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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-29 12:58:25
October 25 2011 17:24 GMT
#1
Hiya's dad passes away

On October 26 2011 02:31 OpticalShot wrote:
Hiya'd dad passed away. I was reading article about how players, coaches, and teams were already planning to attend funeral / offer condolences.

*edit: RIP.


Source: fomos


New Proleague maps heavily anti-Protoss!?

http://vimeo.com/31016124

Recently, Stork, Jangbi, Best, Bisu, Horang2 and Movie met up for a small chit-chat. Stork, Jangbi, Bisu, Horang2 and Best started off by complaining about the new maps to be used in the upcoming Proleague season. Bisu wanted to complain about the maps during broadcast, but Stork said it'll be too late to change the maps by then. They all complained that they are heavily zerg favored in PvZ, while for PvT, as usual, it's Terran favored (lol). Jangbi stated that it may be because 3 years ago, the mapmaker went to Khan for advice, and his maps all ended up being heavily toss-favored, and thus, he does not trust the team for map balancing advice anymore. Bisu, during the discussion of carriers vs arbiters, commented that carriers take too much micro to use, while arbiters just require one spell cast.

Source: fomos


Netizen's general consensus about Proleague matches' frequency and other issues

The results were somewhat similar to the polls on TL.

60% of the 2720 netizens who voted said yes to 5 days a week, bo7 format, while 12.5% said 5 days, bo5, 17.7% said 3 or 4 days, bo5 while the rest voted misc.

out of 2535 people who voted on the winners' league issue, 51.1% said keep the current WL format (2 rounds of winners' league), while 40.1% said revert it back to 1 round format, while the other 7.7% said take it out of proleague, and remaining 1.1% voted misc.

with regards to SC2, 48.9% (or 1345 voters, out of 2752 voters) said no to SC2 completely, while the other options - "SC2 slowly integrated", "implement SC2 straightaway" and "misc" - got 34.2%, 16.0% and 0.9% votes respectively.

source: fomos


KT Rolster and Woongjin Stars to have combined workshop

The two teams will be going tto O2 Resort (somewhere in Gangwondo, Tae-bek) from the 26th to 28th to enhance teamwork skills and such. Interesting how it's a two-team workshop instead of individual ones.

Source: Daily E-Sports

Update: Apparently, they played soccer. Light's team vs Reach's team. Reach's team smashed light's team 4:3.


Hydra to get lasik

On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye. (T/N: false info, it's actually on the good eye, but it's deteriorated)

source:DES


On October 28 2011 02:47 OpticalShot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 02:35 Weedk wrote:
On October 27 2011 22:31 supernovamaniac wrote:
On October 27 2011 19:54 Sephy90 wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?

His one eye was fucked up when he was little (we don't know what happened)

His other eye has been bad for quite a while now.


So he's just maintaining his useful eye?

Hydra's LASIK is on his "good" eye, not the damaged one. Because he's been solely relying on one eye for intense usage like SCBW, his eyesight is degrading on that good eye. Before he put on a lens he could barely tell what's going on in the minimap. He put on that lens and he had his recent surge as #1 Zerg (sigh JD get your act together).

So he's doing that LASIK on the good eye to see better without the lens. I'm not sure whether it helps him preserve his eyesight longer or whatever.


Update: Hydra's surgery went successfully. He may even be able to start playing normally in 2 weeks!


BW to not have B.Net shutdown

On October 28 2011 02:47 OpticalShot wrote:
In other news, looks like the Shutdown Regulation will be edited to exclude Blizzard games. I don't have any official statements but there are articles on the usual sites (Fomos, DES, TIG, PlayXP, etc. blablabla) that report that Family Women's Council will make the necessary edits to exempt Blizzard's classic games from the regulation. The tricky thing is that this raises the question whether SC2 should also be exempt (for now it seems like it'll still be affected) as well, since it falls under the same category of "packaged, CD-installed games" but the user's age can be checked.
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Armathai
Profile Joined October 2007
1023 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 18:47:38
October 25 2011 17:29 GMT
#2
Thanks for the news,

Edit: RIP HIYA'S DAD

I really wonder how the Proleague maps will turn out.
I tend to find Protoss' complain about everything beforehand anyway
We'll seee though

Pretty harsh on the SC2 side, guess we might be seeing less of it afterall, especially if MBC steps down and OGN is broadcasting everything alone.

Cheers Kona
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amazingoopah
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1925 Posts
October 25 2011 17:30 GMT
#3
haha, bisu thinks carriers take too much micro to use, bet he would be happy to hear that in HOTS they've been scrapped!
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 17:32:33
October 25 2011 17:31 GMT
#4
Hiya'd dad passed away. I was reading article about how players, coaches, and teams were already planning to attend funeral / offer condolences.

*edit: RIP.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 17:34:41
October 25 2011 17:32 GMT
#5
After how well Protosses did in Proleague, I'm not surprised they are making the mappool rather anti-Protoss. Gonna be like 09-10 Season all over again rofl

I do hope they at least keep Circuit Breaker in the mappool, that map was great
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XsebT
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Denmark2980 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 17:37:17
October 25 2011 17:34 GMT
#6
Holy dream team dragons! X_X

Thanks for the update, kona.
Really wanna see the maps though!

Wait, why is yellow in that workshop pic? Old or is he just still associated with kt?
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garlicface
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada4196 Posts
October 25 2011 17:36 GMT
#7
60% of the 2720 netizens who voted said yes to 5 days a week, bo7 format, while 12.5% said 5 days, bo5, 17.7% said 3 or 4 days, bo5 while the rest voted misc.

This was disappointing. Should've had the option to vote for 3-4 days a week, Bo7.
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Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
October 25 2011 17:36 GMT
#8
RIP Hiya's dad. He might now be the sole breadwinner of the household. Time to bring that WL form into every tourney Hiya.
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 17:39:01
October 25 2011 17:37 GMT
#9
On October 26 2011 02:24 konadora wrote:
Hiya's dad hospitalized.

No reasons were given, but the address to the hospital where his father is warded in was posted on fomos. Hoping for a speedy recovery.

