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zeehar
Korea (South)3804 Posts
oh and i guess JD and beesuit are pretty cool too | ||
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nalgene
Canada2153 Posts
On October 27 2011 18:46 zaii wrote: why would destiny be playing a game he no longer plays lol You're missing the point. It's that Jaedong would destroy destiny if both are given the same amount of time to learn either game. ( that's what he meant anyways ) | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On October 27 2011 19:03 nalgene wrote: You're missing the point. It's that Jaedong would destroy destiny if both are given the same amount of time to learn either game. ( that's what he meant anyways ) With his FOOT! | ||
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leBIGcrab
France313 Posts
-BW stars switching to SC2 zomg? -BW vs SC2 -Bisu vs Warp -Fantasy vs Hellions -Destiny vs Jaedong? wtf guys. | ||
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nihoh
Australia978 Posts
On October 27 2011 12:04 eviltomahawk wrote: Red Alert 3 tried to copy a lot of design elements from the SC2 alphas in an attempt to capitalize on the pre-SC2 RTS market. IMO, it kinda felt like a hybrid between C&C3 and SC2, though it had an underwhelming release and fell victim to EA's lack of post-launch support as EA Los Angeles quickly moved on to rushing the disastrous C&C4 before being shut down entirely. I think most developers are just too scared to create a game that can compete with SC2 as an esporty, traditional RTS. SC2 has almost full control of this very niche market, and to compete with it would also mean trying to compete with Blizzard's extensive polish, production values, and post-launch support. It's cheaper and easier to just create a normal RTS through a more conventional design process rather than be burdened by trying to directly compete with SC2. Also, a lot of popular RTS franchises kinda killed themselves off in recent years. Rise of Nations was a great game and held a lot of promise as a franchise, but Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends turned out to be quite mediocre. Empire Earth held a lot of popularity as a franchise, but Empire Earth 3 was a complete disaster and pretty much killed off that franchise. Age of Empires sorta died after Ensemble shut down, and Age of Empires Online isn't really doing the franchise justice. Command and Conquer got forever tainted by C&C4 which caused EALA, the studio behind post-Westwood C&C games, to shut down, and there is almost no public info on the next C&C game hat is secretly in development. Supreme Commander dropped the ball with Sup Com 2, and it seems that the studio's next game, Kings and Castles, is Sup Com in a fantasy setting. Warcraft is on hold until next century, and SC3 the century after that. There is a chance that a smaller studio may pull off another Armies of Exigo, but without the support of a larger studio or publisher, it may inevitably be forgotten under the shadow of bigger names and franchises. Valve can pull off a good RTS if they put their hearts to it. They have the framework built already with DOTA2. Thats just the fan boy in me dreaming. | ||
Kiett
United States7639 Posts
On October 27 2011 20:28 leBIGcrab wrote: Thread history: -BW stars switching to SC2 zomg? -BW vs SC2 -Bisu vs Warp -Fantasy vs Hellions -Destiny vs Jaedong? wtf guys. You forgot: -In N Out | ||
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ReaperX
Hong Kong1758 Posts
Destiny vs Jaedong? | ||
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Herper
501 Posts
On October 27 2011 21:13 nihoh wrote: Valve can pull off a good RTS if they put their hearts to it. They have the framework built already with DOTA2. Thats just the fan boy in me dreaming. Or someone can make a Warcraft mod :D Imagine that, now dota is the standalone game lol | ||
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Bleak
Turkey3059 Posts
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
On October 27 2011 09:14 figq wrote: Weird reason for expensive travel - they could have realized how it's going over the Internet, watching some VODs and visiting TL. but if you show to KeSPA what is happening in the world, from first hand, maybe negotitations will start to go better and maybe KeSPA will recognize SC2. Blizzard saw that without KeSPA influence SC2 can't get to the level Blizzard wants. Just a game and just a players aren't enough | ||
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Samba
Germany452 Posts
On October 27 2011 20:28 leBIGcrab wrote: Thread history: -BW stars switching to SC2 zomg? -BW vs SC2 -Bisu vs Warp -Fantasy vs Hellions -Destiny vs Jaedong? wtf guys. Thanks for the summary. Saved me a lot of time.  | ||
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figq
12519 Posts
On October 27 2011 09:18 DeepBlu2 wrote: Weird by Blizzard, not by them.They were paid by Blizzard to go so why wouldn't you accept. They definitely enjoyed it though, and if they weren't interested to see how it is in the west, they wouldn't have gone... I'm really glad they had a good time but I don't think people have to worry about them switching anytime soon. They really were only there to see what Starcraft 2 was like in a tournament environment, especially in the west, because they were curious about it. Again, they obviously showed some interest. My point is, that's so weird, it might not be the full story, just the press story.  | ||
