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Keep any SC2 vs BW comments out of this thread. This is a thread about Brood War and Esports (Tekken Crash, Special Forces, etc) in general. If you discuss what this means for ESPORTS be sensitive about it.
mmdmmd
Profile Joined June 2007
722 Posts
July 27 2011 09:38 GMT
#621
On July 27 2011 18:33 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 18:30 Spica wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:26 Jragon wrote:
Hell no. Time for OGN to be the Hero

On July 27 2011 18:15 Spica wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:07 Ryo wrote:
An update from Fomos:

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=119604&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

Basically, the management is still discussing this. They haven't made a decision whether or not to proceed with this. Even if they decide to proceed, they still have to seek the approval of the Korean Communications Commission (govt body) if they want to change the gaming channel into a music channel.


Yeah, if MBCGame wanted reactions, they definitely got them.

Looks like the Korean fans want to run over to Mullaedong LOOX HERO Center and voice their protests! I hope that the public outcries are loud enough to convince the KCC to decline the changes!


From those that know - what is the feeling in Korea? Is interest in BW dwindling? Is it generally accepted it will die out over the next few years? What is the reaction to these announcements?

Korean eSports/BW fans/netizens are shocked and OUTRAGED at the news, and Korean interest in BW is definitely not dwindling at all. In fact, more interest may be generated by the news happening right now. It is definitely not generally accepted that BW is going to die out soon amongst Korean eSports fans, and almost every single Korean eSports fan out there is not willing to accept it if it happens. BW is still very popular in Korea today and gets many viewers for live broadcasts on TV.

If the moronic MBC execs do decide to proceed with this, the Korean govt needs to step imo. It's going to be very damaging to esports (not just BW) if the channel completely dissolves. I don't really care if the brand name "MBCGame" doesn't exist any longer, so long as the channel/team survives in some manner.


Isn't e-sport a national sport for Korea? If it still is, then the Gov will step in.
Wedge
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada580 Posts
July 27 2011 09:38 GMT
#622
Fuck THIS

What a shitty piece of news to read right before I head to bed. Literally just punched the desk in frustration. MSL/OSL in my mind always existed as a pair, and it'll feel so weird with just one, and not the other. Bah, godamn, hopefully its not true, but if it does end up going through, its the end of a godamn era. Jesus. Its just not right.
Monokeros
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States2493 Posts
July 27 2011 09:38 GMT
#623
What is going on what the hell music channel this no why TIME DOES NOT MOVE FORWARD IT MUST LOOP FOREVER. This is what it feels like to age NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Keep the Dream Alive twitch.tv/monokerros
GeLaar
Profile Joined January 2003
2421 Posts
July 27 2011 09:39 GMT
#624
The more I think about this, the less sense it makes for them to consider such a move. What was the point of fighting off Blizzard, if they only do one or two more Starleagues after that?! That whole lawsuit only makes sense if they had long-term plans...
Brood War is alive and well.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
July 27 2011 09:39 GMT
#625
KBSGame, how does this sound? lol
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Devolved
Profile Joined April 2008
United States2753 Posts
July 27 2011 09:39 GMT
#626
Sad day indeed. Can't say BW didn't have a good run. And it's still going on OGN so it's not over yet, but it still sucks ass.
$♥$
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 27 2011 09:40 GMT
#627
On July 27 2011 18:37 Kipsate wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 18:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:33 Gridlock wrote:
Wow, this is the biggest, and saddest news since I got in to Starcraft pro-scenes.
Viewer numbers must have gone down?


viewer numbers are still very strong,but it seems kpop viewers are stronger or something,otherwise I don't understand why they're doing this.