Source: fomos



Wait... are you sure? I thought he already passed away. There are already tons of RIP comments, and I thought 부고 meant obituary. I mean, hopefully, I'm wrong and you're right. But either way, poor Hiya ;~;

EDIT: Nevermind, you updated it.

My condolences to Hiya and his family.
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m4gdelen4
Profile Joined October 2008
United States416 Posts
October 25 2011 17:38 GMT
#10
RIP Hiya's dad... maybe he can find strength in his grief like Nada did and destroy everyone when PL starts
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konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 25 2011 17:38 GMT
#11
On October 26 2011 02:37 seraphe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 02:24 konadora wrote:
Hiya's dad hospitalized.

No reasons were given, but the address to the hospital where his father is warded in was posted on fomos. Hoping for a speedy recovery.

Source: fomos



Wait... are you sure? I thought he already passed away. There are already tons of RIP comments, and I thought 부고 meant obituary. I mean, hopefully, you're wrong and I'm right. But either way, poor Hiya ;~;

EDIT: Nevermind, you updated it.

My condolences to Hiya and his family.


i mis-read it, my bad
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Zergneedsfood
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States10671 Posts
October 25 2011 17:44 GMT
#12
Condolences to Hiya.
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Sillylaughs
Profile Joined April 2010
Canada198 Posts
October 25 2011 17:48 GMT
#13
RIP.
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
October 25 2011 17:50 GMT
#14
Nonono, maps being finalized story was this:

Bisu: We need to say it during broadcast

Stork: No, the maps will be finalized by then.
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Lucumo
Profile Joined January 2010
6850 Posts
October 25 2011 17:51 GMT
#15
Poor Hiya

Hm, so only Movie didn't complain?

Anyway, thanks for the news.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 25 2011 17:53 GMT
#16
On October 26 2011 02:50 supernovamaniac wrote:
Nonono, maps being finalized story was this:

Bisu: We need to say it during broadcast

Stork: No, the maps will be finalized by then.

argh, sorry. lots of translation mistakes, pretty late at night @__@
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surfinbird1
Profile Joined September 2009
Germany999 Posts
October 25 2011 18:00 GMT
#17
Thanks for the translation! I actually wouldn't mind to see protoss doing well. I'm sick of ZvZ in the later stages of a starleague.
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fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 25 2011 18:00 GMT
#18
RIP hiya's dad



thanks for the summary konadora.

Yea, I expected that result in the SC2 poll !

Protoss always getting screwed by the map pool....
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a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
October 25 2011 18:04 GMT
#19
the pictures from the toss meet up ... so sexy
starleague forever
Grettin
Profile Joined April 2010
42381 Posts
October 25 2011 18:05 GMT
#20
RIP.

I'm worried how unbalanced the maps actually are. Thanks for the news kona<3
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 25 2011 18:16 GMT
#21
RIP hiya's dad...
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Emon_
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
3925 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 17:47:46
October 25 2011 18:27 GMT
#22
RIP Hiya's dad... So sad for Hiya.

Thanks for the updates konadora
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blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
October 25 2011 18:48 GMT
#23
RIP Hiya's dad


And Bisu always complains over imbalance.
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corumjhaelen
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
France6884 Posts
October 25 2011 18:50 GMT
#24
Pretty sad for Hiya, always seemed to be such a nice guy :/ RIP to his dad
Tosses complaining about maps, nothing new under the sun.
Bisu complaining about micro, pretty funny.
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chaosTheory_14cc
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Canada1270 Posts
October 25 2011 19:50 GMT
#25
RIP Hiya's father.

I guess we'll just have to see how the maps turn out come PL season. And it would be great to get some pics of the KT/Woonjin workshop when they come out.

Thanks konadora!
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 25 2011 19:57 GMT
#26
Protoss are never happy unless the maps are exactly right for them.. they specifically said they wanted to make some 'original' maps, but you can't do that and keep all the P's happy. And personally i'd rather have some interesting maps rather than say, 6 different Neo-Aztecs or something. Like what's an unusual map that is good for P? I'm guessing they will always want a map with totally secure natural for Forge FE, relatively easy 3rd for PvZ (oh but not too easy cause of those damn turtle Terran's) and a middle layout which is fairly open with no small passages. That's some pretty limiting factors surely.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 20:36:07
October 25 2011 20:35 GMT
#27
6 Protoss players get together for a chat, and the conclusion they come up with is... these maps should be improved for Protoss!

What a surprise?
FlaShFTW
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States10162 Posts
October 25 2011 20:41 GMT
#28
Hiya's dad... T.T RIP.

lmao not good for protoss? remember protoss plains??? cough cough lol.
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intotheheart
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada33091 Posts
October 25 2011 20:59 GMT
#29
RIP.
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Telcontar
Profile Joined May 2010
United Kingdom16710 Posts
October 25 2011 21:05 GMT
#30
RIP Hiya's dad and Protoss in Proleague.
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Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
October 25 2011 21:06 GMT
#31
RIP, may his passing away help you become the Bonjwa you are destined to be
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Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
October 25 2011 21:11 GMT
#32
Poor Hiya

RIP
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Skeggaba
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Korea (South)1556 Posts
October 25 2011 21:12 GMT
#33
When does PL and OSL actually start? Im getting anxious here!
Also, rip hiyas dad TT
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BroodWarHD
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
136 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-25 22:16:35
October 25 2011 22:13 GMT
#34
On October 26 2011 02:51 Lucumo wrote:
Poor Hiya

Hm, so only Movie didn't complain?

Anyway, thanks for the news.

Well, Movie is known for being the most bad ass protoss on the scene. Surprising to hear bisu lament about PvZ imbalance though.

On October 26 2011 04:57 infinity2k9 wrote:
Protoss are never happy unless the maps are exactly right for them.. they specifically said they wanted to make some 'original' maps, but you can't do that and keep all the P's happy. And personally i'd rather have some interesting maps rather than say, 6 different Neo-Aztecs or something. Like what's an unusual map that is good for P? I'm guessing they will always want a map with totally secure natural for Forge FE, relatively easy 3rd for PvZ (oh but not too easy cause of those damn turtle Terran's) and a middle layout which is fairly open with no small passages. That's some pretty limiting factors surely.

