• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:25
CET 20:25
KST 04:25
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1816Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises2Weekly Cups (Dec 15-21): Classic wins big, MaxPax & Clem take weeklies3ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !11Weekly Cups (Dec 8-14): MaxPax, Clem, Cure win4
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Weekly Cups (Dec 22-28): Classic & MaxPax win, Percival surprises Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou Starcraft 2 Zerg Coach ComeBackTV's documentary on Byun's Career !
Tourneys
OSC Season 13 World Championship WardiTV Mondays $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship $100 Prize Pool - Winter Warp Gate Masters Showdow Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes Mutation # 504 Retribution Mutation # 503 Fowl Play
Brood War
General
I would like to say something about StarCraft A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ (UMS) SWITCHEROO *New* /Destination Edit/ What monitor do you use for playing Remastered?
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET SLON Grand Finals – Season 2 [BSL21] LB SemiFinals - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
[G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
General RTS Discussion Thread Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Mechabellum
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Survivor II: The Amazon Sengoku Mafia
Community
General
Russo-Ukrainian War Thread US Politics Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI 12 Days of Starcraft
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Ghostwriting Services for Authors and Businesses The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
National Diversity: A Challe…
TrAiDoS
I decided to write a webnov…
DjKniteX
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1013 users

MBCGame to shut down? - Page 81

Forum Index > BW General
1749 CommentsPost a Reply
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 88 Next
Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
mansa
Profile Joined May 2011
Philippines336 Posts
August 01 2011 06:56 GMT
#1601
On August 01 2011 00:50 Zzoram wrote:
I think E-sports in Korea is probably fine. It could only ever handle so much E-sports, and GOM has essentially replaced MBC hasn't it? I mean in terms of there formerly being 2 major E-sports broadcasters in the form of OGN and MBC. We may be losing MBC but we have a much more foreigner friendly GOM in it's place.


GOM is not on TV.. Its an internet thingy.
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
August 01 2011 07:18 GMT
#1602
On August 01 2011 15:49 Spazer wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 09:21 Jragon wrote:
On July 31 2011 21:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 31 2011 21:41 mansa wrote:
On July 31 2011 21:22 evanthebouncy! wrote:
And the saddest of all is how youtube took down all the "copy right infringed" starcraft vods... we used to have all the vods in tact, ALL the games ever played, faithfully recorded. It's such a huge shame they are lost.

i'm sighing in the most audible way



Any link? Of this VODS getting taken down. I haven't looked into VODS lately. :/ And I haven't seen any getting taken down yet.


hes probably talking about Jon747,because it can't be nevake,hell just a few hours ago Hwaseung's official youtube account made a comment on nevake's account
LecafOZ (11 hours ago)
Very Thanks VOD, but there is some mistake. HwaseungOZ Protoss Shy,김유진,is NOT Shy but sOs[KaL]. Please modify player's ID



The progame teams know, and apparently approve, of Nevake? Why did Jon747 get taken down then?

IIRC, the copyrighted content that got jon747 taken down was related to games played during wcg and/or one of the gom leagues. Don't quote me on that though.


And they had to take down the whole account not only the offending content? What a waste
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Greg_J
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
China4409 Posts
August 01 2011 07:37 GMT
#1603
On August 01 2011 15:56 mansa wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 00:50 Zzoram wrote:
I think E-sports in Korea is probably fine. It could only ever handle so much E-sports, and GOM has essentially replaced MBC hasn't it? I mean in terms of there formerly being 2 major E-sports broadcasters in the form of OGN and MBC. We may be losing MBC but we have a much more foreigner friendly GOM in it's place.


GOM is not on TV.. Its an internet thingy.


I agree GomTv is in no way a substitute for MBC Game, even if you consider SC2 as an adequate replacement for Broodwar which I don't there’s still plenty of other games and shows going on on MBC Game which aren't getting replaced by GOM TV which is off air the vast majority of the time and not broadcasting around the clock.

I stated earlier that GSL isn't on TV at all and apparently that was semi wrong because it kind of is but only on pay to watch TV which certainly doesn't replace a whole free to view channel which is gonna bring in a lot more viewers and new support than a channel you have to pay for. People bored and just channel hoping might start watching Broodwar as a result of coming across it on TV which won't happen on pay per view TV.
oshibori_probe
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States2934 Posts
August 01 2011 15:53 GMT
#1604
Gaming seems like a tricky market to get in to let alone stay in. CJ Entertainment tried to take a jab at it with the SuperFight thing but that flopped. I wouldn't necessarily take MBC's decision to scrap gaming to mean broadcasting starcraft on television doesn't make money, just that the owners feel televising korean jersey shore and wondergirls and whatnot will make more.

