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Page 23. If I see any more BW vs SC2 debate from that point on you will get banned.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 27 2011 11:58 GMT
#1661
On September 27 2011 20:48 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 20:42 letian wrote:
What I read from http://bbs.wfbrood.com/thread-31816-1-1.html

They are all working hard now, they've already contacted 5-6 companies, and there is hope to create 1-2 new teams so that 8 teams format will be preserved for the tournament.

The new team lineup will be formed not according to some specific players but according to their individual performance, those who will be left can apply to be admitted to any other team.

They will start forming the teams from 10th of October. The new season will start from November.

Thanks!
Something I forgot to mention too, the sec-gen said MBCGame channel will last until March, they're trying to find a solution to that. But no word on MSL.


Secretary general ?
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
tyCe
Profile Joined March 2010
Australia2542 Posts
September 27 2011 11:59 GMT
#1662
On September 27 2011 20:49 Ikonn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 20:42 tyCe wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:27 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:08 Ryo wrote:
And 6000 people attended the Starleague Finals. Wow, God Jangbi saves esports!


Only 6000?


The biggest OSL final ever was EVER 2004 with 7000 I think. 6000 is a lot of people lol.

Australia's domestic football (not handegg) competition, which is pretty much a joke, attracts 10k+ people to the venue even if only the bottom teams are playing. 6000 sounds really low for a Starleague final, even if the venue is smaller.


Starcraft is a videogame and as such has a niche audience. Football is a widely accepted sport.

This is my point though. Football is a niche sport in Australia, especially the local league (as opposed to the fantastic European domestic leagues) and plus, Australia has a much lower population than Korea, plus the tickets are more expensive, and plus I'm talking about bottom tier teams. I just thought BW was more popular in Korea; I guess I was wrong. The SPL finals seems to be more of a cultural thing like the Melbourne Cup in Australia, or the Tour de France, or the World Cup, where fans and not-really-fans both join in, while the OSL and MSL finals should be more demonstrative of the true fan audience.

Having said this, I'm glad there will be an 8th team. I wonder how Khan, STX and Stars will cope though.
Betrayed by EG.BuK
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 12:13:20
September 27 2011 12:09 GMT
#1663
On September 27 2011 20:59 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 20:49 Ikonn wrote:
On September 27 2011 20:42 tyCe wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:27 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:08 Ryo wrote:
And 6000 people attended the Starleague Finals. Wow, God Jangbi saves esports!


Only 6000?


The biggest OSL final ever was EVER 2004 with 7000 I think. 6000 is a lot of people lol.

Australia's domestic football (not handegg) competition, which is pretty much a joke, attracts 10k+ people to the venue even if only the bottom teams are playing. 6000 sounds really low for a Starleague final, even if the venue is smaller.


Starcraft is a videogame and as such has a niche audience. Football is a widely accepted sport.

This is my point though. Football is a niche sport in Australia, especially the local league (as opposed to the fantastic European domestic leagues) and plus, Australia has a much lower population than Korea, plus the tickets are more expensive, and plus I'm talking about bottom tier teams. I just thought BW was more popular in Korea; I guess I was wrong. The SPL finals seems to be more of a cultural thing like the Melbourne Cup in Australia, or the Tour de France, or the World Cup, where fans and not-really-fans both join in, while the OSL and MSL finals should be more demonstrative of the true fan audience.

Having said this, I'm glad there will be an 8th team. I wonder how Khan, STX and Stars will cope though.


so what's your point ? it's like saying hey these game sucks because it doesn't have the popularity like other real life sports.Your dissapointed about the results about the final but I am not . I don't expect sc bw to reach the level of football where everyone becomes a mindless zombie kicking and hitting other people with bricks because the other teams won their game .

Seriously I am lucky broodwar is not at these level of fanaticism with other players stabbing each other just for a damn game .
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1209028/Man-stabbed-West-Ham-Millwall-fans-brawl-outside-stadium.html
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
September 27 2011 12:21 GMT
#1664
On September 27 2011 20:59 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 20:49 Ikonn wrote:
On September 27 2011 20:42 tyCe wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:27 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:08 Ryo wrote:
And 6000 people attended the Starleague Finals. Wow, God Jangbi saves esports!


Only 6000?


The biggest OSL final ever was EVER 2004 with 7000 I think. 6000 is a lot of people lol.

Australia's domestic football (not handegg) competition, which is pretty much a joke, attracts 10k+ people to the venue even if only the bottom teams are playing. 6000 sounds really low for a Starleague final, even if the venue is smaller.


Starcraft is a videogame and as such has a niche audience. Football is a widely accepted sport.

This is my point though. Football is a niche sport in Australia, especially the local league (as opposed to the fantastic European domestic leagues) and plus, Australia has a much lower population than Korea, plus the tickets are more expensive, and plus I'm talking about bottom tier teams. I just thought BW was more popular in Korea; I guess I was wrong. The SPL finals seems to be more of a cultural thing like the Melbourne Cup in Australia, or the Tour de France, or the World Cup, where fans and not-really-fans both join in, while the OSL and MSL finals should be more demonstrative of the true fan audience.