They need open mid and a lot of easy to guard(from speedlings) edge bases, like central plains.. thats basically the only type of map that can favour P in both pvz and pvt so it is understandable that they are complaining
ninini
Profile Joined June 2010
Sweden1204 Posts
October 25 2011 22:16 GMT
#35
I hope they will add some smaller maps. It seems like every map looks like Fighting Spirit nowadays and it's getting a bit old.
Megaliskuu
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States5123 Posts
October 25 2011 22:25 GMT
#36
RIP Hiya's Dad

Thx for keeping us updated kona!
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Torenhire
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States11681 Posts
October 25 2011 22:31 GMT
#37
On October 26 2011 02:36 garlicface wrote:
Show nested quote +
60% of the 2720 netizens who voted said yes to 5 days a week, bo7 format, while 12.5% said 5 days, bo5, 17.7% said 3 or 4 days, bo5 while the rest voted misc.

This was disappointing. Should've had the option to vote for 3-4 days a week, Bo7.


RIP Hiya's dad..

And I agree with this, too much stuff going on 5 days a week.


More disappointing is 2 rounds of winner's league... -_-
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trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
October 25 2011 22:47 GMT
#38
RIP Hiya dad.

and thanks for the updates. I'm really appreciate it.
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Arterial
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Australia1039 Posts
October 26 2011 00:10 GMT
#39
RIP Hiya's father.

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Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
October 26 2011 00:10 GMT
#40
RIP.
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red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 00:54:49
October 26 2011 00:54 GMT
#41
My condolensces to Hiya's family. Mr. Ku raised a good son indeed.

As far as the proleague maps go, I'm always skeptical when people claim maps are bad for their own race but it wouldn't surprise me if the dragons were telling the truth. IMO if anything map makers should lean towards being more anti-zerg. Too much ZvZ in the individual leagues last year for my taste.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 01:09:46
October 26 2011 01:08 GMT
#42
Same, my heart goes to Hiya's family. I hope they always keep him in there heart.

Well, technically the "new" 6 Dragons speaks. I would at least hear them out, because if they aren't just saying for there own sake, than they have a point. If it isn't just PvZ, as PvT than too, they need to re-look at it fast. Also, Bisu, you have one of the best Micro in game, why are you complaining about mircoing Carriers -.- But than again... I mean Bisu had always found a way to punish Zergs regardless of maps so... I mean take his word against Zergs with a grain of salt
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Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
October 26 2011 01:13 GMT
#43
Dang, seems like many OZ members are having bad news...RIP Hiya's dad, hope he gets over this fast and continues to beast
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Profile Joined December 2010
Australia2107 Posts
October 26 2011 01:29 GMT
#44
Really sad to hear about Hiya's dad. I hope his family is coping well. Thanks for the news though!
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
October 26 2011 01:31 GMT
#45
Hopefully Hiya can keep his head up while playing the game. I would be devastated. I don't want to this face+ Show Spoiler +
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Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
October 26 2011 01:46 GMT
#46
On October 26 2011 04:57 infinity2k9 wrote:
Protoss are never happy unless the maps are exactly right for them.. they specifically said they wanted to make some 'original' maps, but you can't do that and keep all the P's happy.


Troy? Plasma? Monty Hall? All have some semi-island nature to them that zergs hate though.

That said, if these maps truly are "original", I don't think protosses should complain right now. Because it takes a while for strategies to truly develop, and race imbalance may not be apparent at first. But if the maps are still cookie-cutter maps with some whacky pathing, then they would be legit in their complaints.
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endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
October 26 2011 01:48 GMT
#47
Thanks, Kona !


Jangbi stated that it may be because 3 years ago, the mapmaker went to Khan for advice, and his maps all ended up being heavily toss-favored, and thus, he does not trust the team for map balancing advice anymore


The 6 dragons isn't a mystery anymore. Jangbi and Stork had rigged the maps !
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c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11286 Posts
October 26 2011 02:20 GMT
#48
On October 26 2011 10:48 endy wrote:
Thanks, Kona !


Show nested quote +
Jangbi stated that it may be because 3 years ago, the mapmaker went to Khan for advice, and his maps all ended up being heavily toss-favored, and thus, he does not trust the team for map balancing advice anymore


The 6 dragons isn't a mystery anymore. Jangbi and Stork had rigged the maps !

Keep it down, we don't want this conspiracy being uncovered...

Also, thanks for sharing kona!
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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9021 Posts
October 26 2011 16:45 GMT
#49
R.I.P Hiya's dad.
ElusoryX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Singapore2047 Posts
October 26 2011 17:11 GMT
#50
nice to see 2 teams collaborating
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Daudr
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden275 Posts
October 26 2011 17:43 GMT
#51
RIP Hiya's dad.

Interesting poll regarding SC2. Completely split, almost 50% don't want to anything to do with it and 50% would like to see it in Proleague, in one form or another.

Love these small updates btw! Don't keep up too much with the BW world nowadays so these are always appreciated.
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Ideas
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
United States8104 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 17:54:26
October 26 2011 17:53 GMT
#52
that's too bad about hiya's dad :\
I hope hiya can continue the good play he started to show again during STX masters.

still no word on when the new season starts / 8th team announcement?
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nimdil
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Poland3748 Posts
October 26 2011 18:04 GMT
#53
LoL. It seems Mecca of E-Sport (as Tasteless is calling S.Korea and for a reason) is not really ready for SC2 to become as mainstream as Brood Wars are.
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Profile Joined December 2010
United States297 Posts
October 26 2011 18:06 GMT
#54
protoss gets no love from the mapmakers :|

at least maps are not forced upon them via ladder matches
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Sweden1535 Posts
October 26 2011 18:06 GMT
#55
RIP =( Who is the guy standing behind Yellow?
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Profile Blog Joined July 2010
New Zealand9115 Posts
October 26 2011 18:09 GMT
#56
RIP =( No mention of his age?

