EPTGrrrr... / Guillaume Patry; French-Canadian guy who became the only non-Korean Starleague champion in the second OSL ever back in 2000. Played random, then became Protoss in Korea, eventually quit SCBW, played with ElkY in poker, now works as an investment banker IIRC.
What's with all the hostility? - Page 22
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Ciryandor
United States3735 Posts
Grrrr... / Guillaume Patry; French-Canadian guy who became the only non-Korean Starleague champion in the second OSL ever back in 2000. Played random, then became Protoss in Korea, eventually quit SCBW, played with ElkY in poker, now works as an investment banker IIRC. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On July 30 2011 01:31 Ciryandor wrote: Grrrr... / Guillaume Patry; French-Canadian guy who became the only non-Korean Starleague champion in the second OSL ever back in 2000. Played random, then became Protoss in Korea, eventually quit SCBW, played with ElkY in poker, now works as an investment banker IIRC. Sounds like he's living the dream, like a boss | ||
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ampson
United States2355 Posts
As for the community, BW fans have been here forever and dislike the flood of people SC2 brought because it makes them a smaller fish in a bigger pond. And a lot of them act like elitists because of this. Can't say that it's pleasant, but I don't care what they think. | ||
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Sawamura
Malaysia7602 Posts
On July 30 2011 01:50 ampson wrote: So it's like the situation with WoW and how other MMOs have difficulty taking hold in the market. BW has been evolving for 10 years, the strategies are refined, the balance is proven, the skill ceiling is high and the game has pretty much been figured out. SC2 is still young with 2 more expansions to go, so the play will naturally not be as refined as brood war for quite some time. This is why I think that the BW fans don't like starcraft 2....yet. As for the community, BW fans have been here forever and dislike the flood of people SC2 brought because it makes them a smaller fish in a bigger pond. And a lot of them act like elitists because of this. Can't say that it's pleasant, but I don't care what they think. I am bored i am seriously bored of this kind of stupid comments already .......... | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On July 30 2011 01:57 Sawamura wrote: I am bored i am seriously bored of this kind of stupid comments already .......... DISCLAIMER! The opinions of ampson is that of his own and does not reflect the official standpoint of the Starcraft II Community and those of its members | ||
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kainzero
United States5211 Posts
want to start a flame war? just go to any random RPG thread/board and say you like final fantasy 6 over final fantasy 7. it will happen, unless you're posting on a final fantasy 6 thread on a final fantasy 6 board. you can also: mention the word OP in any SC2 forum. suggest they rebalance something in any game. suggest story changes for a movie. however if you want to really know the meat of a community, you need to get involved and not start shit with anything. want to get into BW? play BW! watch BW! meet people who watch and play BW and play and watch with them! there's way too much debating on the internet and it's sad that the image of a community is based on that and not what's actually getting done in the game. i remember the influx of new players to shoryuken.com after sf4 came out. tons of hate everywhere between 3s, mvc2, sf2 players and sf4 players on the boards. but in real life everyone was friendly. everyone tried other games and got along with everyone else unless people wanted to start shit by saying their game is the better game. there will always be trolls and people wanting to start shit, whether it's laker fans suggesting one-sided trades to pick up dwight howard, sc2 fans wanting jaedong/flash/stork/bisu to switch to sc2, etc. etc. but they're never really the heart and soul of any community, and any of this hostility is usually instigated by like 3 or 4 people and debated endlessly on the internet instead of actually getting involved in the hobby itself. | ||
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Xenocide_Knight
Korea (South)2625 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:02 Blasterion wrote: DISCLAIMER! The opinions of ampson is that of his own and does not reflect the official standpoint of the Starcraft II Community and those of its members But that's what a lot of sc2 players think. And while his misinformed opinion doesn't reflect the "official" stand point (whatever that is), it certainly is a common viewpoint from a SC2 member. Like, when sc2 first came out, we were fine with refuting these points and discussing things in a calm manner but they just keep coming. Somehow, even after a year, the sc2 players are still making the same, incorrect comments. | ||
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Turenne
331 Posts
On July 30 2011 01:50 ampson wrote: So it's like the situation with WoW and how other MMOs have difficulty taking hold in the market. BW has been evolving for 10 years, the strategies are refined, the balance is proven, the skill ceiling is high and the game has pretty much been figured out. SC2 is still young with 2 more expansions to go, so the play will naturally not be as refined as brood war for quite some time. This is why I think that the BW fans don't like starcraft 2....yet. As for the community, BW fans have been here forever and dislike the flood of people SC2 brought because it makes them a smaller fish in a bigger pond. And a lot of them act like elitists because of this. Can't say that it's pleasant, but I don't care what they think. Have to agree with a lot of this. Its a shame that a once great game like BW is nearly dead, but its very unfair that so many BW fans feel the need to take their frustration out on SC2 and its fans who merely wish to enjoy SC2 without harassment. | ||
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dark_dragoon10
United States299 Posts
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Turenne