Still doesn't make sense, the chances of them getting kpop viewers are going to be low, theyl have to match with the other fcking channels such as Mnet

yeah, this doesnt even make sense...

why would they even do this kind of move, when they were a really successful channel, not even in BW but also in Tekken...
T H C makes ppl happy
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
July 27 2011 09:40 GMT
#628
On July 27 2011 18:32 Kipsate wrote:

to a fucking music channel, and they have fucking no chance of getting ratings on a music channel.


err.... sorry, but in korea teenage girls watch way more tv than teenage boys in korea. they're going to get a significant ratings boost by changing to a music channel.

anyway, this isn't really about ratings, as spica said.
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
IntoTheEmo
Profile Joined February 2009
Singapore1169 Posts
July 27 2011 09:40 GMT
#629
On July 27 2011 18:35 looknohands119 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 18:16 Kipsate wrote:
My hope lies in the KCC it seems.

On July 27 2011 18:16 looknohands119 wrote:
Wow, I feel like I just had the wnd knocked out of me. This is truly the beginning of the end of an era. I know that Broodwar has to make way for Starcraft 2 eventually but it still hurts.


They don't owe SC2 shit.



Watch it man. I'm as disappointed and as hurt as you are. No reason to go hate on your fellow Starcraft brother, especially not right now with all this happening. The only way we can keep Broodwar alive for as long as possible is if we stick together.


Those guys aren't our Starcraft brothers, they're like the evil step brothers showing up at Granny Brood War's funeral demanding part of the inheritence. There are SC2 fans that can read and some who don't.
MMOs kill APM. However Proleague plus BW Proscene music increase APM -> 100. 이제동 Fighting! Highest ranked Jaedong owner in FPL10 = clearly #1 Jaedong fan~! <- Keeping my sig from 2010
_awake_
Profile Joined August 2007
196 Posts
July 27 2011 09:40 GMT
#630
fuck kpop. delete it from your comp. boycott it.
Sawamura
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Malaysia7602 Posts
July 27 2011 09:41 GMT
#631
On July 27 2011 18:39 Ryo wrote:
KBSGame, how does this sound? lol


Sound's awesome as long we have bw tournaments....
BW/KT Forever R.I.P KT.Violet dearly missed ..
zeehar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Korea (South)3804 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-27 09:42:07
July 27 2011 09:41 GMT
#632
On July 27 2011 18:38 mmdmmd wrote:
Isn't e-sport a national sport for Korea? If it still is, then the Gov will step in.


it's literally not a "national sport" in the sense of a "national anthem" or "national flower" or "national animal." the govt won't care...
I AM THE UNIVERSAL CONSTANT
Jragon
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia1471 Posts
July 27 2011 09:41 GMT
#633
On July 27 2011 18:36 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 18:33 Gridlock wrote:
Wow, this is the biggest, and saddest news since I got in to Starcraft pro-scenes.
Viewer numbers must have gone down?


viewer numbers are still very strong,but it seems kpop viewers are stronger or something,otherwise I don't understand why they're doing this.


Need more Star Girls

On July 27 2011 18:30 Spica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 18:26 Jragon wrote:
Hell no. Time for OGN to be the Hero

On July 27 2011 18:15 Spica wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:07 Ryo wrote:
An update from Fomos:

http://www.fomos.kr/board/board.php?mode=read&keyno=119604&db=issue&cate=&page=1&field=&kwrd=

Basically, the management is still discussing this. They haven't made a decision whether or not to proceed with this. Even if they decide to proceed, they still have to seek the approval of the Korean Communications Commission (govt body) if they want to change the gaming channel into a music channel.


Yeah, if MBCGame wanted reactions, they definitely got them.

Looks like the Korean fans want to run over to Mullaedong LOOX HERO Center and voice their protests! I hope that the public outcries are loud enough to convince the KCC to decline the changes!


From those that know - what is the feeling in Korea? Is interest in BW dwindling? Is it generally accepted it will die out over the next few years? What is the reaction to these announcements?

Korean eSports/BW fans/netizens are shocked and OUTRAGED at the news, and Korean interest in BW is definitely not dwindling at all. In fact, more interest may be generated by the news happening right now. It is definitely not generally accepted that BW is going to die out soon amongst Korean eSports fans, and almost every single Korean eSports fan out there is not willing to accept it if it happens. BW is still very popular in Korea today and gets many viewers for live broadcasts on TV.

My 4000th post in this thread of all threads... *Sadface* Oh well.



