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Bisu, Jaedong, Jangbi, Fantasy to Blizzcon 2011 - Page 18

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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 17 2011 20:55 GMT
#341
OMG time to buy a Blizzcon ticket I never intended to buy before
Writerptrk
dcemuser
Profile Joined August 2010
United States3248 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 20:56:28
October 17 2011 20:56 GMT
#342
On October 18 2011 05:50 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 05:43 Hesmyrr wrote:
Even if they do play SC2, I really do not anticipate much skill difference at all. In fact if Blizzard invite any of current good SC2 pros as opponent, I will expect an roflstomp. SC1 and SC2 are fundamentally different RTS and I never understood why people think pro's skill will have perfect conversion rate; especially when one of their greatest weapons - mechanics - have less significance. Yes, there are tactical experience (which I guess is more important because from MLG I gander single engagement can be the game-decider) but those come over time.

Also I knew BW trolls were going to flame SC2 and take away our already rather debatable "moral superiority", heh.


Mechanics might not, but multi-tasking has huge significance. There is a skill ceiling on macro in SC2, but not micro while multi-tasking. Bisu's ability in that regard, for example, is unparalleled. Some guys like Best might not be as successful in SC2 purely due to playstyle, but guys like Bisu would excel, even without the requisite strategic insight, purely from the fact that he's essentially an "MMA on crack."

Bah, got sucked into this debate again. Oh well. -_-


Honestly due the higher APM skill cap on Terran (Marine splitting, etc) and the entire way the race works in SC2 (in a lot of ways Terran in SC2 is more like Protoss from Brood War), I think Bisu would be better at Terran.
Coffins
Profile Joined December 2010
Canada85 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 20:57:04
October 17 2011 20:56 GMT
#343
On October 18 2011 05:55 ArvickHero wrote:
OMG time to buy a Blizzcon ticket I never intended to buy before

good luck considering they are always sold out in seconds months before the event

unless you mean the virtual ticket :D
HeIios
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden2523 Posts
October 17 2011 20:57 GMT
#344
Probably already mentioned, but it's possible Blizzard invites them to play BW but want to show them how well received SC2 is among foreigners probably fueling interest since korean BW sites will probably follow the event and the players they are inviting are very influental. Either way us spectators can't lose in this scenario. Very excited.
bkrow
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Australia8532 Posts
October 17 2011 20:57 GMT
#345
On October 18 2011 05:42 insanet wrote:
Meh, now that this thread got front page, the sc2 kids are gonna come here and troll all day.

You realise your post is a massive troll within itself and is basically worse than anything us "SC2 kids" are saying. But thanks for being condescending and elitist

I have a feeling Blizzcon fans are going to nuts for these guys; BW showmatches (or SC2) between these players would be incredible to watch; now only to Blizzcon to Australia somehow..
In The Rear With The Gear .. *giggle* /////////// cobra-LA-LA-LA-LA-LA!!!!
PlosionCornu
Profile Joined August 2010
Italy814 Posts
October 17 2011 20:58 GMT
#346
On October 18 2011 05:56 Coffins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 05:55 ArvickHero wrote:
OMG time to buy a Blizzcon ticket I never intended to buy before

good luck considering they are always sold out in seconds months before the event

unless you mean the virtual ticket :D


But you don't need that one either, the tournament stream is free.
caradoc
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Canada3022 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 20:59:36
October 17 2011 20:58 GMT
#347
.... o_O

there are a lot of barcraft events streaming blizzcon.
Salvation a la mode and a cup of tea...
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
October 17 2011 21:00 GMT
#348
On October 18 2011 05:56 Coffins wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 05:55 ArvickHero wrote:
OMG time to buy a Blizzcon ticket I never intended to buy before

good luck considering they are always sold out in seconds months before the event

unless you mean the virtual ticket :D

EFFFFFF I wanted a real ticket lol .. if they had announced this before ticket sales I wouldve totally bought one ..
Writerptrk
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 21:00:47
October 17 2011 21:00 GMT
#349
On October 18 2011 01:28 Thebbeuttiffulland wrote:
i hope they will play starcraft 2 showmatches that would be great to see how their mechanics will work in sc2

Mechanics can't be applied if you don't know all the hotkeys, optimal groupings, and just general experience with the game's interface. They've got to be there to play SC:BW matches, which will be amazing. Everyone saw the failure of Boxer vs. YellOw when GomTV had a showmatch right after YellOw started playing SC2.