331 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:31 Phalanx wrote: This site was a bw community site... the influx of wow esport noobs who whine complain and have no manners just irritates everyone and is not really welcome. I love watch and play sc2 but i understand where the BW ppl are coming from. Perfect example of the kind of abuse and elitism that the SC community does not need.  | ||
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Essbee
Canada2371 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:29 Turenne wrote: Have to agree with a lot of this. Its a shame that a once great game like BW is nearly dead, but its very unfair that so many BW fans feel the need to take their frustration out on SC2 and its fans who merely wish to enjoy SC2 without harassment. Sigh... I wonder if you guys even read the threads. I give up. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:29 Turenne wrote: Have to agree with a lot of this. Its a shame that a once great game like BW is nearly dead, but its very unfair that so many BW fans feel the need to take their frustration out on SC2 and its fans who merely wish to enjoy SC2 without harassment. How ironic. | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:41 Essbee wrote: Sigh... I wonder if you guys even read the threads. I give up. Of course they've read the threads. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
FML for defending SC2, | ||
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Turenne
331 Posts
Your condescending tone is not necessary. Just a little bit of respect from BW fans towards SC2 fans would go a long way. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:48 Turenne wrote: Your condescending tone is not necessary. Just a little bit of respect from BW fans towards SC2 fans would go a long way. But isn't it hard for someone to show respect when you kind of are telling their passion is going to die blatantly to their face? There is a old saying, Messengers of Peace do not carry spears. | ||
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Turenne
331 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:54 Blasterion wrote: But isn't it hard for someone to show respect when you kind of are telling their passion is going to die blatantly to their face? Everything is dying, just some things quicker then others. Lets not make realism into a vice and delusion into a virtue in the BW community, its supposed to be the other way around you understand. | ||
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ffreakk
Singapore2155 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:14 kainzero wrote: + Show Spoiler + i think the hostility comes from the fact that you're interacting with a general community. and there's always hostility in anything like that. want to start a flame war? just go to any random RPG thread/board and say you like final fantasy 6 over final fantasy 7. it will happen, unless you're posting on a final fantasy 6 thread on a final fantasy 6 board. you can also: mention the word OP in any SC2 forum. suggest they rebalance something in any game. suggest story changes for a movie. however if you want to really know the meat of a community, you need to get involved and not start shit with anything. want to get into BW? play BW! watch BW! meet people who watch and play BW and play and watch with them! there's way too much debating on the internet and it's sad that the image of a community is based on that and not what's actually getting done in the game. i remember the influx of new players to shoryuken.com after sf4 came out. tons of hate everywhere between 3s, mvc2, sf2 players and sf4 players on the boards. but in real life everyone was friendly. everyone tried other games and got along with everyone else unless people wanted to start shit by saying their game is the better game. there will always be trolls and people wanting to start shit, whether it's laker fans suggesting one-sided trades to pick up dwight howard, sc2 fans wanting jaedong/flash/stork/bisu to switch to sc2, etc. etc. but they're never really the heart and soul of any community, and any of this hostility is usually instigated by like 3 or 4 people and debated endlessly on the internet instead of actually getting involved in the hobby itself. But but but.. 6 is really awesome. I may be biased since i just replayed 6 not too long ago. But its about as good as 7 imho, especially the Characters' special skills (Rage, Trance, Blitz, Bushido, Sketch etc) are so unique, plus Relic system makes it interesting.. But so are Materias >.<. Ah, i almost forgot this is the Hostility thread, guess i better post something on topic. No sense in explaining the hate imho, what can be said is already said. All in all, its not like explaining why they (especially the trespassers) receive the hates is going to make them feel better. Most people should be perfectly aware of the current circumstances by now, after this many pages. @ Turenne Making excuses is useless. Read Ryo's post again, and then take another look at your own. | ||
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Blasterion
China10272 Posts
On July 30 2011 02:58 ffreakk wrote: But but but.. 6 is really awesome. I may be biased since i just replayed 6 not too long ago. But its about as good as 7 imho, especially the Characters' special skills (Rage, Trance, Blitz, Bushido, Sketch etc) are so unique, plus Relic system makes it interesting.. But so are Materias >.<. Ah, i almost forgot this is the Hostility thread, guess i better post something on topic. No sense in explaining the hate imho, what can be said is already said. All in all, its not like explaining why they (especially the trespassers) receive the hates is going to make them feel better. Most people should be perfectly aware of the current circumstances by now, after this many pages. @ Turenne Making excuses is useless. Read Ryo's post again, and then take another look at your own. I really like 8 though... cuz it's just something I enjoy so much also I am a Rinoa fan | ||
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hiawatha
United States120 Posts
Anyways, MLG Anaheim is this evening, BW fans I invite you to check it out if you haven't bothered watching anything SC2 related yet/in a while. You might find yourself entertained. | ||
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