OK, the passion among converted followers remains high, as expected in those who understand the depth and beauty of this wonderful game. How about recruiting new followers? Are the kids still playing BW?
"Bisu is just too good." - Jaedong (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=218995) "Bisu hyung's play is just too good" - Flash (http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=225861)
Kipsate
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Netherlands45349 Posts
July 27 2011 09:42 GMT
#634
On July 27 2011 18:39 Ryo wrote:
KBSGame, how does this sound? lol


Ill take whatever I can.
WriterXiao8~~
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
July 27 2011 09:42 GMT
#635
On July 27 2011 18:39 Ryo wrote:
KBSGame, how does this sound? lol


so KBS is taking over or is this some joke?
Brood War EICWoo Jung Ho, never forget.| Twitter: @BLinDRawR
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Ribbon
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5278 Posts
July 27 2011 09:42 GMT
#636
On July 27 2011 18:30 mmdmmd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 18:29 Ribbon wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:18 Kipsate wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:17 Ribbon wrote:
So, what happens to MBCGame's rights to broadcast BW games? Are those rights for sale?

Probably someone will snap them up and do a slightly smaller "MSL" tournament.

It won't be the same though.

On July 27 2011 18:05 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:01 moopie wrote:
On July 27 2011 18:00 PlosionCornu wrote:
what the hell is wrong with august.

Can we get a more in depth article/translation anywhere please?

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=248168&currentpage=3#60

meant # not reply, fixed.


now the question in my mind is,will anibox take up BW?


That would be WEIRD, having GSL and...ASL? on the same channel. It's certainly possible, though.

I was more of an OSL guy (because nukethestars was :3) I feel like I missed out now, in a way I haven't really for BW in a long time.

Can we have a "MSL memories" thread, with VODs/clips of all the best MSL moments? That's probably the best way to mark the occasion.

When's the last MSL game? It should take over the site when it happens, the way the TSL3 promos did back when that was happening.


Seeing as MSL beats the shit out of GSL in viewer figures, it wouldn't be much of a stretch though.


Oh, of course. I'm sure Anibox would want the rights. It would just be weird. (Not as weird as GOM doing it, though, even though they've done it before).

I'm pretty sure someone will take it up, though. There's still tons of money in BW.

Who would the best people be to do it? I know BW fans don't like GOM a lot, but they're really good at getting foreigners to watch GSLs, and I think getting more foreigners to watch BW and support it is a fairly rich and undervalued revenue mine.


The Chinese?


Sure. I was thinking more Sweden or the West Coast of the US, which have "e-sports" scenes, but not BW specifically. Fly TLBS down to Anaheim for some show matches, and hand out fliers with a website where people can watch BW games with English commentary, ad-supported.

League of Legends at Dreamhack this year got something like 200,000 viewers, just because it had good advertising (link to stream in the game client). I'm going to avoid the BW/SC2 thing because it's touchy, but I'm pretty sure BW can beat fucking LoL if the foreign BW community puts enough oomph into it, and starts proselytizing a bit more, and if the BW scene reaches out a bit more.

Yeah, it'll take a few years to pay off, but doomsayers aside, BW isn't going to up and die in the near future.
Sinedd
Profile Joined July 2008
Poland7052 Posts
July 27 2011 09:42 GMT
#637
On July 27 2011 18:40 _awake_ wrote:
fuck kpop. delete it from your comp. boycott it.

thats the BW gods revenge upon us, for listening to this shit when we were watching BW streams

!!!

T H C makes ppl happy
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
July 27 2011 09:42 GMT
#638
On July 27 2011 18:39 Ryo wrote:
KBSGame, how does this sound? lol


they could call it whatever they want, as long as theres bw
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
gamecrazy
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States421 Posts
July 27 2011 09:42 GMT
#639
THIS IS TERRIBLE. It's like almost half of BW just up and died

It has been a great run. I hope OGN carries on the torch.
L3g3nd_
Profile Joined July 2010
New Zealand10461 Posts
July 27 2011 09:43 GMT
#640
thats bad, :S
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