Having said this, I'm glad there will be an 8th team. I wonder how Khan, STX and Stars will cope though.

You still overestimate the popularity of BW if you think the PL grand finals is comparable to the Melbourne Cup or the Tour de France. It's not even close to those events, not in popularity or even cultural significance.
letian
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany4221 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-27 12:27:23
September 27 2011 12:26 GMT
#1665
Have never watched Tour de France or Melbourne Cup :p
ShadeR
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7535 Posts
September 27 2011 13:02 GMT
#1666
tyCe who are the bottom teams? Melbourne Victory? I believe 'not hand egg' is pretty big in Australia... lotta wogs and arabs here =D.
Piste
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
6183 Posts
September 27 2011 13:28 GMT
#1667
everyone knows Flash is just too good to be beaten. they gave up.
dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
September 27 2011 17:25 GMT
#1668
On September 27 2011 20:59 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 20:49 Ikonn wrote:
On September 27 2011 20:42 tyCe wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:27 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:08 Ryo wrote:
And 6000 people attended the Starleague Finals. Wow, God Jangbi saves esports!


Only 6000?


The biggest OSL final ever was EVER 2004 with 7000 I think. 6000 is a lot of people lol.

Australia's domestic football (not handegg) competition, which is pretty much a joke, attracts 10k+ people to the venue even if only the bottom teams are playing. 6000 sounds really low for a Starleague final, even if the venue is smaller.


Starcraft is a videogame and as such has a niche audience. Football is a widely accepted sport.

This is my point though. Football is a niche sport in Australia, especially the local league (as opposed to the fantastic European domestic leagues) and plus, Australia has a much lower population than Korea, plus the tickets are more expensive, and plus I'm talking about bottom tier teams. I just thought BW was more popular in Korea; I guess I was wrong. The SPL finals seems to be more of a cultural thing like the Melbourne Cup in Australia, or the Tour de France, or the World Cup, where fans and not-really-fans both join in, while the OSL and MSL finals should be more demonstrative of the true fan audience.

Having said this, I'm glad there will be an 8th team. I wonder how Khan, STX and Stars will cope though.


Well yea according to Rekrul, people outside of Korea tends to underestimate the popularity of BW or videogaming in general in Korea. It exists and people know it exists, but it's still a niche.

Still 6000 sounds good enough.
DreamChaser
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
1649 Posts
September 27 2011 17:31 GMT
#1669
On September 27 2011 22:28 Piste wrote:
everyone knows Flash is just too good to be beaten. they gave up.


Maybe when flash retires BW makes a come back...
Plays against every MU with nexus first.
metzninja
Profile Joined November 2010
New Zealand626 Posts
September 28 2011 01:21 GMT
#1670
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 27 2011 20:59 tyCe wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 20:49 Ikonn wrote:
On September 27 2011 20:42 tyCe wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:38 ZeroChrome wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:27 sluggaslamoo wrote:
On September 27 2011 14:08 Ryo wrote:
And 6000 people attended the Starleague Finals. Wow, God Jangbi saves esports!


Only 6000?


The biggest OSL final ever was EVER 2004 with 7000 I think. 6000 is a lot of people lol.

Australia's domestic football (not handegg) competition, which is pretty much a joke, attracts 10k+ people to the venue even if only the bottom teams are playing. 6000 sounds really low for a Starleague final, even if the venue is smaller.


Starcraft is a videogame and as such has a niche audience. Football is a widely accepted sport.

This is my point though. Football is a niche sport in Australia, especially the local league (as opposed to the fantastic European domestic leagues) and plus, Australia has a much lower population than Korea, plus the tickets are more expensive, and plus I'm talking about bottom tier teams. I just thought BW was more popular in Korea; I guess I was wrong. The SPL finals seems to be more of a cultural thing like the Melbourne Cup in Australia, or the Tour de France, or the World Cup, where fans and not-really-fans both join in, while the OSL and MSL finals should be more demonstrative of the true fan audience.

Having said this, I'm glad there will be an 8th team. I wonder how Khan, STX and Stars will cope though.


That is such a butchery of the word niche. Calling any sport with over 100,000 participants (let alone nearly 400,000!) in Australia as niche is ridiculous. You know that far more people spectate domestic football than domestic cricket on average, right - or is cricket a niche sport, too? Any sport other than rugby league or aussie rules could be considered niche by your logic. The fact is that you're trying to compare the incomparable: a sport enjoyed by billions of people of all ages and backgrounds with a computer game. 6,000 people at an OSL final is massive.

I don't understand what you mean by wondering how Khan, STX and Stars will cope, either. They can at least pick up some of the rookies who will, inevitably, be left by the wayside when trying to compress three teams into one. Any team which has a large sponsor behind them is going to be fine.
Rodiel3
Profile Joined March 2011
France1158 Posts
September 28 2011 01:28 GMT
#1671
Jaedong as been saved !!
http://www.youtube.com/user/rodiel3 SCBW FPVOD
Torpedo.Vegas
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1890 Posts
September 28 2011 09:19 GMT
#1672
On September 28 2011 02:31 DreamChaser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2011 22:28 Piste wrote:
everyone knows Flash is just too good to be beaten. they gave up.


