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On April 19 2005 00:15 splat wrote:
When I first started playing SC I hated BGH. If you played too much of it, it would obviously corrupt your skills on normal resource maps. But after a while I started to change my attitude about BGH for the following reason: at the end of it all, SC/BW is just a game and you payed money for it and therefore deserve to play it how you wish. It's wrong to try to tell someone what maps they should (or should not) play when it's their own money at stake. It's kind of like going to a restaurant and telling someone not to order their favorite meal. Even if you know that their favorite meal is not necessarily healthy and you personally like other meals better, what right do you have to say to someone what they should order?
Let the BGHers live in their own world. Let the "normal resource" players live in their own world. They already can, and will, co-exist. And if BGHers help maintain the popularity of SC, then so much the better for the rest of us. Long live SC!
Good analogy, but it's like someone who eats imitation meat sushi when there is fucking roast eel (or the real thing, although some people may definitely prefer the imitation). I had a friend whose brother would only eat soy sauce and rice. I went out with their family to a totally elite restaurant that was really good, and then near the end he finally 'conceded' to trying some of it. He was bitching the entire way back about how there was none for him.
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On April 19 2005 01:47 Day[9] wrote:
LoL, i remember asking trek if he wanted to 2v4@BGH and he said "No thx, people who play BGH are good at BGH." Its actually quite true.
yeh bgh and fastmap players can be damn god on those maps even when they suck insanely on normal maps its like a completely different style
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On April 18 2005 23:36 useless wrote:Show nested quote +On April 18 2005 22:04 Ammo wrote:
I really think retards who say "I don't mind people who play BGH for fun at all" have really low self-esteem. Who the hell are you to be in the position of "not minding" what others do? Are you like the international referee for all Starcraft-related activity? If kids play soccer in your backyard, then you may or may not mind: it's YOUR backyard. When other people play Starcraft in ways that provide them with a moment of harm-free leisure, it is such a fucking stupid thing to say "i don't mind". The It's just none of your business. You sound like tough guys on a basketball court laughing at people who double-dribble and don't care. And tough guys usually laugh at others cuz they just don't have a life. "What do you think of people who play BGH?" Man, what a fucking lame question, so damn elitist. Sounds like intellectual ghettoism and eugenics put together. Sorry for my vehemence, I love to see people have fun without having to put up with others better than them who say "that's not the right way". There. I really think assholes who have thoughts on the opinions of other peoples thoughts should shut the fuck up and insert many expletives until theres a big block of text that couldve been summed up with the word "opinion". Shit.
Best post I've read in days.
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I've always played low-resource maps, but since a few months, on the request of my friends, I've been playing 3v3 BGH with them. At the same time I convinced them to give LT a try.
After a few months of play, I'm actually BETTER at BGH than them, while they're still struggling to learn LT. I suppose one way to look at this would be to conclude that LT gameplay incorporates in it everything BGH gameplay has, plus more, thus making it easier for a low-resource map player to adapt to BGH than vice versa.
No doubt low resource maps are superior strategically / manual skill wise, but team BGH games are pretty fun, and I'll often play them now. And yeah, BGH has its own set of strats, some of which wouldnt be viable on a low-resource map.
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Well to be honest guys, I'm pretty sure 90% of the BGH and $$$ map players out there aren't even aware that there are real maps, much less organized professional gaming and such. They log onto battle net the first time, and see 19/20 games are "$$$ 3v3 NO RUSH". They assume it's the norm.
I'm curious though, am I the only one who occasionally joins a game called "1v1 $$$ YOU CAN'T BEAT ME", and then procedes to thoroughly trash the poor guy who thinks he's unbeatable? These poor kids are utterly confused by micro, and quite often I'm accused of hacking for dancing goons around.
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On April 18 2005 20:32 MuShu wrote:
What are your thoughts?
he is right.
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Canada9720 Posts
I've played many, many 3v3's on bgh with friends, and it's always fun. I don't know, I get bored of temple pretty easily, these days I pertty much fucking hate playing it. But i've played probably more games on bgh then lt, and i still dig bgh from time to time. maybe the larger map, and more players makes it more dynamic.
skill from standard resource maps will lend themselves to bgh, but the reverse usually isn't true.
but on the other hand, what day said was pretty true. the guys who hang in motel 24/7 playing 1000's of bgh are pretty damn good at it.
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Well, the guy clearly says that normal maps require a lot more than BGH. He also said that he has poor micro and can't do well on normal maps, and thus has got into the BGH community. So I'm pretty sure he IS aware of the skill level of the really high level games.
And yeah, micro'ing in a money map is funny. I used 4 goons and picked on a guy's non-speed lings, and after I pounded him, he's like "Nice Control!!!" Hehehe.
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pro gamer league should pick bgh as official map
2006 Ever League Maps!!
1. Ride of Valkyrie
2. Nostalgia of Nostalgia
3. Gaemagowon Again
4. Fortesimo
5. Big Game Hunters
I want to see pro gamers' bgh skills ^^
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Canada9720 Posts
Better yet they should put bgh into the team league, and a 3v3 section. now that would rock
Reach, yellow, ra v boxer, oov, kingdom? booya
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United Kingdom5251 Posts
Nada and Oov would just steamroll over everyone with their 20 fac mech macro..
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There are vods of progamers playing on money maps. It's like korean 3v3/4v4 on hunters but on a larger scale.
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sc/bw is dynamism
money maps make the game static.
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I play BGH to screw around I pretty much play that map twice a year
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Most of the time on bgh, you're either playing 3v3 or 4v4, so its going to be a low econ rush game anyway (unless its NR, which reduces the game by a lot). So the shit lot of resources don't really make much of a difference imo, making bgh similar to the hunters in the early game, which approximately more than half of the games don't last beyond.
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I told a friend that I would go to WCG2005 only if they put BGH as an official map
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yesterday i lost a 2v2v2v2 game
after tons of time
me and my partner vs another couple still left
we lost coz they used mind control to have another race and was with a 600 suply vs our 400
we tried everything, every spell etc but damn
he was so smart kakakak
in some way, bgh players think different...
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United Kingdom5251 Posts
On April 19 2005 10:47 Kacas wrote:
yesterday i lost a 2v2v2v2 game
after tons of time
me and my partner vs another couple still left
we lost coz they used mind control to have another race and was with a 600 suply vs our 400
we tried everything, every spell etc but damn
he was so smart kakakak
in some way, bgh players think different...
They can smell fear..
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I play 3v3 BGH on east with friends, It's alot of fun :D
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Yeah 3v3 BGH is fun 
Hey Matt :D 3v3 BGH today?
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