More than 50% voting for SC2 in proleague is kinda surprising - not as hated/refused as it's often made out.
"You seem to think about this game a lot"
TzaTzers
Profile Joined April 2009
United States589 Posts
October 26 2011 18:21 GMT
#57
I like the little protoss convention to talk about how they might fare in the upcoming season.

RIP Hiya's dad =(
"Why did the colossus fall over? because he was imbalanced..."
Rain...
Profile Joined September 2010
United States201 Posts
October 26 2011 18:23 GMT
#58
RIP hiyas dad.. hes one of my fav players
I'm just waiting for people to start asking me to make the rain disappear. David Copperfield
HolydaKing
Profile Joined February 2010
21254 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 18:30:59
October 26 2011 18:28 GMT
#59
On October 27 2011 03:09 Jehct wrote:
RIP =( No mention of his age?

More than 50% voting for SC2 in proleague is kinda surprising - not as hated/refused as it's often made out.

Exactly what i thought, isn't that a poll on a SCBW biased site anyway? I thought Fomos is mostly SCBW. On such a site i would've thought 80% would vote against SC2.

(Though i just saw that they have a SC2 section as well. Still i always thought it's one of the main korean scbw sites and i don't think that's the case for SC2)
mtn
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
729 Posts
October 26 2011 18:30 GMT
#60
On October 27 2011 03:09 Jehct wrote:
RIP =( No mention of his age?

More than 50% voting for SC2 in proleague is kinda surprising - not as hated/refused as it's often made out.


Ya. That's what I was thinking.

50% is pretty cool ~~
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
October 26 2011 18:35 GMT
#61
Aww man, R.I.P. HiyA's dad...

I'm surprised that many Korean netizens said SC2 is slowly being integrated actually. I mean I agree, but I didn't think that many Koreans did.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
October 26 2011 18:43 GMT
#62
My condolences for Hiya. =(

And my gosh, the tosses looking classy as hell in that meetup. It would seem that the mapmakers don't like how a Protoss won the last OSL, so they're going to take it out on all protosses in PL. =P
I like haikus and / I can not lie. You other / brothers can't deny
Stuv
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
Netherlands942 Posts
October 26 2011 18:47 GMT
#63
RIP Hiyas dad. ;(
Crisium
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States1618 Posts
October 26 2011 18:48 GMT
#64
Ugh, I hope the maps aren't anti-Protoss. We get enough of that from the OSL's goofball maps.
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Amlitzer
Profile Joined August 2010
United States471 Posts
October 26 2011 19:01 GMT
#65
Have they actually released any info or pictures of the new maps they are talking about yet? Also, sorry to hear about Hiya's dad.
"Not even justice, I want to get truth!"
Kdog3wa
Profile Joined May 2011
Sweden40 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 19:13:48
October 26 2011 19:09 GMT
#66
Protoss QQ.. Disgusting.
Thorzain, MMA, Moon & Nerchio. Also, I hate protoss.
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
October 26 2011 19:31 GMT
#67
thank you for the news.

rest in peace, hiya's dad.
^^
Ghostface_Killa
Profile Joined March 2011
United States168 Posts
October 26 2011 19:40 GMT
#68
Toss having it rough on both sides of the border T_T

With nearly 50% of the voters favoring the implementation of SC2, I expect to see a SC2 ProLeague pretty soon. I wonder how that will conflict with GSTL.
Arrested for what, baby? Being awesome?
Manimal_pro
Profile Joined June 2010
Romania991 Posts
October 26 2011 20:03 GMT
#69
i came to this thread looking forward for information regarding the teamless players.... just have to wait more :|
If you like brood war, please go play brood war and stop whining about SC2
Piege
Profile Joined October 2009
United Kingdom128 Posts
October 26 2011 20:43 GMT
#70
R.I.P. Hiya's dad.

Just waiting for ProLeague and last ever MSL to continue.
Never_V_ -> Fin
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
October 26 2011 21:04 GMT
#71
Condolences to Hiya.
darkness overpowering
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
October 26 2011 21:04 GMT
#72
On October 26 2011 02:30 amazingoopah wrote:
haha, bisu thinks carriers take too much micro to use, bet he would be happy to hear that in HOTS they've been scrapped!

There's like no micro involved with using SC2 carriers...
Hello
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
October 26 2011 21:10 GMT
#73
RIP Haya's father ):
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Kal_rA
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
United States2925 Posts
October 26 2011 21:12 GMT
#74
RIP Haya's dad
Jaedong.
BobTheBuilder1377
Profile Joined August 2011
Somalia335 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 08:39:58
October 26 2011 21:19 GMT
#75
Edit: I need reading glasses :<
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 21:34:27
October 26 2011 21:30 GMT
#76
On October 26 2011 07:16 ninini wrote:
I hope they will add some smaller maps. It seems like every map looks like Fighting Spirit nowadays and it's getting a bit old.


You and I must not be watching the same games...Pathfinder? Aztec? Bloody Ridge? Alternative? Beltway? Icarus? Monte Cristo? The only map that's really kindddaaa similar to Fighting Spirit's macrofest is Circuit Breaker...which is a map I love.
So close, and yet so far
Stipulation
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States587 Posts
October 26 2011 21:49 GMT
#77
Jangbi so cute! Nobody has put subtitle on it yet have they?
Daudr
Profile Joined November 2009
Sweden275 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-26 22:32:14
October 26 2011 22:30 GMT
#78
On October 27 2011 06:19 BobTheBuilder1377 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 04:40 Ghostface_Killa wrote:
Toss having it rough on both sides of the border T_T

With nearly 50% of the voters favoring the implementation of SC2, I expect to see a SC2 ProLeague pretty soon. I wonder how that will conflict with GSTL.


What?

"with regards to SC2, 48.9% (or 1345 voters, out of 2752 voters) said NO to SC2 completely, while the other options - "SC2 slowly integrated", "implement SC2 straightaway" and "misc" - got 34.2%, 16.0% and 0.9% votes respectively."


