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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51038 Posts
On August 01 2011 00:41 Zzoram wrote: Does this mean that Broodwar in South Korea is losing momentum, and Starcraft 2 isn't growing fast enough to fill the void? Support BW and support for other games is fine.Just that Kpop has greater momentum.. | ||
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Legatus Lanius
2135 Posts
no, hes wrong about alot of things | ||
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Zzoram
Canada7115 Posts
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51038 Posts
On August 01 2011 00:50 Zzoram wrote: I think E-sports in Korea is probably fine. It could only ever handle so much E-sports, and GOM has essentially replaced MBC hasn't it? I mean in terms of there formerly being 2 major E-sports broadcasters in the form of OGN and MBC. We may be losing MBC but we have a much more foreigner friendly GOM in it's place. that would be true if GOM covered games other than SC2. | ||
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Logginurkeyz
United States375 Posts
On August 01 2011 00:50 Zzoram wrote: I think E-sports in Korea is probably fine. It could only ever handle so much E-sports, and GOM has essentially replaced MBC hasn't it? I mean in terms of there formerly being 2 major E-sports broadcasters in the form of OGN and MBC. We may be losing MBC but we have a much more foreigner friendly GOM in it's place. I think ITW summed it up pretty nicely with this post by saying On July 29 2011 05:31 IntoTheWow wrote: Ok, gravity of the situation (imo) + Show Spoiler + Brood War through it's history has been run on 2 channels mainly: OnGameNet (OGN) and MBC Game (MBC). The two big single leagues Brood War has are OSL (Ongame net StarLeague) and MSL (Mbc StarLeague). There was another single league run by GomTV but it died some time ago (because of KeSPA reasons and things that are not relevant). There are also some off-season single leagues now and then, but those are minor in the grand scheme of things. The team league (what we call Proleague) is run by both channels together MBC and OGN. There's 2 matches a night, one on each channel. Finals are on both channels at the same time. These news are important because MBC Game is a channel dedicated to video games. Besides the Brood War main shows (MSL, Proleague), MBC also has other shows like MBC Hero Attack (where TL Attack got the idea from), some shows were commentators play with players, an 'amateur' Brood War league etc. Besides that MBC hosts shows on other games like Tekken Crash (fighting game), Special Forces (Counter-Strike korean clone) and if I remember correctly other online games like Kart Rider (mario kart online basically). This means that if MBC is gone, first part of the infrastructure could be gone or re-conditioned for the Kpop music channel. They own a studio where the matches are played. Commentators could lose their job and people who work here. Some of the people could still work for the music channel I guess: camera guys, lighting, make-up, directors, etc. The name would be gone. MSL exists because beside the infrastructure it holds prestige, they have a relationship with KeSPA and teams (Gom league had the cash, but didn't have this). They also have a strong name, which lets them negotiate with big sponsors. + Show Spoiler + So, I don't want to blow this out of proportion, because no news are final yet. But MBC Game closing down (or switching to another thing) would be pretty big for BW and pretty big for any niche Esports in Korea. I do not disagree with your post in the least, but losing half of ProLeague televised coverage is a pretty big deal when you are talking about eSports growth... | ||
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Klonere
Ireland4123 Posts
On August 01 2011 00:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: that would be true if GOM covered games other than SC2. My dream scenario is that GOM has some enormous amounts of cash on hand and acquires MBCGame, retains all its BW infrastructure and programming and keeps the show rolling. This is all so scary T_T | ||
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Ryo
8787 Posts
On August 01 2011 00:59 BLinD-RawR wrote: that would be true if GOM covered games other than SC2. and made epic variety shows like the Hyungjun series, Bnet Attack and Sungchoon Show. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51038 Posts
On August 01 2011 01:06 Ryo wrote: and made epic variety shows like the Hyungjun series, Bnet Attack and Sungchoon Show. yeah them too. | ||
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Weedk
United States507 Posts
On August 01 2011 01:04 Klonere wrote: My dream scenario is that GOM has some enormous amounts of cash on hand and acquires MBCGame, retains all its BW infrastructure and programming and keeps the show rolling. This is all so scary T_T GOM is smaller, doesn't really work out all too well. GOM isn't a TV channel, it's just an internet streamer. | ||
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johngalt90
United States357 Posts
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Jragon
Australia1471 Posts
On July 31 2011 21:45 BLinD-RawR wrote: hes probably talking about Jon747,because it can't be nevake,hell just a few hours ago Hwaseung's official youtube account made a comment on nevake's account  The progame teams know, and apparently approve, of Nevake? Why did Jon747 get taken down then? | ||
ImbaTosS
United Kingdom1716 Posts
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
On August 01 2011 09:42 ImbaTosS wrote: Jon747 was due to WCG content iirc. Not because of Proleague etc. Disappointing that they never got his account back  . Wasn't it just a few videos out of hundred which were a problem? Could have just kept the account but removed the WCG content. | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51038 Posts
On August 01 2011 08:47 johngalt90 wrote: certianly a mixed bag of news. MBC was kinda of crap (foreigner haters) but then again BW is gonna be in trouble also where did you get that from? | ||
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Elefanto
Switzerland3584 Posts
On August 01 2011 02:49 Weedk wrote: GOM is smaller, doesn't really work out all too well. GOM isn't a TV channel, it's just an internet streamer. Yeah, but a daughter of CJ. If MBC goes really down, maybe CJ + Gom could do something, i'm hoping it if it really happens. | ||
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Holgerius
Sweden16951 Posts
On August 01 2011 08:47 johngalt90 wrote: MBC was kinda of crap Get the fuck out. I mean, what makes you say such a thing? | ||
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Goldfish
2230 Posts
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
On August 01 2011 11:59 Elefanto wrote: Yeah, but a daughter of CJ. If MBC goes really down, maybe CJ + Gom could do something, i'm hoping it if it really happens. I can't remember why i think this but isn't OGN also a duaghter of CJ? | ||
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BLinD-RawR
ALLEYCAT BLUES51038 Posts
On August 01 2011 15:43 ShadeR wrote: I can't remember why i think this but isn't OGN also a duaghter of CJ? yes OGN is also a daughter company of CJ,CJ owns On Media,who own OnGameNet. | ||
Spazer
Canada8033 Posts
On August 01 2011 09:21 Jragon wrote: The progame teams know, and apparently approve, of Nevake? Why did Jon747 get taken down then? IIRC, the copyrighted content that got jon747 taken down was related to games played during wcg and/or one of the gom leagues. Don't quote me on that though. | ||
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