I hope none of the Zs head to SKT. We've seen what happens with the Zs that got bought by SKT.

KT does have a solid Protoss in Stats, but not much depth in the Protoss lineup otherwise. I think they might look at Shuttle/Kal. Wemade needs a Protoss period. Same with Stars.

Oz, I'd like to see pick up Calm. The protoss line is developing, but Sky/sHy are still fairly inexperienced. I'd like to see one of Kal or Shuttle come to Oz. Then again, if Kal has to play more games against JD.....

Ryo

8787 Posts

July 22 2011 07:09 GMT

#602

On July 22 2011 12:15 VGhost wrote:

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MBCGame HERO: Sea (and theoretically RuBy) are a decent enough Terran solution. Jaehoon and Tyson is a surprisingly competent Protoss line. HyuN's a definite weak point, as is the fact that they basically only have 5 competent players for next year. Potential deal: Jaehoon or Tyson for at least two of STX's Zerg swarm.

Right, MBC should totally trade one of their reliable protosses for 2 unreliable STX zergs so we can go from 5 competent players to 4 competent players.

DirtYLOu

575 Posts

July 22 2011 07:12 GMT

#603

I would love to see Oz pick up someone... Im tired of seeing dong and killer only handling the proleagues TT

But on the other hands oz doesnt have anyone to give for trade TT

orangeshines

United Kingdom202 Posts

July 22 2011 07:13 GMT

#604

On July 22 2011 16:03 Sawamura wrote:

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Me i miss his imba d-matrix TVZ style

I miss everything..... even him losing to DTs over and over and over again

hauton

Hong Kong743 Posts

July 22 2011 07:18 GMT

#605

On July 21 2011 10:36 RJGooner wrote:

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This is not even close to a fair trade. Bogus is way better than Action.

But gosh Action is the awesome Mafia Zerg! He never chokes and is the great next hope of the Zerg race! The heir ascendant!

How could you possibly turn down such raw, unbridled talent, brimming with utmost confidence and a paragon of reliability and execution?

Torenhire

United States11681 Posts

July 22 2011 07:24 GMT

#606

Go away, that trade would totally be bogus.

No deal.

Piege

United Kingdom128 Posts

July 22 2011 10:26 GMT

#607

I'd like to see OZ trade (P)

PerfectMan for (T)

Last. Although (T)

Classic would be more favored trade I don't think STX would agree to that.

Docmedical

Libya75 Posts

July 22 2011 11:33 GMT

#608

That would be hilarious if no trades occur. All the players would be forever STX

Can we get a foreverstx.jpg done or something :D

Evs

Philippines330 Posts

July 22 2011 13:44 GMT

#609

STX players need a special training camp to raise moral to allow them better focus, not have this uncertainty over their heads. Maybe STX can get one of CJ's (-_-) players since Effort is returning soon.

Sawamura

Malaysia7602 Posts

July 22 2011 13:46 GMT

#610

seriously stx should hire a sport psychologist for their team it would definitely bring some change >< !

Dandy4

United States493 Posts

July 22 2011 15:37 GMT

#611

On July 22 2011 19:26 Piege wrote:
I'd like to see OZ trade (P)

PerfectMan for (T)

Last. Although (T)

Classic would be more favored trade I don't think STX would agree to that.

I think Pman was actually not too bad this season, I would trade Hiya.

Sawamura

Malaysia7602 Posts

July 22 2011 15:39 GMT

#612

On July 23 2011 00:37 Dandy4 wrote:

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I think Pman was actually not too bad this season, I would trade Hiya.

Classic in his own class is better than hiya imo though .

e_i_pi_1_0

933 Posts

July 22 2011 16:15 GMT

#613

On July 23 2011 00:37 Dandy4 wrote:

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I think Pman was actually not too bad this season, I would trade Hiya.

Hm....while HiyA was 9-20 in regular PL this season (horrendous knowing what he's capable of), his WL performance was 18-9 or something like that. He's always stepped up his game for WL; he just likes randomly trolling Oz outside of WL. Perfectman, on the other hand, is 10-13 in PL (not too bad), but only 6-8 in WL this year. It's really hard to say which one of the two would be more important for Oz at this point.

In terms of net skill, I never felt that PM could really become anything other than a sniper, while HiyA would be overall really good player if he'd just fix that TvT of his. -_-

icystorage

Jollibee19343 Posts

July 22 2011 16:19 GMT

#614

killer for kal

pros:
oz having a a better P
better P = better practices vP matches
experience

cons:
lose young developed player
loses depth in Z

but idk if its a fair deal on both sides tho

RinesOnRx

Canada74 Posts

July 22 2011 16:19 GMT

#615

I read the original article from the source that cannot be named. The coach said something like some players are likely to perform better in a new environment. I agree because veterans like Calm and Kal who have the skills to get 30+wins with 55%+ winrates did not meet their expectations this season. I think trading players like Kal and Calm would be good for STX and the players provided that its a decent trade.

List of players I want to see on STX that can be realistically acquired:
Hiya
Free (he is definitely capable of doing better and can really use a new team as well)
Wooki
Roro
Turn
Grape
Baby (difficult to acquire, but maybe for Calm?)
Skyhigh

e_i_pi_1_0

933 Posts

July 22 2011 16:27 GMT

#616

On July 23 2011 01:19 icystorage wrote:
killer for kal

pros:
oz having a a better P
better P = better practices vP matches
experience

cons:
lose young developed player
loses depth in Z

but idk if its a fair deal on both sides tho

Probably would've seemed like a good deal if Killer was at the 09-10 season level. This season, however, he's proven himself as a pretty solid Zerg, becoming a reasonably solid A-teamer (17-18 in PL, 16-9 in WL), and advancing in Starleagues as well. Kal, on the other hand, is not doing as well in PL (14-21 in PL, 15-11 in WL), and out of both MSL and OSL.

icystorage

Jollibee19343 Posts

July 22 2011 17:24 GMT

#617

On July 23 2011 01:27 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote:

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(all are speculations below)

but considering the contributions of kal except pl wins, he brings much to the table
he could be a much better practice partner
his experience could help mentor the younger players
and a potential Ace player, having killer and jaedong gives the other team only 1 race to practice for, unlike having kal, they'd prepare for P too (considering kal could go back to his older form, but the new atmosphere and playing jaedong in the house would help)

and for STX's side of the deal
they could get a consistent contributor for pl results
could make a good core of bogus, shuttle and killer
killer could shine more

Lannix

United States87 Posts

July 22 2011 18:01 GMT

#618

On July 22 2011 15:56 orangeshines wrote:
Does anybody else miss Hwasin so bad it hurts?

Hwasin will always be my favorite player

Otakusan

United States59 Posts

July 22 2011 18:02 GMT

#619

STX has such a good lineup. I have a feeling the problem might be with the management (hence causing problems with team spirit). I predict whoever gets traded to STX will slump.

On July 22 2011 22:46 Sawamura wrote:
seriously stx should hire a sport psychologist for their team it would definitely bring some change >< !

^ this.