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TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 23 2011 09:10 GMT
#81
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.
Remember Violet.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 23 2011 09:23 GMT
#82
On June 23 2011 17:58 4vvhiplash7 wrote:
there are a F***Ton of immature people who always whine when Flash happens to mention his wrist problems... It is a big deal and he is going to talk about it... Get over yourselves!


whining about your problems is pretty immature, actually, if I may say.
As it was said before, Flash himself started this wrist chit, he could have kept silent and do his job. Maybe Flash fans liked that booth theater, but for me it was just hypocritical and sad. Now, according to his interview it appears, that there is nothing so serious, just tired muscles, that need rest. So why then make such a big deal out of this? For the your fans? Maybe. I prefer humble sportsmen that just try to do their best. Honestly, there is nothing wrong with whining. Its just what you like and don't like about ppl.
Womwomwom
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
5930 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 09:30:34
June 23 2011 09:27 GMT
#83
While I think Flash should take a break, I don't think he's in much of a position to do anything. The same goes for Jaedong, neither is in much of a position to do anything because their teams are completely useless without them. They certainly know that, I don't imagine them being so oblivious to the fact of that their teams are really weak, especially after KT literally lost their whole A team besides Stats.

He's not like Kal or Bisu where their god awful performances, while negative to the team's situation, doesn't deep six the whole team. Bisu slumped for the whole of last year and it didn't really matter because you have Fantasy and Best to hold the fort.
Yodo
Profile Joined March 2010
Russian Federation327 Posts
June 23 2011 09:29 GMT
#84
ITT Flash's haters whine about Flash "whining".
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 09:33:18
June 23 2011 09:32 GMT
#85
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 23 2011 09:48 GMT
#86
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


So, you disliked Flash as a person long before you had anything to dislike him as a person for? I mean I guess that explains all your comments against him and we should all just take it with a grain of salt. Oh well.
Remember Violet.
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
June 23 2011 09:54 GMT
#87
I see there are (again) people who have problems with Flash mentioning his wrist. But worry not, I have one mindblowing revelation for you - you don't have to read Flash interviews! Isn't that amazing, huh? No need for thanks, you're welcome!

Anyway, thanks for the translation! I, for one, really enjoyed Flash honest interview and I want as much info about his wrist as I can get.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 23 2011 09:59 GMT
#88
On June 23 2011 18:48 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


So, you disliked Flash as a person long before you had anything to dislike him as a person for? I mean I guess that explains all your comments against him and we should all just take it with a grain of salt. Oh well.

Not attentive. I said that his wrist complaining is not what made me dislike him. A whole bunch of facts, I mentioned that in my previous posts. Now it all sums up.
Dakkas
Profile Joined October 2010
2550 Posts
June 23 2011 10:00 GMT
#89
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have
blue001
Profile Joined January 2009
106 Posts
June 23 2011 10:00 GMT
#90
On June 23 2011 18:54 L0thar wrote:
I see there are (again) people who have problems with Flash mentioning his wrist. But worry not, I have one mindblowing revelation for you - you don't have to read Flash interviews! Isn't that amazing, huh? No need for thanks, you're welcome!

Anyway, thanks for the translation! I, for one, really enjoyed Flash honest interview and I want as much info about his wrist as I can get.


You do realise that complaints != dislike. Negative comments are just as important as positive ones. Imagine if every comment was positive? how boring. Controversies are good at attracting views and bring people together. Actually, I think I enjoy reading complaints more than any other comment.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 23 2011 10:03 GMT
#91
Oh, I'm being too annoying am I? Worry not my friends, its all these cool games that important only. All other things is just an ordinary fan rumbling. Don't engage into it. Be a fan of your true only player.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
June 23 2011 10:04 GMT
#92
On June 23 2011 19:00 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have


I'LL SHOW YOU

I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!
Remember Violet.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 23 2011 10:07 GMT
#93
On June 23 2011 19:00 Dakkas wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have

I wonder, how would you explain "unfounded dislike" now, that you've read my posts?) Or you just want to offend me?
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 23 2011 10:10 GMT
#94
On June 23 2011 19:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 19:00 Dakkas wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have


I'LL SHOW YOU

I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!

This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).
dibban
Profile Joined July 2008
Sweden1279 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 15:54:19
June 23 2011 10:12 GMT
#95
Thank you for the interviews.

+ Show Spoiler [Rant on whine posts] +

To address the whine coming from people - are you not aware that Lee Youngho himself has not known whether or not the pain would ever go away, or if he would be able to continue as a progamer at all. When you play through any type of RSI (which this is 100%) you risk it becoming chronic, i.e you can never get rid of it, only ease the pain.

If Flash would get a chronic RSI, that would be the end of his career. Flash is (perhaps not currently but definitely overall in terms of achievements) the best player in the world, why would his condition and his future not interest you?

"One shouldn't whine about their own problems, everyone has them yada yada". Come on people, this isn't your average "..but...but...but...my toe hurts I can't practise..." He wants inform his fans and friends on how his condition is progressing and/or being treated and perhaps vent some.

I suppose the people making these comments are those who just come to read a nice and happy interview to distance themselves from their own problems, expecting love and flowers and even more flowers. Such a great example of the lack of empathy in the e-sport scene. Wake up, Flashs condition is very real and even the + Show Spoiler [might shock some ignorant people] +
korean are human.