Maybe when flash retires BW makes a come back...


Isn't there a correlation between Flash's times of success and BW's rocky patches. Hes like a Succubus of BW...o_o
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 15:36:17
September 29 2011 11:46 GMT
#1673
Brief summary of some Oz related news:

Basically Jaedong says he's doing alright. He's currently (at the time of the phone interview with Fomos anyway) in Ulsan, staying at home. He's spending quality time with his parents and friends. Some time ago he went on a 2 days 1 night trip by himself. Now he's at home reading books and practicing on Bnet with his teammates. He asks his fans not to worry about him.

Fomos says they contacted Kespa and Jaedong is on the list of players who have declared their intention to attend tomorrow's (30th Sept) education seminar make-up session. So is Bisu, Hiya, Midas, Mind and Roro. Flash is on sick leave (recovering from surgery) so he's not attending.

Lomo and Anytime are not on the list as of 29th Sept. Now before anyone panics about this, just wait and see what Fomos or DES has to say about this tomorrow. There should be some further explanation on this issue.

As for other players who missed the initial seminar, Fomos didn't specify whether they're attending or not so we'll just have to wait for media articles/pictures tomorrow.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120519&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120522&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
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Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
September 29 2011 11:53 GMT
#1674
Thanks ryo for the update
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
Hyde
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Australia14568 Posts
September 29 2011 11:55 GMT
#1675
Thanks for the update Ryo. Jaedong going on a trip by himself, sounds so lonely

Anytime T_T *panic*
Because when you left, Brood War was all spotlights and titans. Now, with the death of the big leagues, Brood War has moved to the basements and carparks. Now, Brood War is unlicensed brawls, lost teeth, and bloody fights for fistfulls of money - SirJolt
e_i_pi_1_0
Profile Joined September 2009
933 Posts
September 29 2011 15:25 GMT
#1676
Thanks for the update Ryo.

Quick question: Lomo and Anytime haven't been on the list since April 29, or is this supposed to be September?
Jaedong and Hwaseung Oz fan.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
September 29 2011 15:36 GMT
#1677
On September 30 2011 00:25 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:
Thanks for the update Ryo.

Quick question: Lomo and Anytime haven't been on the list since April 29, or is this supposed to be September?

My error, it's 29th Sept. Thanks
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Elroi
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden5617 Posts
September 29 2011 15:57 GMT
#1678
Thanks Ryo
"To all eSports fans, I want to be remembered as a progamer who can make something out of nothing, and someone who always does his best. I think that is the right way of living, and I'm always doing my best to follow that." - Jaedong. /watch?v=jfghAzJqAp0
eton7410
Profile Joined December 2009
Canada261 Posts
September 29 2011 17:56 GMT
#1679
On September 29 2011 20:46 Ryo wrote:
Brief summary of some Oz related news:

Basically Jaedong says he's doing alright. He's currently (at the time of the phone interview with Fomos anyway) in Ulsan, staying at home. He's spending quality time with his parents and friends. Some time ago he went on a 2 days 1 night trip by himself. Now he's at home reading books and practicing on Bnet with his teammates. He asks his fans not to worry about him.

Fomos says they contacted Kespa and Jaedong is on the list of players who have declared their intention to attend tomorrow's (30th Sept) education seminar make-up session. So is Bisu, Hiya, Midas, Mind and Roro. Flash is on sick leave (recovering from surgery) so he's not attending.

Lomo and Anytime are not on the list as of 29th Sept. Now before anyone panics about this, just wait and see what Fomos or DES has to say about this tomorrow. There should be some further explanation on this issue.

As for other players who missed the initial seminar, Fomos didn't specify whether they're attending or not so we'll just have to wait for media articles/pictures tomorrow.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120519&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120522&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
September 29 2011 18:30 GMT
#1680
On September 30 2011 02:56 eton7410 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 29 2011 20:46 Ryo wrote:
Brief summary of some Oz related news:

Basically Jaedong says he's doing alright. He's currently (at the time of the phone interview with Fomos anyway) in Ulsan, staying at home. He's spending quality time with his parents and friends. Some time ago he went on a 2 days 1 night trip by himself. Now he's at home reading books and practicing on Bnet with his teammates. He asks his fans not to worry about him.

Fomos says they contacted Kespa and Jaedong is on the list of players who have declared their intention to attend tomorrow's (30th Sept) education seminar make-up session. So is Bisu, Hiya, Midas, Mind and Roro. Flash is on sick leave (recovering from surgery) so he's not attending.

Lomo and Anytime are not on the list as of 29th Sept. Now before anyone panics about this, just wait and see what Fomos or DES has to say about this tomorrow. There should be some further explanation on this issue.

As for other players who missed the initial seminar, Fomos didn't specify whether they're attending or not so we'll just have to wait for media articles/pictures tomorrow.

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120519&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=
http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=120522&db=interview&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=


Thanks
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