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Qaatar
Profile Joined January 2011
1409 Posts
August 31 2011 16:26 GMT
#61
On September 01 2011 00:53 baubo wrote:
So basically SKT1 and KT are like the Red Sox and the Yankees. And Fox/Oz/MBC are like the Royals/Devil Rays/Pirates. Except the revenue disparity is even higher and there's no revenue sharing or other ways for lesser teams to make ends meet.

I know this is suppose to be an upbeat thread, so sorry to be debbie downer here.


At this point in time, who gives a shit about the structure of the league when even the league itself was in question? I think most of us will take all the good news that we can get right about now.

Still so sad about Light girl though.
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
August 31 2011 16:33 GMT
#62
On September 01 2011 00:00 Milkis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 31 2011 23:57 andrewlt wrote:
BW is becoming like the NBA with the rich team vs poor team dynamic. The rich teams are throwing money and the poor teams are disbanding.


Nah, the small sponsors are drifting out and only the big sponsors are remaining.

Now all it just depends on whether or not a big sponsor will form an 8th team. If that happens, BW should remain stable for a long, long time.


I wonder who would sponsor the 8th team though. Would be deliciously random if it was a fried chicken place like Kyochon. :p
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GeeGeePLay
Profile Joined August 2011
Canada15 Posts
August 31 2011 16:37 GMT
#63
(T)Light Girl HWAITING~~~~
GG re?
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
August 31 2011 16:40 GMT
#64
This thread gave me hope...
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
August 31 2011 16:43 GMT
#65
On September 01 2011 01:26 Qaatar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 00:53 baubo wrote:
So basically SKT1 and KT are like the Red Sox and the Yankees. And Fox/Oz/MBC are like the Royals/Devil Rays/Pirates. Except the revenue disparity is even higher and there's no revenue sharing or other ways for lesser teams to make ends meet.

I know this is suppose to be an upbeat thread, so sorry to be debbie downer here.


At this point in time, who gives a shit about the structure of the league when even the league itself was in question? I think most of us will take all the good news that we can get right about now.


Let's put it this way.

1. There's a lot of fans who care about BW(high ratings)
2. There's a lot of money in BW(high player salary)
3. There's a lot of players in BW(best RTS players in the entire world)
4. THere's a lot of infrastructure in BW(2 cable channels

So why is it that half the league is saying "Screw this. Forget it"?

KT can give Stats a 100% raise. Yet Hwaseung thinks a team with Jaedong on it is not worth sponsoring. Do you not see the problem here?
Meh
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 16:47:05
August 31 2011 16:43 GMT
#66
On August 31 2011 22:57 Vuk_91 wrote:
Things are actually very simple: As long as there are people watching BW, it will not die. And obviously it wont die soon because a) Proleague finals were again most viewed E-sport event of the year,which means people are still interested in BW,


"most viewed E-sport event of the year"
all this means is that it stands a better chance of surviving on mainstream cable than any other E-sport.
it says nothing about how it compares to other possible programming the cable station can replace it with.

League of Legends and SC2 are not the competition here. It's baseball, comedy, reality tv, and mainstream drama that will push Brood War off of cable.

remember Brood War on MBCGame is not being replaced by Call of Duty or Halo competitions...
its being replaced by music videos.

player salaries are rising because they are no longer replaceable by up and coming 16 year olds.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
dudecrush
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada418 Posts
August 31 2011 16:51 GMT
#67
I'm glad there's some good news around.
Grats to Stats (pun defiantly intended).
Its great that Light is being so chivalrous like that.
And lastly, I hope Violet recovers soon.
jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
August 31 2011 16:52 GMT
#68
Holy shit, a 100% salary increase is huuuge!
http://twitter.com/jhNz
soujiro_
Profile Joined June 2010
Uruguay5195 Posts
August 31 2011 17:00 GMT
#69
thanks for some good news ^-^


ace hwaiting!!
catleaves
Profile Joined December 2010
United States506 Posts
August 31 2011 17:01 GMT
#70
thank you a lot for these updates!
^^
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16699 Posts
August 31 2011 17:03 GMT
#71
On September 01 2011 01:43 baubo wrote:
Let's put it this way.
1. There's a lot of fans who care about BW(high ratings)
2. There's a lot of money in BW(high player salary)
3. There's a lot of players in BW(best RTS players in the entire world)
4. THere's a lot of infrastructure in BW(2 cable channels
So why is it that half the league is saying "Screw this. Forget it"?
KT can give Stats a 100% raise. Yet Hwaseung thinks a team with Jaedong on it is not worth sponsoring. Do you not see the problem here?

over all numbers are slowly falling with no growth potential in other areas.
ever major corporations knows their is a hard ceiling on ratings.... the peak is over and "investment spending" will always be limited.