34.2 + 16 = 50.2%, would eventually like to see SC2 in one form or another in Proleague.
☜(゚ヮ゚☜)
Caos2
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1728 Posts
October 26 2011 22:45 GMT
#79
Thanks for the news! Can't wait the new season!
bokchoi
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Korea (South)9498 Posts
October 26 2011 22:47 GMT
#80
Poor HiyA.. its going to be so weird seeing him with his spirits down. He's always so giddy and happy looking. RIP.
reincremate
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
China2213 Posts
October 26 2011 22:52 GMT
#81
I'm glad the PL format is the same.
Superouman
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
France2195 Posts
October 26 2011 22:57 GMT
#82
What are the new proleague maps? I couldn't google them :/
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GenesisX
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Canada4267 Posts
October 26 2011 23:03 GMT
#83
RIP Hiyas dad
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Wolf
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Korea (South)3290 Posts
October 27 2011 00:38 GMT
#84
KT/Woongjin partnership is intriguing...
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chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
October 27 2011 01:10 GMT
#85
well.... if maps are gonna be disadvantageous for protoss, I hope individual league maps are the exact opposite ^___^

in BW mapmakers are gods
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
nalho
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States351 Posts
October 27 2011 02:01 GMT
#86
Man RIP Hiya's dad.
i'm jung/i translate bw sometimes
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 27 2011 02:35 GMT
#87
On October 27 2011 07:57 Superouman wrote:
What are the new proleague maps? I couldn't google them :/

i dont think there will be maptests this season, so expect them to be released only when the PL season starts
POGGERS
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
October 27 2011 02:54 GMT
#88
On October 27 2011 11:35 konadora wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 07:57 Superouman wrote:
What are the new proleague maps? I couldn't google them :/

i dont think there will be maptests this season, so expect them to be released only when the PL season starts

I thought they were doing maptests offline or something....
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 27 2011 03:01 GMT
#89
On October 27 2011 11:54 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 11:35 konadora wrote:
On October 27 2011 07:57 Superouman wrote:
What are the new proleague maps? I couldn't google them :/

i dont think there will be maptests this season, so expect them to be released only when the PL season starts

I thought they were doing maptests offline or something....

as in those broadcasted ones, like the one they did last season
POGGERS
sheaRZerg
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States613 Posts
October 27 2011 03:20 GMT
#90
On October 27 2011 06:30 Assymptotic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 07:16 ninini wrote:
I hope they will add some smaller maps. It seems like every map looks like Fighting Spirit nowadays and it's getting a bit old.


You and I must not be watching the same games...Pathfinder? Aztec? Bloody Ridge? Alternative? Beltway? Icarus? Monte Cristo? The only map that's really kindddaaa similar to Fighting Spirit's macrofest is Circuit Breaker...which is a map I love.


I wouldn't go as far to say that they all look the same...but I have to agree that the maps are seem to be on the large side nowadays...the last interesting smallish map I can remember is matchpoint. Most of the recent 2p maps are pretty much large enough to be 4p.
"Dude, just don't listen to what I say; listen to what I mean." -Sean Plott
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 27 2011 03:35 GMT
#91
On October 27 2011 12:20 sheaRZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 06:30 Assymptotic wrote:
On October 26 2011 07:16 ninini wrote:
I hope they will add some smaller maps. It seems like every map looks like Fighting Spirit nowadays and it's getting a bit old.


You and I must not be watching the same games...Pathfinder? Aztec? Bloody Ridge? Alternative? Beltway? Icarus? Monte Cristo? The only map that's really kindddaaa similar to Fighting Spirit's macrofest is Circuit Breaker...which is a map I love.


I wouldn't go as far to say that they all look the same...but I have to agree that the maps are seem to be on the large side nowadays...the last interesting smallish map I can remember is matchpoint. Most of the recent 2p maps are pretty much large enough to be 4p.

recent 2p maps:
bloody ridge
alternative
monte cristo

of these, 2 are the same dimensions as match point? and pathfinder is considered small since a lot of the outer parts of the maps aren't used.
POGGERS
jyLee
Profile Joined August 2009
United States350 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 04:19:35
October 27 2011 04:18 GMT
#92
IMO Hiya news should be in a seperate thread. Seems a bit silly to be complaining about map balance in the same thread with much more serious/depressing news.
Ciryandor
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3735 Posts
October 27 2011 04:27 GMT
#93
Hiya's Dad RIP.
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Subversive
Profile Joined October 2009
Australia2229 Posts
October 27 2011 04:34 GMT
#94
On October 27 2011 13:18 jyLee wrote:
IMO Hiya news should be in a seperate thread. Seems a bit silly to be complaining about map balance in the same thread with much more serious/depressing news.

I can't find it just now, but I think there is a separate thread about Hiya's dad iirc.
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BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 05:16:17
October 27 2011 05:15 GMT
#95
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES
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SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
October 27 2011 05:36 GMT
#96
Hiya's father RIP ㅠㅠ
Hope the new Proleague season will be huge!
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
October 27 2011 06:03 GMT
#97
I really hope hiya doesn't slump because of this... sad because it might happen...

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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 27 2011 06:14 GMT
#98
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES


Really? I thought he said it wasn't possible o-o

"In a dual interview on the 23rd with Fantasy of SKT, Hydra revealed that, 'One of my eyes can only see object's outlines, and I can't do lasik or anything on it. I play with one eye.'"

Good luck to him then.
Writer:o
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
October 27 2011 06:20 GMT
#99
Didn't Hiya and Jaedong trick leta into thinking that the coach was Jaedong's dad?
RIP.
WL should be reduced to i still firmly believe.
☺
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
October 27 2011 06:20 GMT
#100
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES


So first we lose the Chintoss, and now we lose the Cyclops Zerg? Say it ain't so.

Actually this is kinda scary. Hydra is a top 3 zerg and was on par with Jaedong most of 2011. Imagine how good he'd be with 2 eyes 0_0
rasers
Profile Joined February 2010
Sweden691 Posts
October 27 2011 07:16 GMT
#101
dont think it will affect his game so much. will be pretty much the same. u can cover the whoel screen with one eye : )
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
October 27 2011 07:50 GMT
#102
On October 26 2011 10:46 baubo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 26 2011 04:57 infinity2k9 wrote:
Protoss are never happy unless the maps are exactly right for them.. they specifically said they wanted to make some 'original' maps, but you can't do that and keep all the P's happy.


