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Bisu, Jaedong, Jangbi, Fantasy to Blizzcon 2011 - Page 19

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.vid
Profile Joined July 2011
Croatia227 Posts
October 17 2011 21:07 GMT
#361
if they make jd, jb, fanta and bisu play sc2 i'll implode from rage
eujjjjj
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4367 Posts
October 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#362
On October 18 2011 06:05 aintz wrote:
they are probably paid to be there to promote sc2. i mean why not with sc2 getting more popular every day its about time for these pros to switch even.

kinda like valve paying pros to play dota2 and csgo.


Did you post with the single thought of seeing how many rage responses you'd get then say something like omg so trolled im so good?

Educate yourself a little bit before posting in such matters. If you knew a single thing about BW you'd see a ton of flaws in your post.
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
L_Master
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States8017 Posts
October 17 2011 21:08 GMT
#363
On October 18 2011 06:03 Hesmyrr wrote:
@To all people who replied
Yes, but the point is that some people might not just get it. Last thing I want is for some people to get exorbitant expectations then cry out TLBS sucks. On retrospect, I guess I really shouldn't bother with such individuals though.


This IS the one reason I could understand for BW fans not being okay with watching top BW players play sc2 (that and perhaps the idea that they would get robbed of watching top BW games).

Then again, if people are silly enough to watch sc2 games from players like Bisu, JD, etc and conclude that "BW pros aren't all they are hyped up to be" that would be pretty naive and foolish because they haven't been practicing SC2. Mechanics do transfer over, but not without practice and experience.
EffOrt and Soulkey Hwaiting!
pmastah
Profile Joined July 2011
Sweden8 Posts
October 17 2011 21:09 GMT
#364
Blizzard are obviously starting their own bw or sc2 team and these are their first stars.
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#365
BLOODY OUTRAGEOUS.......WTF NO STORK.
blubbdavid
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Switzerland2412 Posts
October 17 2011 21:10 GMT
#366
It's 5 am in Malaysia now. In approximately 2 hours, Sawa will come and hijack this thread.
What do you desire? Money? Glory? Power? Revenge? Or something that surpasses all other? Whatever you desire - that is here. Tower of God ¦¦Nutella, drink of the Gods
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
October 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#367
On October 18 2011 05:44 Zergneedsfood wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 05:36 L_Master wrote:
Most of us will be interested to see them play the new game.


Certainly. It would be interesting indeed to see what truly top notch mechanics can do with a game like SC2. Of course, if they haven't played enough SC2 to have some familiarity and skill at the game it might be uninteresting. Basically, if they have played some and have a good idea how the game is played this would be pretty awesome, if not, not so much.

Its a new age and current esports needs them to transfer over.


Not convinced here. SC2 doesn't really need this, and it would be a pretty brutal blow to BW if several of the absolute top switched over.

Pretty disappointed in alot of you BW guys though. The amount of BW > sc2 eliteism/snobbery in this thread is depressing. Normally I think BW group does a pretty solid job of quality posting, but when it comes to the mention of sc2, that seems to fall be the wayside.




I don't think there's a collective BW hive mind that tells BW elitists to go do things, but a lot of the responses were basically because people were speculating for no reason. I also don't think the elitism is overwhelming in the slightest.

There's nothing wrong with people saying they don't want to see Bisu/Jaedong/etc playing SC2. In fact, there's good reason to not want to watch it.

True elitism/snobbery would be if everyone in this thread said "Yeah, BW players gonna go roflstomp all of you SC2 noobies because BW is real game and you guys play fake".

I don't think anyone has made that comment yet, so it's pretty good, considering that the reaction could've been much worse.


Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 05:43 Hesmyrr wrote:
Even if they do play SC2, I really do not anticipate much skill difference at all. In fact if Blizzard invite any of current good SC2 pros as opponent, I will expect an roflstomp. SC1 and SC2 are fundamentally different RTS and I never understood why people think pro's skill will have perfect conversion rate; especially when one of their greatest weapons - mechanics - have less significance. Yes, there are tactical experience (which I guess is more important because from MLG I gander single engagement can be the game-decider) but those come over time.

Also I knew BW trolls were going to flame SC2 and take away our already rather debatable "moral superiority", heh.


How have people been flaming SC2? There are just people who don't want SC2 showmatches, and instead want BW.

There also might not be perfect conversion, but there's a reason why the Koreans, even though they were second rate mediocre players in competitive BW, are at the top of the game. And it's not just because their practice routines are a lot better than foreign routines.

Then what is the reason Koreans are better? Are you saying they have some innate ability encoded into their DNA that allows them to perform better at real-time-strategy games?
$♥$
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 21:13:45
October 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#368
I guess it's best if they play whatever the hell they want. If BW would take big blows from such things as *Show matches* of SC2, it would be on serious life support anyway and couldn't sustain itself, meaning that holding the players we love hostage would be simply wrong.