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blade55555
United States17423 Posts
On October 28 2011 04:10 figq wrote: Weird by Blizzard, not by them. My point is, that's so weird, it might not be the full story, just the press story. Well do note it is different being there in person then seeing on the internet with the chanting and everything . So it kind of makes since to show that esports isn't just solely in korea anymore for bw. | ||
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dementrio
678 Posts
On October 27 2011 11:49 beamer159 wrote: Although BW may be more accessible than SC2 in terms of hardware requirements, what worries me is that the opposite may be true in terms of operating systems. As it stands now, SC2 can definitely run on Windows 7 (granted that hardware requirements are met). However, I've heard horror stories of people desperately trying to get BW working correctly on Windows 7. Also, it appears that Blizzard is already cutting support for the newest Mac OSX. What if Blizzard does the same for the next Windows version and cuts support altogether? Then, BW would only work on outdated OSs, and I would imagine that it'd be pretty hard to grow a player base with that hurdle. This is why bw, and also sc2, are bound to die relatively quickly. No software, in general no proprietary technology, can outlive its support. This is also what makes me: perplexed when I see bw guys genuinely think that it can go on forever, and rage when sc2 guys don't realize that it is bound to die much, much quicker than bw because of deliberate design decisions. There is no solution to this, except dropping the idea of a game as an e-sport and instead accepting that e-sports is the game(s) of the moment, changing frequently. It's very naive to think that since bw is a better game, players will drop sc2 and go back to it. What will happen is that a new game will come out, and players will go from sc2 to the new game. | ||
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ArvickHero
10387 Posts
On October 28 2011 04:38 dementrio wrote: This is why bw, and also sc2, are bound to die relatively quickly. No software, in general no proprietary technology, can outlive its support. This is also what makes me: perplexed when I see bw guys genuinely think that it can go on forever, and rage when sc2 guys don't realize that it is bound to die much, much quicker than bw because of deliberate design decisions. There is no solution to this, except dropping the idea of a game as an e-sport and instead accepting that e-sports is the game(s) of the moment, changing frequently. It's very naive to think that since bw is a better game, players will drop sc2 and go back to it. What will happen is that a new game will come out, and players will go from sc2 to the new game. the community has and is still coming up with the support that Blizzard refuses to give. 3rd party patches fix the color issues, and there has been a patch in the works to solve the crux of the freezing problem (which there are stopgap solutions to anyways, like assigning core affinities and such). The community provided BW with playable maps when Blizzard's were just complete shit, and provided a REAL ladder when Blizzard's ladder was a complete joke. When hacks run rampant in bnet because of Blizzard's refusal to patch and police, the community came up with its own measures to successfully fight the hackers. BW has done just fine without Blizzard's support. | ||
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purgerinho
Croatia919 Posts
BW has done just fine without Blizzard's support. true.. Blizzard was always awful in terms of support and listening of the community. Do you remember patch 1.14? that was the day I started to realize what Blizzard trully is | ||
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Eishi_Ki
Korea (South)1667 Posts
That's all irrelevant though, as sad as I am to admit it, things will tend towards the newer game and in the end, e-sports will always be the winner which I suppose is a good thing. Let it be known though, Broodwar was the first. Never to be forgotten. | ||
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fencer
122 Posts
On October 27 2011 18:43 eviltomahawk wrote: against iNcontrol during MLG Columbus. This sounds interesting. Did Losira actually play with just one hand? Source? | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On October 28 2011 05:49 fencer wrote: This sounds interesting. Did Losira actually play with just one hand? Source? Apparently his keyboard died halfway through the game and he didn't ask for a pause.. Just continued to boss mode it against iNcontrol.. | ||
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ZAiNs
United Kingdom6525 Posts
On October 28 2011 05:49 fencer wrote: This sounds interesting. Did Losira actually play with just one hand? Source? Losira said so in an interview. Watch the game (Taldarim Altar, Losira vs Incontrol), Losira pools a stupid amount of money really early on and just plays awful, so it probably did happen. | ||
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