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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 23 2011 13:14 GMT
#121
Some posts in this thread really makes me sad.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 23 2011 13:18 GMT
#122
On June 23 2011 22:00 BLinD-RawR wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 21:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 21:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
On June 23 2011 20:59 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 20:44 TheSubtleArt wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?

No, I don't sound ridiculous.
Yes, I don't like those who complain and look for excuses elsewhere.
Show me a match where Flash grimaced after he had won a game?


yes,you do sound ridiculous.

If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.

Do I have to spoonfeed this to every single person? I though I was quite clear with that.
What I don't understand is what you're trying to say? That I look ridiculous when judge person for arrogant attitude. Well everyone knows that Flash is a bit cocky. Well I have a right to say that I don't like it. Where am I ridiculous and what do you find so ridiculous is a question to me?

"And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins?" I don't blame him for being happy when he wins, but for intentional "theatre" of his injuries when he loses.


Yes you have a right to say that you don't like,but its ridiculous to go on and on about it because you can't do anything about it,you can't control what he says in an interview,what you say does not make any difference to what he says in an interview unless you went up to him an said "you flash I don't like that you keep complaining about your arms,makes you sound like a drama queen etc,etc."but then you would come off as rude yourself,wouldn't you?:p

all I'm saying is,hes gonna keep talking about his wrist because its an important topic of discussion when it comes to him.

I can't. All I can is write about my opinion and impression. But its just my opinion, someone thinks this is ok, someone thinks that is ok too. I was accused of what I feel and think is wrong, I objected and tried to explain, it took hell of a time and space. My point was, being humble and laconic is what I prefer in ppl to being talkative and a bit cocky. That's it. Flash was always giving an impression of being the former, what can I do about that? Should I go to Korea, buy him a beer and ask stop doing it -- well, that is ridiculous)

We all need a healthy competition from Flash, after all.
Darth Vader
Profile Joined June 2011
United States50 Posts
June 23 2011 13:28 GMT
#123
On June 23 2011 20:44 TheSubtleArt wrote:
You're hating a guy for talking about his wrist injury in an interview when specifically asked
Show nested quote +
Q: How bad is the injury/illness?
? And then you're labeling him arrogant for showing some semblance of emotion when he wins? Do you not see how ridiculous you sound?

Wrong quote. Go back up, and you see where the issue lies:

Q: First thought on making it to the starleague group stage?
A: I'm happy to have made it. If I lost and fell out of the starleague dual tournament today, I would have to climb all the way from the preliminaries next season. I will not repeat the mistakes I made last season.

ok, standard reply so far...

Q: You won easily in set 1.
A: I knew that I would advance out of the group if I clenched set 1.

still no problemo...

Q: Did you know for sure you would be fine against (T)Bogus and (Z)HyuN?
A: To be honest I wasn't too confident, because I didn't have the amount of practice I would normally have. When I saw the groups get sorted out, I knew I would be ok in my group. Advancing with a 2-1 record isn't the best case scenario, but at the end I advanced and I shall be happy with that.

uh-oh... now he's hinting on it. was he simply waiting for the opportunity...

Q: You played intensely in the winners' set.
A: I wasn't able to hold my mouse properly at times because of my arm. With physical conditions bothering me, I couldn't quite focus fully in the game. I still tried my best until the end so that I can be ready for the final set.

BAM! Out of nowhere! He is the victim. Doesn't give credit to his opponent and gives an excuse. And then he finishes up with this "try my best" shit.

prototype got it right immediately:
On June 23 2011 15:38 prototype. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha

Flash brought up the topic first.


On June 23 2011 21:11 BLinD-RawR wrote:
yes,you do sound ridiculous.

If you don't like what Flash says in his interviews,don't comment.

Don't listen to this guy. What could you expect from a guy who joined TL only April 2010 and has 8000 posts! Can you believe that?!! At my rate I'd be lucky to reach 1000 before the year is over. I'm with you here Koka-Kola. They may be many, but you will not be bullied.