EDIT: If anyone accuses me of being a SC2 fanboy, I'll punch him in the Soul.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bisu and Fantasy are welcome to switch to anything else, though. The less of them I have to see, the better.
WriterBrows somewhat high. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ndFysO2JunE
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
October 17 2011 21:12 GMT
#369
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La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
pPingu
Profile Joined September 2011
Switzerland2892 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 21:14:31
October 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#370
On October 18 2011 06:09 pmastah wrote:
Blizzard are obviously starting their own bw or sc2 team and these are their first stars.


Didn't they all already renewed their contract (except jaedong)?

Also, why is everybody talking about bw vs sc2 when the first reaction should be to enjoy to be able to see awesome bw players at blizzcon?
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 17 2011 21:13 GMT
#371
On October 18 2011 06:08 L_Master wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 06:03 Hesmyrr wrote:
@To all people who replied
Yes, but the point is that some people might not just get it. Last thing I want is for some people to get exorbitant expectations then cry out TLBS sucks. On retrospect, I guess I really shouldn't bother with such individuals though.


This IS the one reason I could understand for BW fans not being okay with watching top BW players play sc2 (that and perhaps the idea that they would get robbed of watching top BW games).

Then again, if people are silly enough to watch sc2 games from players like Bisu, JD, etc and conclude that "BW pros aren't all they are hyped up to be" that would be pretty naive and foolish because they haven't been practicing SC2. Mechanics do transfer over, but not without practice and experience.

The main reason is, as you said, that we would be robbed of epic BW games. It's like gathering Kobe, Jordan, Lebron, etc. and having them play baseball :/
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
October 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#372
This move by blizzard is obviously a precaution vs trucks hitting poles.
Archers_bane
Profile Joined February 2011
United States1338 Posts
October 17 2011 21:14 GMT
#373
Well being around all that sc2, I am sure it is inevitable for them to at least try it.

but the thought of those 4 doing a 2v2 BW match makes me nerdgasm
Starcraft's BW glory days have passed, RIP Jaedong's dominance - 2013...EDIT 2017: WE BACK BOYS
KobraKay
Profile Joined March 2010
Portugal4367 Posts
October 17 2011 21:17 GMT
#374
On October 18 2011 06:12 mustaju wrote:
I guess it's best if they play whatever the hell they want. If BW would take big blows from such things as *Show matches* of SC2, it would be on serious life support anyway and couldn't sustain itself, meaning that holding the players we love hostage would be simply wrong.

EDIT: If anyone accuses me of being a SC2 fanboy, I'll punch him in the Soul.

+ Show Spoiler +
Bisu and Fantasy are welcome to switch to anything else, though. The less of them I have to see, the better.


Anyone that watches BW around TL knows you, fear not nobody will call you anything sc2 related lol....

To everyone that has a ticket and is going to be there....just enjoy watching them, either in Q&A panels or showmatches! Lucky people T.T
CJ Fighting! (--.--)
Tatari
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1179 Posts
October 17 2011 21:17 GMT
#375
I can see it now.

Bisu will file a claim that he was sexually assaulted by fan girls female rapists. SKT should send him some body guards x)
A fed jungler is no longer a jungler, but a terrorist.
comabreaded
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
United States2166 Posts
October 17 2011 21:18 GMT
#376
omg maybe I can finally give Bisu the soccer ball mouse he was asking for!
I put the fu in fun
MooLen
Profile Joined May 2011
Germany501 Posts
October 17 2011 21:18 GMT
#377
[image loading]

I dunno these SC:BW pros(and im really sorry bout that) but am i the only one that think the guy in the right looks like TLO with black hairs on that pic.
Skullflower
Profile Joined July 2010
United States3779 Posts
October 17 2011 21:20 GMT
#378
On October 18 2011 02:29 sGs.Kal_rA wrote:
Showmatch? Nahhh..

Its probably a modeling contest between these four studs:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading][image loading]
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[image loading]

Why no Flash? Well.... You tell me:
[image loading]



Jaedong wins ezpz
The ruminations are mine, let the world be yours.
ChewSenTv
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States99 Posts
October 17 2011 21:21 GMT
#379
omg......i will be there and this is amazing news
chongu
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Malaysia2600 Posts
October 17 2011 21:22 GMT
#380
On October 18 2011 06:10 blubbdavid wrote:
It's 5 am in Malaysia now. In approximately 2 hours, Sawa will come and hijack this thread.


Hide yo kids, hide yo parents, santa is coming to town
SC2 is to BW, what coke is to wine.
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