But anyways, to me the biggest effect of MBC changing gears is that a third to a half of competitive starcraft's quality content will stop. For competitive BW content produced with a professional work ethic there is the OSL, PL, and MSL. Each league has spaced out their matches like any other TV show, put effort into making new maps, and actually put together quality television. The WCG has never came close--they employed wacksteve for how many years?

As for GOM's BW stuff, over half the seats were empty and a bunch of teams didn't even take part. There were times when it kind of felt like the NBA D-League, less prestige and lower levels of competition. Maybe if they bring in MBC Game's staff they can actually make it work, but I'm not terribly optimistic.

Its been a good run MBC. I hope to see quality stuff put together to fill this gap.
Fuck KeSPA.
Slow Motion
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States6960 Posts
August 01 2011 16:58 GMT
#1605
All the time we thought there was a happy marriage between k-pop and BW. Little did we know it was an insidious conspiracy. This means war. Who wants to go destroy every makeup store in South Korea?
Slakter
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden1947 Posts
August 01 2011 17:56 GMT
#1606
On August 02 2011 01:58 Slow Motion wrote:
All the time we thought there was a happy marriage between k-pop and BW. Little did we know it was an insidious conspiracy. This means war. Who wants to go destroy every makeup store in South Korea?

All those K-pop performances before games? They just tried nestling themselves in. Make us feel comfortable with them around us. Maybe even love them. But alas they stabbed a knife in our backs.

Et tu, K-pop?
Protoss, can't live with em', can't kill em'.
Not_Computer
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada2277 Posts
August 02 2011 05:16 GMT
#1607
Oh wow, I can't believe I missed this thread. Horrible horrible! This really better not be the end of an era... Though curious, how much better would a music channel do? I'm sure there's other music channels already in existence, but a channel (and one of the only two channels) for electronic games is pretty unique.
"Jaedong hyung better be ready. I'm going to order the most expensive dinner in Korea."
qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
August 02 2011 05:34 GMT
#1608
On August 02 2011 14:16 Not_Computer wrote:
(one of the only two channels) for electronic games is pretty unique.
Pretty bique, maybe.
'As per the American Heart Association, the beat of the Bee Gees song "Stayin' Alive" provides an ideal rhythm in terms of beats per minute to use for hands-only CPR. One can also hum Queen's "Another One Bites The Dust".' —Wikipedia
dark0dave
Profile Joined November 2010
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 03:09:44
August 03 2011 02:50 GMT
#1609
, nooo more msl. Sad day for BW, time to download every msl game ever. Speaking of which anyone know a torrent for such?

+ Show Spoiler +

All those K-pop performances before games? They just tried nestling themselves in. Make us feel comfortable with them around us. Maybe even love them. But alas they stabbed a knife in our backs.

Et tu, K-pop?


Silly k-pop, mbc is for nerds.
What is dead may never die. BW forever.
FieryBalrog
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States1381 Posts
August 03 2011 08:03 GMT
#1610
At some point we should compile all MSL vods (OK, not every single one, maybe just the top 8s + important matches) and put it up on a torrent.
I will eat you alive
Kiante
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Australia7069 Posts
August 03 2011 09:31 GMT
#1611
On August 03 2011 17:03 FieryBalrog wrote:
At some point we should compile all MSL vods (OK, not every single one, maybe just the top 8s + important matches) and put it up on a torrent.

There is an MSL finals torrent around already (i got it like a year ago or something). same for OGN. as for top 8's...they're not even all up on nevake. since jon747 shut down alot of them were lost
Writer
MadNeSs
Profile Joined March 2007
Denmark1507 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-03 14:41:27
August 03 2011 14:41 GMT
#1612
This is pretty sad, even though I dont actually watch bw anymore, since sc2 was released. But they still have ogn, right? And ogn was always way better than mbc anyways. And what do korea even need two e-sports tv-channels that shows esports 24/7 for anyway? But I will miss MSL though. It had such memorable stories like the savior vs bisu final and the whole bonjwa stuff. I mean, when you look at all the finals there were always the same guy (bonjwa) in atleast 3-4 final in a row.

However if ogn shots down too, I'm gonna be really sad. I never expect bw to die so early. But if it does, it just shows the problem with e-sports. The games just wont last very long. There will always be sequals, which will kill the original game. It has happened to Street fighter 3 (now dominated by sf4), cs 1.6 (dominated by cs:s), SSBM (now taken over by SSBB), and so on.

That's why I believe that e-sports will never become big. The only thing that e-sports has for it, to become is, that games are such a huge part of pop culture. But it will just die out, and maybe blossom for 2-3 years once in a while.