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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 23 2011 13:41 GMT
#124
Ya, how many posts per month someone has is really relevant to the content within them.

I'm sick of people coming into Flash interview-threads and giving him shit. Playing SC is this kids life, it's his career and it's in fucking danger. Behead him if he dares opening his mouth regarding this issue, right?

I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
johanes
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Czech Republic2227 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:47:25
June 23 2011 13:47 GMT
#125
Well some people don't miss the opportunity to insult the best Starcraft player ever... If You've followed SC for long time enough, you would now that Flash is one of the best mannered progamers and doesn't have a reason to find excuses for his loses (he was in much worse situation and blamed only himself). His wrist condition is clearly very bad and if it was one of the reason for his loss, it's only ok to say so. Lot of dispensable hatred in this thread.
Polemarch
Profile Joined August 2005
Canada1564 Posts
June 23 2011 13:47 GMT
#126
Flash just admitted he's feeling depressed; he's human. There's no need to rag on him for wanting to talk about an injury that's threatening his career, causing him physical pain, and bringing him down. Despite his godlike SC skills, he's younger than most of TL too. Give him some credit for manning up to play and advancing anyway.
I BELIEVE IN CAPITAL LETTER PUNISHMENT!!!!!
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 13:49:51
June 23 2011 13:48 GMT
#127
To be honest, Flash's recent interviews are actually worth reading because there is something beyond the old "He played well", "I have huge passion to win this Starleague", etc. In fact, this interview was the only one I actually wanted to read because its was going to talk about his current condition and he's not the type of guy to dodge these questions.

Korea seems to be churning out so many robots that whenever someone says something "out of line", in this case its not remotely close to being controversial like "Hyun/Bogus is a scrub, can't even beat me", people go nuts.
tabula rasa
Profile Joined December 2010
360 Posts
June 23 2011 13:48 GMT
#128
What the fuck is wrong with you people.

You literally make these forums worse.
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
June 23 2011 13:49 GMT
#129
I don't even see how it's controversial to talk about this. Not at all.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
quuad
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Sweden77 Posts
June 23 2011 13:53 GMT
#130
Thanks for the translations OpticalShot!

I'm relieved to read Flash is looking to take care of his wrist. I sincerely hope it can be cured.

Sovetsky Soyuz
Profile Joined May 2011
Russian Federation905 Posts
June 23 2011 13:55 GMT
#131
For the first time, I can honestly write LOL while physically laughing out loud. Im like a madman laughing alone here at work reading between the Interview thread and the LR. hahaha. good times
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
June 23 2011 14:01 GMT
#132
Regarding grimace in the game vs Hyun.
Fomos version of the interview is a bit differ, and have some additional info:

Flash:
For the first time in my life I took a Tylenol before a game. My arm is aching too


2 Darth Vader
Leave red for the mods please, it is disturbing and lame way to bring attention to yourself.
BLinD-RawR
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
ALLEYCAT BLUES50121 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 14:10:35
June 23 2011 14:08 GMT
#133
On June 23 2011 22:55 Sovetsky Soyuz wrote:
For the first time, I can honestly write LOL while physically laughing out loud. Im like a madman laughing alone here at work reading between the Interview thread and the LR. hahaha. good times


yeah its getting a bit silly now,but this shit needs to end soon.There's just waaay too much hate,even from me.

@ darth vader,what does my post count have to do with anything about what I said?
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gostunv
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Japan1178 Posts
June 23 2011 14:10 GMT
#134
On June 23 2011 22:28 Darth Vader wrote:


Show nested quote +
Q: You played intensely in the winners' set.
A: I wasn't able to hold my mouse properly at times because of my arm. With physical conditions bothering me, I couldn't quite focus fully in the game. I still tried my best until the end so that I can be ready for the final set.