Troy? Plasma? Monty Hall? All have some semi-island nature to them that zergs hate though.

That said, if these maps truly are "original", I don't think protosses should complain right now. Because it takes a while for strategies to truly develop, and race imbalance may not be apparent at first. But if the maps are still cookie-cutter maps with some whacky pathing, then they would be legit in their complaints.

battle royal? what a ridiculous map
PineappleLumpsToss
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand2434 Posts
October 27 2011 08:15 GMT
#103
Thanks for the update, though it's tinged with sadness with the news about Hiya's father (may he R.I.P).

You've gotta love map balance discussions. The new Dragons trying their best to influence things - I'd expect no less from professionals.

Not long now before my beloved BW returns....your days are limited evil off-season!
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 27 2011 08:25 GMT
#104
Hiya's dad shocking news =[
bgx
Profile Joined August 2010
Poland6595 Posts
October 27 2011 10:25 GMT
#105
On October 27 2011 16:16 rasers wrote:
dont think it will affect his game so much. will be pretty much the same. u can cover the whoel screen with one eye : )

widescreens coming
Stork[gm]
Sephy90
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States1785 Posts
October 27 2011 10:54 GMT
#106
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?
"So I turned the lights off at night and practiced by myself"
Kanil
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1713 Posts
October 27 2011 12:57 GMT
#107
HiyA...

Poor guy, hope he's doing alright...
I used to have an Oz icon over here ---->
supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
October 27 2011 13:31 GMT
#108
On October 27 2011 19:54 Sephy90 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?

His one eye was fucked up when he was little (we don't know what happened)

His other eye has been bad for quite a while now.
ppp
garbanzo
Profile Joined October 2009
United States4046 Posts
October 27 2011 13:32 GMT
#109
Poor HiyA.

Thanks for the keeping us updated on these miscellaneous BW-related news.
Even during difficult times, when I sat down to play the game, there were times where it felt like god has descended down and played [for me].
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51454 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 13:36:26
October 27 2011 13:36 GMT
#110
O2 Resort is where they held a round of the IOPS OSL Ro8, if that matters.
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Necosarius
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Sweden4042 Posts
October 27 2011 14:48 GMT
#111
RIP Hiyas dad
Nefariously
Profile Joined December 2010
277 Posts
October 27 2011 15:09 GMT
#112
On October 27 2011 22:31 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 19:54 Sephy90 wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?

His one eye was fucked up when he was little (we don't know what happened)

His other eye has been bad for quite a while now.

Liquipedia says that eye was damaged involving an accident with broken glass.
now ask me if i care
Censor
Profile Joined March 2011
United States122 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 15:15:52
October 27 2011 15:14 GMT
#113
GL to Hydra with his surgery! And my thoughts are with Hiya, I lost my dad when I was younger, so i know what he's going though. Rest in peace.
Fantasy | Hydra | Flash
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
October 27 2011 17:35 GMT
#114
On October 27 2011 22:31 supernovamaniac wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 19:54 Sephy90 wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?

His one eye was fucked up when he was little (we don't know what happened)

His other eye has been bad for quite a while now.


So he's just maintaining his useful eye?
OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 17:55:00
October 27 2011 17:47 GMT
#115
On October 28 2011 02:35 Weedk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 27 2011 22:31 supernovamaniac wrote:
On October 27 2011 19:54 Sephy90 wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?

His one eye was fucked up when he was little (we don't know what happened)

His other eye has been bad for quite a while now.


So he's just maintaining his useful eye?

Hydra's LASIK is on his "good" eye, not the damaged one. Because he's been solely relying on one eye for intense usage like SCBW, his eyesight is degrading on that good eye. Before he put on a lens he could barely tell what's going on in the minimap. He put on that lens and he had his recent surge as #1 Zerg (sigh JD get your act together).

So he's doing that LASIK on the good eye to see better without the lens. I'm not sure whether it helps him preserve his eyesight longer or whatever.

In other news, looks like the Shutdown Regulation will be edited to exclude Blizzard games. I don't have any official statements but there are articles on the usual sites (Fomos, DES, TIG, PlayXP, etc. blablabla) that report that Family Women's Council will make the necessary edits to exempt Blizzard's classic games from the regulation. The tricky thing is that this raises the question whether SC2 should also be exempt (for now it seems like it'll still be affected) as well, since it falls under the same category of "packaged, CD-installed games" but the user's age can be checked.
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Kiett
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States7639 Posts
October 27 2011 17:57 GMT
#116
On October 28 2011 02:47 OpticalShot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 02:35 Weedk wrote:
On October 27 2011 22:31 supernovamaniac wrote:
On October 27 2011 19:54 Sephy90 wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?

His one eye was fucked up when he was little (we don't know what happened)

His other eye has been bad for quite a while now.


So he's just maintaining his useful eye?

Hydra's LASIK is on his "good" eye, not the damaged one. Because he's been solely relying on one eye for intense usage like SCBW, his eyesight is degrading on that good eye. Before he put on a lens he could barely tell what's going on in the minimap. He put on that lens and he had his recent surge as #1 Zerg (sigh JD get your act together).

So he's doing that LASIK on the good eye to see better without the lens. I'm not sure whether it helps him preserve his eyesight longer or whatever.


