i think maybe western culture is sometimes just grossly homophobic.
On December 14 2011 07:53 rotinegg wrote: oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
It's inevitable, just let it happen (even disregarding the fact that two good looking progamers basically just went on a date...)
On December 14 2011 07:53 rotinegg wrote: oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
Nice leather gracket.. They are so uptight about their choice of words, lol. But I think they did well, all things considered. Now I think they should make one with Flash and Stork. They are both much more laid back so it could be quite hilarious.
On December 15 2011 18:32 TL-TyranT wrote: Lolololol man its funny how Korea is so vast in acceptance in the same sex without being called gay or w/e still makes for hella funny odd moments and friendships as seen before in hyun-jeong becomes a pro-gamer. Loved the article and bw a long time or transfering to sc2 soon. I heard a rumor that most teams are going over to sc2 cuz of the lack of kespa events and sc2 rakes in hella dough.
Haha yeah. I know a few Korean dudes and they sit on each other's laps and shit hahaha.
i think maybe western culture is sometimes just grossly homophobic.
it's definitely worse in South Korea, they just don't consider it an option so guys being more open w/each other is accepted
Bisu tries to play it korean-humble, but Jaedong is too realistic for that bs, and outright says - you are the best protoss, I'm the best zerg, that's how it is. This is incredibly nice to read, thank you so much.
On December 14 2011 07:53 rotinegg wrote: oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
It's inevitable, just let it happen (even disregarding the fact that two good looking progamers basically just went on a date...)
Don't be sad and take a gulp of the Nada's body thread. You will be better.
As a westerner I'm receiving strong gay vibes from parts of this interview. But apparently, as I've read, behavior like that is pretty common among platonic male friends in Korea.
Either we're just homophobic as fuck around here or there are like so many more homosexual people in the west than in Korea that you can legitimately expect someone to be gay under certain circumstances.
Ermace - I think we are indeed homophobic as fuck. It's crazy how dudes in general react to even the smallest signs of affection by other dudes. On a sidenote - I love BW and all, but the stuff they're talking is really numb. "Real" friends wouldn't talk like that. At least I wouldn't.
On January 13 2012 18:16 pAnJayK wrote: Jaedong has remarkable sense of fashion. o_o' <3
No kidding. Do these guys have stylists? Are they that big of a deal? Because they look absolutely awesome. Going for the JD look myself next time I'm out shopping (which is almost never, need to work on that).
On December 14 2011 07:22 rotinegg wrote: JD=Alone said SKTelecom T1 is no fun because you guys just practice in silence. Bisu=He did? Well I guess there's some truth to that (laughs).
Hyuk: Damn you, Ssak, you f****g cheeser! Ssak: What? It was a normal timing push noob! Hyuk: It wasnt, it was a god damn proxy, bitch! Ssak: stfu and lern to play! Hyuk: oh you little peace of sh.... Fantasy: SILENCE!!! I'll KILL YOU!!! [Hyuk & Ssak keep silent all day]
On December 14 2011 07:53 rotinegg wrote: oh god not this again... it took less than a page of replies for TL's rampant homosexuality to permeate this thread
You created a thread with pictures two of the sexiest guys known. They're also SC megastars. And we're an SC Forum.
On January 14 2012 02:24 Anvil666 wrote: Ermace - I think we are indeed homophobic as fuck. It's crazy how dudes in general react to even the smallest signs of affection by other dudes. On a sidenote - I love BW and all, but the stuff they're talking is really numb. "Real" friends wouldn't talk like that. At least I wouldn't.
They are progamers from different teams, and they are asians. They seem pretty close to me. It's not like they can hit the gym or get drunk together 3x a week.
The website warned you not to bump the thread without a good reason... do not bump threads that have been inactive for a long time (now indicated by the gray header over posts) just to say you found something funny.
EPT
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