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evilfatsh1t
Profile Joined October 2010
Australia8761 Posts
June 09 2011 23:08 GMT
#121
+1 on what white horse is saying
definitely more japanese and chinese tourists coming to korea cause of our entertainment industry, and the countrys overall development in the last decade or so
k.taeyang
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Peru145 Posts
June 09 2011 23:24 GMT
#122
Kespa can suck my balls -.-
노력은 절대 배신 하지 않다 - 이제동 Hardwork never betrays - Lee Jae Dong
Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21244 Posts
June 09 2011 23:40 GMT
#123
On June 10 2011 07:38 white_horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 14:45 Carnivorous Sheep wrote:
On June 09 2011 12:49 white_horse wrote:
On June 09 2011 12:48 Redunzl wrote:
On June 09 2011 12:06 darklordjac wrote:
Why do they keep holding finals in China?

Because China is the hottest country in the world, Koreans are flocking to China for tourism in droves, and more specifically because China has the most gamers per capita of any other nation.


its actually the other way around


What? No it's not?


its not "droves of koreans". I've read articles on korean newspaper websites about newly rich chinese people (from their economic growth) going to korea for kpop concerts, visit korean drama shooting locations, plastic surgery, etc etc


It goes both ways, it's not some unilateral movement from one country to another.
TranslatorBaa!
MangoTango
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States3670 Posts
June 10 2011 00:16 GMT
#124
On June 09 2011 12:19 supernovamaniac wrote:
Aha, I'll be in Korea during that time.

*bangs his head on the wall continuously*


lol well that's kinda ironic.
"One fish, two fish, red fish, BLUE TANK!" - Artosis
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 00:29:15
June 10 2011 00:19 GMT
#125
You know what would be the solution to this? Have the PL finals in a Bo3 series format like the rest of the playoffs instead of just a lameass Bo1 series. That way first match could be held at Shanghai, and the rest held in the Holy Land of Gwangahri Beach. I was always kinda annoyed at how last year's PL final was only Bo1 series anyways.
Writerptrk
swanized
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada2480 Posts
June 10 2011 00:23 GMT
#126
On June 10 2011 09:19 ArvickHero wrote:
You know what would be the solution to this? Have the PL finals in a Bo3 series format like the rest of the playoffs instead of just a lameass Bo1 series. That way first match could be held at Shanghai, and the rest held in the Holy Land of Gwangahnri Beach. I was always kinda annoyed at how last year's PL final was only Bo1 series anyways.

That's a good idea but preparing two venue is probably impossible
Writer
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
June 10 2011 00:50 GMT
#127
On June 10 2011 09:19 ArvickHero wrote:
I was always kinda annoyed at how last year's PL final was only Bo1 series anyways.


Me too...what's the rationale behind this format? Too expensive to host for 3 days?
So close, and yet so far
hellbound
Profile Joined April 2010
United Kingdom2242 Posts
June 10 2011 00:56 GMT
#128
Wasn't that OSL final in a TV tower? If so I don't get all the moaning about venue capacity.
d_so
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)3262 Posts
June 10 2011 01:03 GMT
#129
On June 10 2011 09:23 swanized wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 09:19 ArvickHero wrote:
You know what would be the solution to this? Have the PL finals in a Bo3 series format like the rest of the playoffs instead of just a lameass Bo1 series. That way first match could be held at Shanghai, and the rest held in the Holy Land of Gwangahnri Beach. I was always kinda annoyed at how last year's PL final was only Bo1 series anyways.

That's a good idea but preparing two venue is probably impossible


if they hold it one week apart it might be more feasible. not to mention more EPIC
manner
ZeroChrome
Profile Joined September 2010
Canada1001 Posts
June 10 2011 01:05 GMT
#130
On June 10 2011 09:56 hellbound wrote:
Wasn't that OSL final in a TV tower? If so I don't get all the moaning about venue capacity.


The OSL final had 300 people in the audience, the PL final usually has like 30,000 or more. There will be a serious problem if the biggest event in all of esports has an attendance lower than some PL matches.
Forward
prototype.
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada4215 Posts
June 10 2011 01:45 GMT
#131
This sucks for any koreans that planned on watching the finals live.

Hopefully this turns out good for broodwar in the end.
( ・´ー・`)
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9776 Posts
June 10 2011 02:11 GMT
#132
omfg I'm in china during that time will be trying my absolute best to make it I swear D:
boomer hands
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
June 10 2011 02:26 GMT
#133
On June 09 2011 11:54 Megaliskuu wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2011 11:53 Troxior wrote:
Lets hope its larger than the last shanghai finals held there. While that was cool it was too small. This should be fun this change of venuE!


Seriously that 300 spectators only crap was stupid.

Is BW still big in china?

No worries here. Even without any Chinese fan, if the venue of the final is below 1000 people. Korean people in Shanghai will fill that up easily.
I am leaving Shanghai in July, fuk damn, no PL final for me T_T.
Terran
Emlary
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
China3334 Posts
June 10 2011 02:55 GMT
#134
Fuck, I will be in Shanghai a week ahead of this for another gaming event

Did they say which venue will this be held? Jinshan beach maybe?
No more SKT1, it's SKP2.
synapse
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
China13814 Posts
June 10 2011 03:26 GMT
#135
On June 09 2011 12:01 Xiphos wrote:
Does China even have BW fans anymore?

From what my cousin tells me, most of the old BW fans are still BW fans. Mostly WC3 players have moved to SCII.
:)
iloahz
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States964 Posts
June 10 2011 03:31 GMT
#136
http://www.gamefy.cn/view_8968.html

so gamefy is saying that OGN is planning a new esports league in China, details of which remain secretive for now. Some are speculating a kespa sc2 league since BW in China is pretty much dead. But Kespa doesn't have the right to hold sc2 league so I don't know.
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51496 Posts
June 10 2011 03:39 GMT
#137
kespa-ran in china? i don't think so. however ogn-ran sounds more plausible.
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dtz
Profile Joined September 2010
5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 03:41:21
June 10 2011 03:41 GMT
#138
if kespa/ogn truly cant hold an sc2 league in china, then its pretty likely that it's a Dota league because dota in china is huge and they have wage structures and fans who support it kinda like BW is in Korea. It is also huge in the region ( southeast asia, russia) and they might anticipate the release of dota 2.

Release
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States4397 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 03:44:50
June 10 2011 03:44 GMT
#139
I think kespa may be trying to kill off BW with this.
BRING BACK THE BO3 FORMAT FFS. MAKE IT BO5. JUST HAVE AT LEAST A GAME AT THE BEACH.
☺
eviltomahawk
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States11135 Posts
June 10 2011 03:48 GMT
#140
On June 10 2011 12:41 dtz wrote:
if kespa/ogn truly cant hold an sc2 league in china, then its pretty likely that it's a Dota league because dota in china is huge and they have wage structures and fans who support it kinda like BW is in Korea. It is also huge in the region ( southeast asia, russia) and they might anticipate the release of dota 2.


But does Blizzard have some control over DotA rights since it's technically a mod of WC3? I'm not very familiar with these legal technicalities.

Although GOM has the rights to SC2 in Korea, do those rights extend to Korean organizations trying to arrange for SC2 leagues and broadcasts outside of Korea?

Anyways, this news is great for Chinese fans but quite disappointing for Korean fans. I'm sure the event will draw hordes of Chinese spectators and some hardcore Korean fans, but I dislike the notion of holding such a high-profile event outside of Korea.
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