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On July 22 2011 01:45 motiust wrote:
In a corporate world this is called a organizational wide restructure, basically they want to cut off the dead weight either thru trades or re-contracting (pay re-adjustments) or discontinue contracts (FIRED).
They should start by cutting off the coach, then.
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Bring back Coach Cho, but for STX imo.
This really sucks, I keep coming into the thread expecting updates on trades TT
I guess no one wants to trade for PL season.
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I am on the edge of my seat for updates on this. Anything could happen.
I think it's hard to make a judgement on the coach from the snippets we see. But this is a very radical move.
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I want my own SC Pro Team =D
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I'd give Flash for Tossgirl. I'd give anything for her and it would raise team morale.
But Bogus is looking great lately, Shuttle has obvious potential, they got play-offs... what the fuck is the problem? Some teams can't win every time. If every team did this as soon as there was a failure there would be no team. I think KeSPA should stop this, intervene somehow.
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On July 22 2011 03:55 infinity2k9 wrote:
I'd give Flash for Tossgirl. I'd give anything for her and it would raise team morale.
But Bogus is looking great lately, Shuttle has obvious potential, they got play-offs... what the fuck is the problem? Some teams can't win every time. If every team did this as soon as there was a failure there would be no team. I think KeSPA should stop this, intervene somehow.
KeSPA has no control over what STX does to the team that they are sponsoring.
STX could be like, "yo, SouL, if you don't win this proleague or an individual title soon, we're gonna pull sponsorship"
Coach is now like FUUUUUUU
And this is why this is happening. I don't think KeSPA can really do anything but make sure the players don't get screwed if their contracts aren't expired or something.
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I hope KT doesn't acquire another player who slumps or sinks into/remains in mediocrity. "hey this bogus guy has potential!" Although to be fair it's a bit early to say anything about Crazy-hydra.
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Are trades even allowed while the playoffs are underway...?
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On July 22 2011 04:41 reincremate wrote:
I hope KT doesn't acquire another player who slumps or sinks into/remains in mediocrity. "hey this bogus guy has potential!" Although to be fair it's a bit early to say anything about Crazy-hydra.
Crazy Hydra wins at least 50%. The current failure trade is Action imo.
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On July 20 2011 12:31 lbmaian wrote:
When do player contracts typically expire each year?
August. My understanding is that all Kespa contracts are set to expire in August. iNcontroL said as much on SotG not long ago. There is a measurable amount of paranoia that all the money in SC2 is gonna convert some players at that time.
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Really?
Doesn't make me want to carry that team tag for much longer, tbh. ---v
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yo STX, this could be REALLY good for BW scene. This way, we get a whole new team, whole new atmosphere, whole new chemistry between players. Other teams will get something new too. I am actually pretty excited for this news. If everything works out fine, I will actually change my icon back to STX!
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This is so weird...
I can't imagine STX coming out stronger after this.
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Maybe STX could trade some of its core players for some of Khan's rookies,
but seriously I don't see anyone willing to go to a team that if necessary puts up their entire player roster for trade.
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On July 22 2011 07:30 PH wrote:
This is so weird...
I can't imagine STX coming out stronger after this.
They won't. Even if the point of it was to trade their older members like Kal and Calm for newer promising rookies, going with the "fire sale! everything must go!" approach doesn't make you very appealing to trade with. They will probably only get lowball offers. Besides, all the players that don't end up transferring will lose whatever morale they had left since their coach essentially declared he'd be happy to get rid of them all. No matter the outcome of this mess this is going to ruin their fanbase.
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On July 22 2011 06:03 lone_hydra wrote:Show nested quote +On July 22 2011 04:41 reincremate wrote:
I hope KT doesn't acquire another player who slumps or sinks into/remains in mediocrity. "hey this bogus guy has potential!" Although to be fair it's a bit early to say anything about Crazy-hydra. Crazy Hydra wins at least 50%. The current failure trade is Action imo.
Let's be fair: KT picked up Action as a 2nd year player this season, aka a prospect/project. Further, they did it not on a trade but in the eSTRO disbandment draft, just about optimal conditions.
Given all that, even if he hasn't come along quite as fast as KT hoped, Action's 24-26 record this year (minus playoffs) is a huge improvement over any Zerg they've had since Luxury, even if it's a practically identical to his 28-25 record last year (as eSTRO's #2 no less).
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I've been thinking about it.. and i think that SKT, for example, isnt in the need of any trade. I see OZ, FOX, MBC and KT benefiting from trades, though, but i dont know if they got anyone of value that would be dispensable to trade for a STX player.
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On July 22 2011 09:52 night terrors wrote:
I've been thinking about it.. and i think that SKT, for example, isnt in the need of any trade. I see OZ, FOX, MBC and KT benefiting from trades, though, but i dont know if they got anyone of value that would be dispensable to trade for a STX player.
The following assumes STX is at least sort of sane and Bogus is the one player not being traded no matter what.
(SKT: Depending what we all think of Ssak, could maybe use a newer Terran to back up fantasy. Could definitely use an A Zerg, though they don't really need it or seem to care. Potential interest: Classic, Calm, maybe by.hero, but don't need any of them.)
CJ: LOL no. With EffOrt back, two-deep across the board.
KT: No Terran depth unless BarrackS improves a ton, weak Protoss if Violet doesn't come back for the next season. They've invested a lot in their Zergs. Potential interest: Kal, Shuttle, Classic.
Woongjin: Set for Zergs. Solid at Terran. Need a good Protoss badly. Potential interest: Kal, Shuttle.
Samsung KHAN: Solid Protoss and Terran due to the rookie (soon to be 2nd year) depth. Could use another good Zerg - Juni as the #2 is almost as ludicrous as WeMade's old problem of Rock as #1 Protoss. Potential interest: Calm, by.hero.
STX SouL: Has a litter of mediocre Zergs (by.hero, Modesty, hyvaa), may be willing to part with Calm and/or Kal for the right reinforcement. Ought to be looking to build a younger team around Bogus: Most natural trading partners are KHAN, MBC due to Zerg issues.
WeMade FOX: Still has good Terran and Zerg depth. Protoss should be fine assuming Wooki improves and Pure doesn't lose too many games in a row. On the other hand, swapping Midas and/or Major for Kal would make sense for both STX and FOX. Potential interest: Kal.
Hwaseung OZ: Zerg is set. OZ has apparently invested a lot in their newer Protoss players. They do have a definite need on the Terran line, even assuming HiyA comes back to A-class form. Potential interest: Classic.
MBCGame HERO: Sea (and theoretically RuBy) are a decent enough Terran solution. Jaehoon and Tyson is a surprisingly competent Protoss line. HyuN's a definite weak point, as is the fact that they basically only have 5 competent players for next year. Potential deal: Jaehoon or Tyson for at least two of STX's Zerg swarm.
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Does anybody else miss Hwasin so bad it hurts?
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On July 22 2011 15:56 orangeshines wrote:
Does anybody else miss Hwasin so bad it hurts?
Me i miss his imba d-matrix TVZ style 
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