Jaedong has been quite confident in interviews lately. When he drops his modesty, I suspect something is up because he won't performs at 100%.

Glad to see Flash taking the rehabilitation seriously.
이제동 - 이영호 since '07.
c3rberUs
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Japan11622 Posts
June 23 2011 10:14 GMT
#96
Seeing Flash's condition, not career-ending, I breath a sigh of relief. It will be such a waste of talent even though I'm waiting for Flash to exit the OSL.

LOL HawaiianPig's comic is actually right!
WriterMovie, 진영화 : "StarCraft will never die".
L0thar
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
987 Posts
June 23 2011 10:25 GMT
#97
On June 23 2011 19:00 blue001 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 18:54 L0thar wrote:
I see there are (again) people who have problems with Flash mentioning his wrist. But worry not, I have one mindblowing revelation for you - you don't have to read Flash interviews! Isn't that amazing, huh? No need for thanks, you're welcome!

Anyway, thanks for the translation! I, for one, really enjoyed Flash honest interview and I want as much info about his wrist as I can get.


You do realise that complaints != dislike. Negative comments are just as important as positive ones. Imagine if every comment was positive? how boring. Controversies are good at attracting views and bring people together. Actually, I think I enjoy reading complaints more than any other comment.

There are valid complaints and then there are hateful spiteful comments with no value whatsoever. While former have obviously place in every discussion, the later only hinders it. Do you know one of the latest Flash interview thread had to be temporalily locked down because of the shitstorm his haters produced? That's not what I call bringing people together.

So yes, I realize complaints != dislike.
TwoToneTerran
Profile Joined March 2009
United States8841 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-23 10:34:34
June 23 2011 10:32 GMT
#98
On June 23 2011 19:10 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 19:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 19:00 Dakkas wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have


I'LL SHOW YOU

I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!

This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).


I figure it's as legitimate a reason as "He smiles when he loses."
Remember Violet.
Koka-kola
Profile Joined May 2011
241 Posts
June 23 2011 10:52 GMT
#99
On June 23 2011 19:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 19:10 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 19:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 19:00 Dakkas wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
On June 23 2011 13:37 Zariel wrote:
ummm.. i don't think it's possible for flash to not touch a keyboard/mouse for 2 weeks... the 'itch' (the itch to pwn everyone, itch to be god) will get to him

lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have


I'LL SHOW YOU

I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!

This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).


I figure it's as legitimate a reason as "He smiles when he loses."

No
TRAP[yoo]
Profile Joined December 2009
Hungary6026 Posts
June 23 2011 10:58 GMT
#100
On June 23 2011 19:52 Koka-kola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 23 2011 19:32 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 19:10 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 19:04 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 19:00 Dakkas wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:32 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 18:10 TwoToneTerran wrote:
On June 23 2011 17:20 Koka-kola wrote:
On June 23 2011 15:15 Caladbolg wrote:
On June 23 2011 14:00 Darth Vader wrote:
[quote]
lol he is no longer god if you dont know. I read this and I understand why Flash haters feel the way they do. So much drama. He can quit temporarily and get treatment if it bothers him. Why continue playing and martyring himself. He just sounds like a dbag when he whens, and a sour unsportsman loser when he loses. He is using this to his advantage. It is unfortunate that one of the greatest BW player will end this way.


Geez, this is how BW fans treat a progamer for being honest in his interviews? Grow up. The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time. It's part of the game, and should in no way diminish what their opponent accomplishes, only that they were able to transcend their physical limitations. You think the Utah Jazz were pissed off because Jordan was able to torch them for 38 points and complained about a fever? No. They were pissed off because DESPITE him having a fever, they got roflstomped.

I keep noticing this anti-Flash-injury sentiment, and it's getting annoying. Let the man have his say. He keeps getting asked these questions so he'll keep answering them. If you don't like the fact that an injured Flash can still destroy your favorite players, well, tough - deal with it.

On topic:

This is such a good opportunity for Stats/Tempest/Action/CH to step their game up. Also looking forward to Barracks. Right now Hoejja's the ace and a damn good one hahaha


No, this is now his official excuse for every loss, he keeps whining about his wrist, smiling in the booth, being arrogant in his interviews, I like his games, but I can't like him as a person, and yes it is sad, I've never seen JD whine about his stomach problems he used to have several times, or any other progamer!
"The very best in sports talk about their injuries all the time."
Intentionally talking about health problems has nothing to do with sports.


Wrists are very important to esports the same way the body is to professional sports, it's a perfectly apt analogy. That you extrapolate Flash is a bad person for not taking losses too seriously and talking about said injury is baffling to me, it's like you're actively searching for reasons to dislike him. You're perfectly allowed to, but it's just saddening for me that people hate him for such things.

You are partly right, I do use this apt analogy, just to solidify my impression on a person, that I got long before the health discussion arose. I'm just giving my attitude to such kind of things. Its my opinion as a person. I like humble people, that is one of the reasons I like JD, however he also used to be ballsy sometimes, but it looked really qute, and perfectly inplace ^^.


I don't think it's possible to have any less shallow or unfounded dislike for a player as what you have


I'LL SHOW YOU

I hate Jaedong because his name has dong in it and that is clearly obscene, how dare he!

This could be a reason, actually, but I'd think that you've got issues (no offense).


I figure it's as legitimate a reason as "He smiles when he loses."

No

please read the comment dibban made...it was pretty good
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