Ah, that makes a lot more sense. But it's also really sad... One eye gone and the other one deteriorating due to the stress. Lasik is hardly a permanent solution
Writer:o
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
October 27 2011 18:06 GMT
#117
RIP Hiya's dad.
BearStorm
Profile Joined September 2010
United States795 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-27 18:17:29
October 27 2011 18:16 GMT
#118
Oh wow, I had no idea LASIK was so versatile. I hope it works out well for Hydra since he only has one eye to work with.
"Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
gn0m
Profile Joined January 2008
Sweden302 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-28 10:56:23
October 28 2011 10:55 GMT
#119
Wrong thread, sorry :/
-_-
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 28 2011 14:41 GMT
#120
sorry about the false info..
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3046 Posts
October 28 2011 14:49 GMT
#121
On October 28 2011 02:47 OpticalShot wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 28 2011 02:35 Weedk wrote:
On October 27 2011 22:31 supernovamaniac wrote:
On October 27 2011 19:54 Sephy90 wrote:
On October 27 2011 14:15 BLinD-RawR wrote:
in other news Hydra is getting LASIK(Laser eye surgery?) on his damaged eye.

source:DES

Oh it's actually repairable? When I heard about his eye the information that was given was kind of weird so I didn't fully know what was going on or I just read wrong. Either way this is great news if it's successful but I hope he can get used seeing with both eyes~ hasn't he been like this for a long time now?

His one eye was fucked up when he was little (we don't know what happened)

His other eye has been bad for quite a while now.


So he's just maintaining his useful eye?

Hydra's LASIK is on his "good" eye, not the damaged one. Because he's been solely relying on one eye for intense usage like SCBW, his eyesight is degrading on that good eye. Before he put on a lens he could barely tell what's going on in the minimap. He put on that lens and he had his recent surge as #1 Zerg (sigh JD get your act together).

So he's doing that LASIK on the good eye to see better without the lens. I'm not sure whether it helps him preserve his eyesight longer or whatever.

In other news, looks like the Shutdown Regulation will be edited to exclude Blizzard games. I don't have any official statements but there are articles on the usual sites (Fomos, DES, TIG, PlayXP, etc. blablabla) that report that Family Women's Council will make the necessary edits to exempt Blizzard's classic games from the regulation. The tricky thing is that this raises the question whether SC2 should also be exempt (for now it seems like it'll still be affected) as well, since it falls under the same category of "packaged, CD-installed games" but the user's age can be checked.


There was always a controversy whether old CD-installed games were going to be included in the shutdown system or not (there were rumors that CD-installed games won't be included in the regulation originally; however rumors are rumors so I didn't post that here).

Current games like SC2 will be regulated in such way so that 18+ years won't be banned after nightfall, because they need their Korean SSID to make an account.
ppp
MiraKul
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Malaysia498 Posts
October 28 2011 20:32 GMT
#122
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=280168

Will it be the end of BW PL? With so many teams might be moving on..
ovrpwrd
fabiano
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Brazil4644 Posts
October 28 2011 20:42 GMT
#123
Yeah... I'm feeling really awkward after reading it.. I'm sad and worried and enraged all at the same time.

It's not official yet and this wait is killing me. I wish we had translations from the korean community, what do they think about it? That poll showed that the majority of koreans are not interested in SC2, why would the teams and KeSPA switch then?
"When the geyser died, a probe came out" - SirJolt
Amanebak
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Czech Republic528 Posts
October 28 2011 22:23 GMT
#124
If there is any switch, it will hurt me so much that I even cannot describe it. I will leave.
I have still hope.
BW
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 28 2011 22:28 GMT
#125
On October 29 2011 07:23 Amanebak wrote:
If there is any switch, it will hurt me so much that I even cannot describe it. I will leave.
I have still hope.

My advice to you is to start downloading the MBCGame torrents if you haven't already done so.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
October 28 2011 22:47 GMT
#126
I'm confused about how the articles posted in this topic and the article on Fomos don't seem to connect. Bisu complains that the new Proleague maps aren't P favored but apparently they are all actually practicing SC2 for next season? I wish KeSPA would make an official statement so we could know exactly what is going on and why.

I feel sad.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
October 29 2011 03:58 GMT
#127
so hard watching a game ive loved for so many years start to fade away like this
im gay
lynx.oblige
Profile Joined August 2009
Sierra Leone2268 Posts
October 29 2011 04:00 GMT
#128
Wow, poor Hiya
Everyone needs a nemesis.
Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
October 29 2011 04:36 GMT
#129
When is SPL starting again?
☺
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 29 2011 04:48 GMT
#130
On October 29 2011 07:47 Pifualkd wrote:
I'm confused about how the articles posted in this topic and the article on Fomos don't seem to connect. Bisu complains that the new Proleague maps aren't P favored but apparently they are all actually practicing SC2 for next season? I wish KeSPA would make an official statement so we could know exactly what is going on and why.

I feel sad.


Proleague will still happen, anything else wouldn't make sense. There won't be a mass switch of all players either because it simply isn't viable; think how many pro's would be attempting to make a living from SC2 in total. Some A/B teamers who never won anything will be obviously be wanting to switch when they see the players who are winning money in SC2, problem is they are going to be disappointed when there's so much competition. I wouldn't be surprised as some players switching then coming back later, now they can stay in their team house after all.
RHCPgergo
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
Hungary345 Posts
October 29 2011 07:14 GMT
#131
How come only ~2700 netizens voted in those polls? I thought fomos had a bigger BW userbase. Was it always this small?
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2585 Posts
October 29 2011 07:20 GMT
#132
On October 29 2011 13:36 Release wrote:
When is SPL starting again?


When is the SPL all-stars? : D I iz excited for more relays and offraces
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 29 2011 07:23 GMT
#133
On October 29 2011 16:20 chongu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 29 2011 13:36 Release wrote:
When is SPL starting again?


When is the SPL all-stars? : D I iz excited for more relays and offraces

i have no idea T___T
POGGERS
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66163 Posts
October 29 2011 12:59 GMT
#134
Some minor updates:

Hydra's lasik surgery was successful, he will be able to play normally in 2 weeks.

About Woongjin and KT's combined workshop, a soccer tournament was held. Reach's team won Light's team 4:3, no surprises.
POGGERS
lokiM
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3407 Posts
October 29 2011 13:13 GMT
#135
thanx kona-kun~
sad month for hiya =[
You can't fight the feeling.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
October 29 2011 13:19 GMT
#136
On October 29 2011 21:59 konadora wrote:
Some minor updates:

Hydra's lasik surgery was successful, he will be able to play normally in 2 weeks.

About Woongjin and KT's combined workshop, a soccer tournament was held. Reach's team won Light's team 4:3, no surprises.