Basically, I think the main goal is to get more Koreans interested in SC2 by incorporating BW showmatches into the scheme, which is possibly the only way to improve Korean interest at this point as it seems to have hit a plateau.
$♥$
Kznn
Profile Joined March 2011
Brazil9072 Posts
October 17 2011 21:01 GMT
#350
I just lost my chance to meet bisu T_T
I'm a really, really sad panda :/
Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
October 17 2011 21:02 GMT
#351
On October 18 2011 05:56 dcemuser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 18 2011 05:50 Qaatar wrote:
On October 18 2011 05:43 Hesmyrr wrote:
Even if they do play SC2, I really do not anticipate much skill difference at all. In fact if Blizzard invite any of current good SC2 pros as opponent, I will expect an roflstomp. SC1 and SC2 are fundamentally different RTS and I never understood why people think pro's skill will have perfect conversion rate; especially when one of their greatest weapons - mechanics - have less significance. Yes, there are tactical experience (which I guess is more important because from MLG I gander single engagement can be the game-decider) but those come over time.

Also I knew BW trolls were going to flame SC2 and take away our already rather debatable "moral superiority", heh.


Mechanics might not, but multi-tasking has huge significance. There is a skill ceiling on macro in SC2, but not micro while multi-tasking. Bisu's ability in that regard, for example, is unparalleled. Some guys like Best might not be as successful in SC2 purely due to playstyle, but guys like Bisu would excel, even without the requisite strategic insight, purely from the fact that he's essentially an "MMA on crack."

Bah, got sucked into this debate again. Oh well. -_-


Honestly due the higher APM skill cap on Terran (Marine splitting, etc) and the entire way the race works in SC2 (in a lot of ways Terran in SC2 is more like Protoss from Brood War), I think Bisu would be better at Terran.


I think so too. Terran units are strong by themselves, and don't scale as well as P units in large armies.

Either way, it won't be the macro mechanics that sets top BW pros apart, but like what I noted previously, it will be the multi-tasking and micro - both of which have no skill-ceiling in SC2. The future of SC2 will be 'how many areas at once can I micro simultaneously, while keeping up with basic solid macro at home' (which any top SC2 pro can do right now).

No more of these one huge blob a-moving against another huge blob type games...I hope.
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
October 17 2011 21:03 GMT
#352
@To all people who replied
Yes, but the point is that some people might not just get it. Last thing I want is for some people to get exorbitant expectations then cry out TLBS sucks. On retrospect, I guess I really shouldn't bother with such individuals though.
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
hazelynut
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States2195 Posts
October 17 2011 21:04 GMT
#353
oh my god i'm so so so so so happy i think i could die happy now

(why are people talking about balance and sc2 and bw when we could be talking about how pretty bisu and jaedong are)
Zerg | life of lively to live to life of full life thx to shield battery | www.cstarleague.com <3
aintz
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada5624 Posts
October 17 2011 21:05 GMT
#354
they are probably paid to be there to promote sc2. i mean why not with sc2 getting more popular every day its about time for these pros to switch even.

kinda like valve paying pros to play dota2 and csgo.
slytown
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Korea (South)1411 Posts
October 17 2011 21:05 GMT
#355
I bet they're playing BW. This is awesome.
The best Flash meme ever: http://imgur.com/zquoK
pallad
Profile Joined September 2010
Poland1958 Posts
October 17 2011 21:05 GMT
#356
On October 18 2011 05:42 insanet wrote:
Meh, now that this thread got front page, the sc2 kids are gonna come here and troll all day.


maby keep bw/sc2 disscusion out of this . To be honest , you start bw/sc2 "war" yourself by posting this shit
Grown up kid
SC 2 -LingsLover- EU -- Jaedong , NesTea , Nerchio , DRG , Moon , Oz , Tarson , Scarlett -- Dota 2 Pallad EU- NaVi - LGD
Thrill
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
2599 Posts
October 17 2011 21:05 GMT
#357
Wow, this almost makes me want to go there. I remember the old BWWI's with Kang Min and crew, i really hope they get the recognition they deserve!

With WCG no longer carrying BW (Flash vs JD last year was a worthy end to it though), this carries more weight than most might think, it's one of the few exposures BW stars have to the foreign community.
Tumor
Profile Joined July 2010
Austria192 Posts
October 17 2011 21:06 GMT
#358
maybe blizzard had made a SC:BW with the SC2 engine for the Pros to play haha
Redmark
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2129 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-10-17 21:07:02
October 17 2011 21:06 GMT
#359
There's no reason they can't play both. If you're going to fly four people over you probably want value out of them.

Maybe even SC2BW.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
October 17 2011 21:06 GMT
#360
I hope to god they are playing BW showmatches and not SC2.
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