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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it. | ||
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lorkac
United States2297 Posts
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Drayne
Canada239 Posts
This is really bad news in my opinion BUT, NO it does not break my passion for BW.. Most of us been watching BW via free stream or with cholera,klazart,moletrap,rise,nuke on youtube, You know what happened to the only channel that was asking money from us? you guys figure it out. With the growth and evolution of eSports, this is bound to happen to some of em, its sad to see someone as *established* as MBC take a hit like that.. Hopefully this is not a sign of esports in general going the wrong way... BW was still bigger then so many of em, imagine how the lesser one feels about that one, hopefully this doesnt stop the young folks to try that path, or else , this could be HUGE | ||
CaucasianAsian
Korea (South)11601 Posts
On July 29 2011 05:31 IntoTheWow wrote: Ok, gravity of the situation (imo) Brood War through it's history has been run on 2 channels mainly: OnGameNet (OGN) and MBC Game (MBC). The two big single leagues Brood War has are OSL (Ongame net StarLeague) and MSL (Mbc StarLeague). There was another single league run by GomTV but it died some time ago (because of KeSPA reasons and things that are not relevant). There are also some off-season single leagues now and then, but those are minor in the grand scheme of things. The team league (what we call Proleague) is run by both channels together MBC and OGN. There's 2 matches a night, one on each channel. Finals are on both channels at the same time. These news are important because MBC Game is a channel dedicated to video games. Besides the Brood War main shows (MSL, Proleague), MBC also has other shows like MBC Hero Attack (where TL Attack got the idea from), some shows were commentators play with players, an 'amateur' Brood War league etc. Besides that MBC hosts shows on other games like Tekken Crash (fighting game), Special Forces (Counter-Strike korean clone) and if I remember correctly other online games like Kart Rider (mario kart online basically). This means that if MBC is gone, first part of the infrastructure could be gone or re-conditioned for the Kpop music channel. They own a studio where the matches are played. Commentators could lose their job and people who work here. Some of the people could still work for the music channel I guess: camera guys, lighting, make-up, directors, etc. The name would be gone. MSL exists because beside the infrastructure it holds prestige, they have a relationship with KeSPA and teams (Gom league had the cash, but didn't have this). They also have a strong name, which lets them negotiate with big sponsors. So, I don't want to blow this out of proportion, because no news are final yet. But MBC Game closing down (or switching to another thing) would be pretty big for BW and pretty big for any niche Esports in Korea. quoting this because it's dead on. | ||
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Cubu
1171 Posts
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flamewheel
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
Hopefully something more concrete in the future can absolve my fears. If not, then it's been a damn good run, MBC/MSL/Brood War. | ||
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Uninstall
Canada79 Posts
Now I think about it, I have no idea why MSL is considered the inferior league. I much prefer the MSL format and it generally produces more entertaining qualifiers for me. Is it the prize pool...? Hope someone can shed some light on this. Thanks. | ||
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Phyrigian
New Zealand1332 Posts
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doubleupgradeobbies!
Australia1353 Posts
On July 29 2011 20:28 3xiLe wrote: Prize pools larger. It's not considered inferior. OSL is just bigger and larger. The reason why it's considered less prestigious is because MBCGame started WAY after OGN. Also MBC is a combo of channels, and I don't know much about korea, but if the name implies anything, OGN is just gaming. OGN is actually a subsidiary of On-Media, so basically OGN is just gaming the way MBCGame is, where On-Media is roughly equivalent to MBC. But yeah, OSL is considered more 'prestigious' pretty much cos it's older. | ||
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sCCrooked
Korea (South)1306 Posts
Liquipedia won't stream new games, Liquipedia won't scream 리버리버리버리버리버리버!!! You, sir, win 1 internetz. b'-')b I hope if MBC does in fact collapse on this, that someone else will pick up the torch. I though e-sports was just starting to get spread into China and they've been giving such positive news here in Korea for its growth (they didn't specify BW when they said it but I along with most Koreans assumed...). | ||
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Zidane
United States1692 Posts
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Torenhire
United States11681 Posts
On July 30 2011 07:25 Zidane wrote: Anyone else worrying about OGN now? Would make sense that if one station is suffering with ratings, the other one probably is too. Let's not worry about it until the news comes out...and if it ever does, you might need to bring a defibrillator to start my heart beating again. | ||
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LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On July 30 2011 07:25 Zidane wrote: Anyone else worrying about OGN now? Would make sense that if one station is suffering with ratings, the other one probably is too. Assuming that the news about MBC is true, OGN just lost its biggest competitor. If Koreans want to watch BW progaming, they all will go watch OGN. | ||
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Hikari
1914 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:03 LunarDestiny wrote: Assuming that the news about MBC is true, OGN just lost its biggest competitor. If Koreans want to watch BW progaming, they all will go watch OGN. But this "boost" of viewers may be short lived. Will OGN be "strong" enough to carry the burden of proleague all by itself? Or does PL formats have to change? With less games and less money involved into BW will the B teamers continue to dedicate their life into broodwar? | ||
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sqrt
1210 Posts
On July 30 2011 07:25 Zidane wrote: Anyone else worrying about OGN now? Would make sense that if one station is suffering with ratings, the other one probably is too. They aren't suffering ratings, not more than usual. It is just that MBC figured out that the rating will be higher if they turn themselves into a music channel, it's not a matter of declaying interest in the public. In fact, even if they turn themselves into a Kpop channel they can still broadcast 20% non-music content, which will mostly be BW and Tekken Crash. EDIT: Overall, it's a case of "We want more", not "no one cares". | ||
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ChoRds
United States127 Posts
On July 30 2011 08:37 sqrt wrote: They aren't suffering ratings, not more than usual. It is just that MBC figured out that the rating will be higher if they turn themselves into a music channel, it's not a matter of declaying interest in the public. In fact, even if they turn themselves into a Kpop channel they can still broadcast 20% non-music content, which will mostly be BW and Tekken Crash. EDIT: Overall, it's a case of "We want more", not "no one cares". I've been hearing for the past few years that BW ratings have been dropping in SK. just look at the crowds today compared to 5 or 6 years ago. I think it is at least partially a matter of decaying interest | ||
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rabitslayer
Canada24 Posts
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Elyvilon
United States13143 Posts
On July 29 2011 22:21 doubleupgradeobbies! wrote: OGN is actually a subsidiary of On-Media, so basically OGN is just gaming the way MBCGame is, where On-Media is roughly equivalent to MBC. But yeah, OSL is considered more 'prestigious' pretty much cos it's older. It's unfortunate, because usually MSLs are better than OSLs for whatever reason. | ||
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HyperionDreamer
Canada1528 Posts
Hoping the MSL doesn't entirely shut down, but it would kind of make sense that MBC wouldn't continue to support it if they're moving their channel away from that content. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
last msl eh? Meh it really does reminds me that when I first come to TL it was 2003, and that is, alas, 8 years ago! How time flies. | ||
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evanthebouncy!
United States12796 Posts
i'm sighing in the most audible way | ||
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