Light's team defense was invisible no?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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CobaltBlu
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States919 Posts
October 29 2011 16:04 GMT
#137
On October 29 2011 16:14 RHCPgergo wrote:
How come only ~2700 netizens voted in those polls? I thought fomos had a bigger BW userbase. Was it always this small?


People voting on a esports news site isn't representative of all the people who will watch BW or go to the games.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 10:08:05
October 30 2011 06:34 GMT
#138
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere and I missed it, but I found some additional news that doesn't seem to have been translated, so here it is. (Source: SC Times)

STX SouL players participate in volunteer activities
A total of 26 players and coaching staff from STX SouL's StarCraft and Special Force teams volunteered on the 19th as participants in STX Happy Volunteer Week. STX began this corporate volunteer program in late 2008 and has run it twice a year since. Activities this time included sidewalk repairs at Kyongbokkung. On the 22nd, they also took part in a walking marathon, part of STX's broad social activism program "Creating the World with Dreams and Future" [T/N: yes, this is the official name], at the Misari Regatta in Gyeonggi Province, completing a roughly 9.5km course. (Sources: 1, 2)

KT Rolster and Woongjin STARS hold joint workshop (some more details beyond what's in the OP)
The KT Rolster and Woongjin STARS teams met to hold a three-day workshop on the 26th. In the "Right/Wrong Quiz" [T/N: Not sure exactly what this is, but it's probably a competition where players are asked to guess whether a statement is right or wrong and those who answer incorrectly are eliminated until only one person is left] held on the first day, Woongjin STARS's Gosi[Flying] survived to the end and won a gift certificate. On the second day the teams scaled Hambaek Mountain, with KT's Crazy-Hydra reaching the summit first. The teams closed out the workshop with a friendly game of soccer. (Source)

Free undergoes wrist surgery
Woongjin STARS's Free has received surgery on his wrist and is currently recovering. "I've been suffering from wrist pain for quite a while now. I want to keep playing, so I decided on surgery," he said. "Apparently some of the cartilage there was damaged and unable to heal, so the purpose of the surgery was to remove that part. Since the procedure I haven't experienced any pain, so I'm happy I did it." (Source)

Flash's rehabilitation proceeding smoothly
[T/N: I only translated the part that isn't in the OP of the thread we have about this.] ..."Some of you might be worried about the fact I've put on some weight, but I'm doing my best to lose at least 7 kg before the new season starts and to get my arm back into peak condition so that I can give you even better performances than before and look great while doing it," Flash said in a message to his fans. (Source)
Caladbolg
Profile Joined March 2011
2855 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-30 08:08:36
October 30 2011 08:08 GMT
#139
On October 30 2011 15:34 gngfn wrote:
Sorry if this is posted elsewhere and I missed it, but I found some additional news that doesn't seem to have been translated, so here it is. (Source: SC Times)



Flash's rehabilitation proceeding smoothly
[T/N: I only translated the part that isn't in the OP of the thread we have about this.] ..."Some of you might be worried about the fact I've put on some weight, but I'm doing my best to lose at least 7 kg before the new season starts and to get my arm back into peak condition so that I can give you even better performances than before and look great while doing it," Flash said in a message to his fans. (Source)


I lost it there. Hahaha!

At least Bisu doesn't have to try. :D
"I don't like the word prodigy at all. To me prodigy sounds like a person who was 'gifted' all these things rather than a person who earned all these talents by hard training... I must train harder to reach my goal." - Flash
trexbqs
Profile Joined January 2011
Malaysia1731 Posts
October 30 2011 10:05 GMT
#140
On October 30 2011 15:34 gngfn wrote:


KT Rolster and Woongjin STARS hold joint workshop (some more details beyond what's in the OP)
The KT Rolster and Woongjin STARS teams met to hold a three-day workshop on the 26th. In the "Right/Wrong Quiz" [T/N: Not sure exactly what this is, but it's probably a competition where players are asked to guess whether a statement is right or wrong and those who answer incorrectly are eliminated until only one person is left] held on the first day, Woongjin STARS's Gosi[Flying] survived to the end and won a gift certificate. On the second day the teams scaled Hambaek Mountain, with Woongjin's Crazy-Hydra reaching the summit first. The teams closed out the workshop with a friendly game of soccer. (Source)
[)


Did CH is on KT now? By the way, thanks gngfn for the news I'm really appreciate it.

To Flash and Free, get well soon.
Learn,live and love it.
gngfn
Profile Joined January 2009
United States1726 Posts
October 30 2011 10:07 GMT
#141
On October 30 2011 19:05 trexbqs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 30 2011 15:34 gngfn wrote:


KT Rolster and Woongjin STARS hold joint workshop (some more details beyond what's in the OP)
The KT Rolster and Woongjin STARS teams met to hold a three-day workshop on the 26th. In the "Right/Wrong Quiz" [T/N: Not sure exactly what this is, but it's probably a competition where players are asked to guess whether a statement is right or wrong and those who answer incorrectly are eliminated until only one person is left] held on the first day, Woongjin STARS's Gosi[Flying] survived to the end and won a gift certificate. On the second day the teams scaled Hambaek Mountain, with Woongjin's Crazy-Hydra reaching the summit first. The teams closed out the workshop with a friendly game of soccer. (Source)
[)


Did CH is on KT now? By the way, thanks gngfn for the news I'm really appreciate it.

To Flash and Free, get well soon.

You're right. I forgot he switched somehow even though he played in the Proleague finals. It's been way too long since BW has been on... I'll fix the error.
sinistral
Profile Joined October 2010
Singapore859 Posts
October 30 2011 15:47 GMT
#142
On October 30 2011 15:34 gngfn wrote:
Flash's rehabilitation proceeding smoothly
[T/N: I only translated the part that isn't in the OP of the thread we have about this.] ..."Some of you might be worried about the fact I've put on some weight, but I'm doing my best to lose at least 7 kg before the new season starts and to get my arm back into peak condition so that I can give you even better performances than before and look great while doing it," Flash said in a message to his fans. (Source)


Silly Flash, you can't lose the weight of that new robotic arm implanted into you.
(´・ω・`)
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