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Hirmu
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Finland850 Posts
June 15 2011 14:54 GMT
#161
On June 12 2011 15:57 aimaimaim wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 23:12 bITt.mAN wrote:
It's not a Fomos so it's fine.
SK T1 recently did a seminar on humour, in the hopes of improving Bisu the team's social skills and integration. They were taught sarcasm:

[image loading]
"This is a good idea, we approve!"


Also dear babel fish can only do so much to translate Korean sites, I can't find the venue details/address/date information to bombard my older brother with so that he can go :S Plox


Those shoes really hurts my eyes .. damn

the red ones are pretty cool tho
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
June 15 2011 15:15 GMT
#162
On June 12 2011 17:10 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm hearing that the PL sponsor Shinhan Bank had an influence on this, since they are trying to expand to chinese market.

Well whatever it takes to get Shinhan to renew their sponsorship of PL I guess. It expires at the end of this season. It would be disastrous if PL did not have a major sponsor.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
[Azn]Nada
Profile Joined April 2009
United States275 Posts
June 15 2011 15:25 GMT
#163
On June 15 2011 23:54 Hirmu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 15:57 aimaimaim wrote:
On June 10 2011 23:12 bITt.mAN wrote:
It's not a Fomos so it's fine.
SK T1 recently did a seminar on humour, in the hopes of improving Bisu the team's social skills and integration. They were taught sarcasm:

[image loading]
"This is a good idea, we approve!"


Also dear babel fish can only do so much to translate Korean sites, I can't find the venue details/address/date information to bombard my older brother with so that he can go :S Plox


Those shoes really hurts my eyes .. damn

the red ones are pretty cool tho


red ones are aiight, but the barf green and orange shirt/shoe sandwich are visual nightmares
allen_ami
Profile Joined December 2010
China1392 Posts
June 25 2011 18:32 GMT
#164
omg.....hope i can catch up....
Single boy, single boy, single all the way. Online game, masturbate, we go all the way, hey! Single boy, single boy, why can't I be gay? No more wait, no more hate, let us all be gay!
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-25 20:45:14
June 25 2011 20:08 GMT
#165
OK thanks I got what I desired, TY!
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 25 2011 20:19 GMT
#166
Nice, this is on my birthday. :D
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 25 2011 20:46 GMT
#167
Actually, what time is the thing at ??!?
BW4LYF . . . . . . PM me, I LOVE PMs. . . . . . Long live "NaDa's Body" . . . . . . Fantasy | Bisu/Best | Jaedong . . . . .
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 25 2011 21:03 GMT
#168
Well ProLeague and MBC have been running at a loss for quite a while now so even with sponsorship renewed, it seems dubious as to how they could continue in bad business situation. It may be that the leagues are overexpanded for the current market interest. While 3 big leagues mightve been optimal at the height of BW in mid 2000s, with the current decreased interest it is time to wrap up some of the activities, liquidate, and continue the ones that can still turn a profit. Not good change for a fan- but to remain active it may be necessary in next season or so.
On June 16 2011 00:15 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 17:10 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm hearing that the PL sponsor Shinhan Bank had an influence on this, since they are trying to expand to chinese market.

Well whatever it takes to get Shinhan to renew their sponsorship of PL I guess. It expires at the end of this season. It would be disastrous if PL did not have a major sponsor.

Aah thats the stuff..
Enderbantoo
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States465 Posts
June 25 2011 22:31 GMT
#169
i will be attending, need some tl shanghai people to help me out yo!
At the biggest upset of all of bw, Shanghai SPL finals 2011
Zyferous
Profile Joined September 2010
United States270 Posts
June 26 2011 00:20 GMT
#170
I will be attending, hopefully

Can anybody enlighten me on whether or not you have to pay for tickets or sign up for seats?
Jaedong forever.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 26 2011 00:24 GMT
#171
On June 26 2011 06:03 xarthaz wrote:
Well ProLeague and MBC have been running at a loss for quite a while now so even with sponsorship renewed, it seems dubious as to how they could continue in bad business situation. It may be that the leagues are overexpanded for the current market interest. While 3 big leagues mightve been optimal at the height of BW in mid 2000s, with the current decreased interest it is time to wrap up some of the activities, liquidate, and continue the ones that can still turn a profit. Not good change for a fan- but to remain active it may be necessary in next season or so.
Show nested quote +
On June 16 2011 00:15 Ryo wrote:
On June 12 2011 17:10 phosphorylation wrote:
I'm hearing that the PL sponsor Shinhan Bank had an influence on this, since they are trying to expand to chinese market.

Well whatever it takes to get Shinhan to renew their sponsorship of PL I guess. It expires at the end of this season. It would be disastrous if PL did not have a major sponsor.



do u have a source for "running at a loss"?
manner
xarthaz
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
1704 Posts
June 26 2011 01:25 GMT
#172
One of the Koreans here said it here i believe. Im sure they wouldnt lie on a matter as serious as this.
Aah thats the stuff..
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
June 26 2011 02:10 GMT
#173
On June 26 2011 10:25 xarthaz wrote:
One of the Koreans here said it here i believe. Im sure they wouldnt lie on a matter as serious as this.


I'll wait for Rekrul's drunken fire-side chat on the matter :\
[゚n゚] SSSSssssssSSsss ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 27 2011 12:25 GMT
#174
Even if the accounting can show it's "running at a loss" there's actually only one useful metric - to compare the cost of running PL to the costs of producing a televised show that attracts roughly the same audience. (Maybe kdramas or something?)

As long as the cost of running PL is comparable or cheaper than other shows that attract a similar audience (in demographic and size) then PL will remain.

I have a feeling though that when pro BW dies - it will be killed from within. Someone will have killed the goose that lays the golden eyes.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26782 Posts
July 01 2011 08:32 GMT
#175
Oh whoa I just realized that I'm going to be in China till the morning of the 7th...

Except for I need to leave from Beijing...

;_;
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
July 01 2011 08:42 GMT
#176
On July 01 2011 17:32 flamewheel wrote:
Oh whoa I just realized that I'm going to be in China till the morning of the 7th...

Except for I need to leave from Beijing...

;_;


You have 10 hours to go back to Beijing, it's not like PL Grand Finals isn't worth a sleepless night.
EZPZ
ॐ
laLAlA[uC]
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada963 Posts
July 10 2011 22:44 GMT
#177
My friend is in China for the summer. I asked if he was going to see the finals. He said he leaves on the 6th. I nearly cried. ):
I'm an old man now
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
July 10 2011 23:59 GMT
#178
lol, this is gonna be great! Shanghai is an extremely modern city and i think the audience will be huge
xXFireandIceXx
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada4296 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-07-11 00:01:31
July 11 2011 00:00 GMT
#179
i think this might even help the korean tv channels cuz there's no live audience
JohannesH
Profile Joined September 2009
Finland1364 Posts
July 11 2011 00:17 GMT
#180
Well, if they can get a proper audience it should be fine.
If you have to ask, you don't know.
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