Intel/AMD/ZOTAC all make logical sponsors for a computer game just as Ford/GM/Chrysler/Honda are great sponsors for an auto race.

the problem with Brood War is that I can pick a computer up for free at the local "Salvation Army Donation Store" and it will play Brood War.

Therefore, an entire segment of international manufacturers is out as a sponsor.

Could the Indianapolis Racing League by a thriving//growing entity if Auto Parts Manufacturer's and Auto Maker's themselves would not be a sponsor of any events?
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jongl0
Profile Joined June 2011
631 Posts
August 31 2011 17:04 GMT
#72
Nice to see at least some good news.

Too bad about the girl though, hope she and the BW scene can recover from this.
red4ce
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States7313 Posts
August 31 2011 17:11 GMT
#73
Stats and Bisu definitely deserve their raises. Hopefully Hydra gets a good one also. I highly doubt he was well paid coming into this season. Sad to hear about Light's girl. Hopefully the girl will be cheered up when her hero comes to visit her. Reach's twitter Q&A article MUST be translated.
cYaN
Profile Joined May 2004
Norway3322 Posts
August 31 2011 17:16 GMT
#74
bw fighting^^ Nice to read some good news for a change.
Jojo131
Profile Joined January 2011
Brazil1631 Posts
August 31 2011 17:18 GMT
#75
All of this put a smile on my face today, especially dat raise for Stats, he really deserves it!
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
August 31 2011 17:22 GMT
#76
I'm 28 and these news brought tears to my eyes, the hell, i love BW!
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
August 31 2011 17:27 GMT
#77
On September 01 2011 01:52 jhNz wrote:
Holy shit, a 100% salary increase is huuuge!

So was Stats' hit-list in the PL play-offs. The karmic circle closes.
baubo
Profile Joined September 2008
China3370 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-31 17:30:33
August 31 2011 17:29 GMT
#78
On September 01 2011 02:03 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2011 01:43 baubo wrote:
Let's put it this way.
1. There's a lot of fans who care about BW(high ratings)
2. There's a lot of money in BW(high player salary)
3. There's a lot of players in BW(best RTS players in the entire world)
4. THere's a lot of infrastructure in BW(2 cable channels
So why is it that half the league is saying "Screw this. Forget it"?
KT can give Stats a 100% raise. Yet Hwaseung thinks a team with Jaedong on it is not worth sponsoring. Do you not see the problem here?

over all numbers are slowly falling with no growth potential in other areas.
ever major corporations knows their is a hard ceiling on ratings.... the peak is over and "investment spending" will always be limited.

Intel/AMD/ZOTAC all make logical sponsors for a computer game just as Ford/GM/Chrysler/Honda are great sponsors for an auto race.

the problem with Brood War is that I can pick a computer up for free at the local "Salvation Army Donation Store" and it will play Brood War.

Therefore, an entire segment of international manufacturers is out as a sponsor.

Could the Indianapolis Racing League by a thriving//growing entity if Auto Parts Manufacturer's and Auto Maker's themselves would not be a sponsor of any events?


I fail to see why you are disagreeing with me.

My point is that there is a ton of money to be made off of BW. But that the current setup is flawed. You have basically explained why that is the case.

So why is there a need for 1 sponsor, 1 team? Why can't it be "National Starcraft Association" where every game is sponsored by Shinhan, Olleh, SK Telecom, etc.? Or something similar? Why do you force companies like Hwaseung and Wemade to make huge investment of a single team rather than lesser sponsorships?

My only point is that there's enough stuff to make things work. There's just not enough ingenuity.
Meh
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
August 31 2011 17:29 GMT
#79
Thanks for this, finally some better news!
mierin
Profile Joined August 2010
United States4943 Posts
August 31 2011 17:30 GMT
#80
With all this money they're throwing around, KT should pick up JD. Imagine JD and Flash as constant practice partners...o.O

If Khan took on JD, I'd be equally giddy. SKT I don't think would fit him.
JD, Stork, Calm, Hyuk Fighting!
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