I have alot more to write but i'm to lazy, and most people probably dont care anyways...
Weedk
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States507 Posts
August 03 2011 15:43 GMT
#1613
Recent update with the twitter posts suggest that the staff has nowhere to go with the morbid jokes being said -__-

This is depressing, MBCGame don't goooooo!
dark0dave
Profile Joined November 2010
179 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-04 00:12:06
August 04 2011 00:11 GMT
#1614
If anyone has a copy of that torrent here would be a good place to post it. I am going to seach a few sites I know.
What is dead may never die. BW forever.
meep
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States1699 Posts
August 04 2011 03:39 GMT
#1615
From Milkis' twitter

Wooju Lee
MBC Game states that there are no plans to make changes to the channel within this year. http://t.co/XzRxarn
1 minute ago from web

good for now?
閑静 しずか (ノ・_・)ノ
Gann1
Profile Joined July 2009
United States1575 Posts
August 04 2011 03:42 GMT
#1616
good for four months.
I drop suckas like Plinko
snajper
Profile Joined July 2011
48 Posts
August 04 2011 03:44 GMT
#1617
On August 04 2011 12:39 meep wrote:
From Milkis' twitter

Wooju Lee
MBC Game states that there are no plans to make changes to the channel within this year. http://t.co/XzRxarn
1 minute ago from web

good for now?


It was already said in the first article, its nothing new.

They said that they will make the changes in the next year.
Mykill
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada3402 Posts
August 04 2011 03:58 GMT
#1618
Wow this is pretty huge.
Looks like its the end of an era. Clearly the money is moving away from BW sadly =(
[~~The Impossible Leads To Invention~~] CJ Entusman #52 The problem with internet quotations is that they are hard to verify -Abraham Lincoln c.1863
LuckyMacro
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1482 Posts
August 04 2011 07:17 GMT
#1619
On August 02 2011 02:56 Slakter wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 02 2011 01:58 Slow Motion wrote:
All the time we thought there was a happy marriage between k-pop and BW. Little did we know it was an insidious conspiracy. This means war. Who wants to go destroy every makeup store in South Korea?

All those K-pop performances before games? They just tried nestling themselves in. Make us feel comfortable with them around us. Maybe even love them. But alas they stabbed a knife in our backs.

Et tu, K-pop?


^That T.T lolol

I'm going to fully enjoy and appreciate every game that I am able to watch from now on =/
dampv
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden83 Posts
August 04 2011 08:21 GMT
#1620
On August 01 2011 16:18 Jragon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 01 2011 15:49 Spazer wrote:
On August 01 2011 09:21 Jragon wrote:
On July 31 2011 21:45 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 31 2011 21:41 mansa wrote:
On July 31 2011 21:22 evanthebouncy! wrote:
And the saddest of all is how youtube took down all the "copy right infringed" starcraft vods... we used to have all the vods in tact, ALL the games ever played, faithfully recorded. It's such a huge shame they are lost.

i'm sighing in the most audible way



Any link? Of this VODS getting taken down. I haven't looked into VODS lately. :/ And I haven't seen any getting taken down yet.


hes probably talking about Jon747,because it can't be nevake,hell just a few hours ago Hwaseung's official youtube account made a comment on nevake's account
LecafOZ (11 hours ago)
Very Thanks VOD, but there is some mistake. HwaseungOZ Protoss Shy,김유진,is NOT Shy but sOs[KaL]. Please modify player's ID



The progame teams know, and apparently approve, of Nevake? Why did Jon747 get taken down then?

IIRC, the copyrighted content that got jon747 taken down was related to games played during wcg and/or one of the gom leagues. Don't quote me on that though.


And they had to take down the whole account not only the offending content? What a waste


Youtube works like that, when you violate the copyright laws the first few times the content gets deleted and you get a warning, if you continue to upload illegal material the account gets deleted.
Prev 1 79 80 81 82 83 88 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 17h 36m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 598
BRAT_OK 139
trigger 96
ProTech41
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 23108
Shuttle 597
Horang2 541
Jaedong 399
Dewaltoss 117
Bonyth 74
Shine 8
Dota 2
qojqva3958
febbydoto13
League of Legends
C9.Mang0258
Counter-Strike
fl0m1532
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu435
Khaldor205
Other Games
Grubby5178
FrodaN2867
Gorgc2735
DeMusliM732
mouzStarbuck468
B2W.Neo402
NarutO 36
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 60
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• naamasc243
• intothetv
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• Azhi_Dahaki23
• 80smullet 15
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie2634
• Shiphtur294
Upcoming Events
OSC
17h 36m
Korean StarCraft League
1d 7h
OSC
1d 16h
IPSL
1d 18h
Dewalt vs Bonyth
OSC
1d 22h
OSC
2 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Patches Events
4 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

C-Race Season 1
WardiTV 2025
META Madness #9

Ongoing

IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL Season 21
Slon Tour Season 2
CSL Season 19: Qualifier 2
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W2
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
Escore Tournament S1: W3
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Big Gabe Cup #3
OSC Championship Season 13
Nations Cup 2026
Underdog Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.