BAM! Out of nowhere! He is the victim. Doesn't give credit to his opponent and gives an excuse. And then he finishes up with this "try my best" shit.



wow you are one hateful (blinded) person.

so i guess athletes are never allowed to talk about any sort of injury that hinders their performance?

besides JD and Flash are very good friends. they dont need to talk publicly about how well the other played or not.

hopefully they both meet in the Finals. When both are in top condition.
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xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 23 2011 14:27 GMT
#135
On June 23 2011 17:57 kuroshiroi wrote:
Good old Jaedong, playing team melee against Speed and Bee. No wonder his ZvT has gotten so good lately. Clearly Flash needs to get KT to buy some zerg team melee practice partners if he wants to improve his TvZ to the point of being able to win against JD again.

JD hwaiting~

Seriously, its team melee? I thought the Oz rookies just took turns against JD to not get discouraged from constant losing. Any backing to that data? It does seem suspicious that JD always practices with B-team guys and not Light or Sea etc.
Aah thats the stuff..
ffreakk
Profile Joined September 2010
Singapore2155 Posts
June 23 2011 14:32 GMT
#136
Well, after the others pointed it out, i read it again that its true Flash is the one to bring it up first this time. He should have opened up with comments on Jaedong's performance first, imo. Although of course its perfectly fine that he mentioned his poor condition (like many others mentioned, other Pros do it all the time, from having a cold (Tyson, BeSt, Bisu, whoever else), having to take a dump/stomach pain (Jangbi), or having to piss (Shine), not to mention all that stuffs about being unfocused or losing motivation or whatnot.).

So yea, while i see where the haters are coming from, its kinda only a small fault from Flash' side.

On June 23 2011 21:19 TheSubtleArt wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 20:42 Nesto wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:29 Yodo wrote:
ITT Flash's haters whine about Flash "whining".


well, they have a good reason, now that flash said it, you can be sure that for the next two years you will hear Flash fanbois say "he would have won if it wasn't for his wrist problems" every time Flash losses...

... on the other hand they already do that anyway.. =)

That won't be a problem cause he's winning everything lol


Haha man, im not hating on Flash, but you do realise that even though he has a good reason, he is on a 5 loss streaks in PL right?
Look. Only Forward. See. Only Victory.
neobowman
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada3324 Posts
June 23 2011 14:32 GMT
#137
Doctor told me that I should be ok to continue my career as a progamer after the treatment.


I'm a Jaedong fan and all but this is amazing news for BW as a whole.
Zhul
Profile Joined February 2010
Czech Republic430 Posts
June 23 2011 14:36 GMT
#138
At least Flash`s injury is not fatal..
kuroshiroi
Profile Joined November 2010
3149 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 14:38:52
June 23 2011 14:37 GMT
#139
On June 23 2011 23:27 xarthaz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 17:57 kuroshiroi wrote:
Good old Jaedong, playing team melee against Speed and Bee. No wonder his ZvT has gotten so good lately. Clearly Flash needs to get KT to buy some zerg team melee practice partners if he wants to improve his TvZ to the point of being able to win against JD again.

JD hwaiting~

Seriously, its team melee? I thought the Oz rookies just took turns against JD to not get discouraged from constant losing. Any backing to that data? It does seem suspicious that JD always practices with B-team guys and not Light or Sea etc.

No facts, sorry, it's just the only thing that fits. I do know Ace admitted to using team melee to prepare for JD (i.e. two guys offraced as zerg) so these B-team practice partners must be using team melee to some degree, otherwise what would the other guy do while waiting for his turn to get dominated?

That's really the only reason I think JD has been able to prepare for somebody like Flash without actually practising against Flash all the time. I suppose Speed and Bee might be practice bonjwas but I find the team melee explanation more likely.
Fly Jaedong, fly!
Motivate
Profile Joined June 2011
2860 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 14:43:55
June 23 2011 14:38 GMT
#140
wow even as a zero/JD fan i cannot believe how people cannot put their fan bias aside when discussing issues like these. this is someone's health, and when he brings it up people are so quick to trash him about it. pretty hilarious how anti-flash this forum is.

i wonder if the koreans think the same thing
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