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On June 10 2011 10:05 ZeroChrome wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 09:56 hellbound wrote:
Wasn't that OSL final in a TV tower? If so I don't get all the moaning about venue capacity. The OSL final had 300 people in the audience, the PL final usually has like 30,000 or more. There will be a serious problem if the biggest event in all of esports has an attendance lower than some PL matches.
It was 300 people because OGN insisted on holding it at the Oriental Pearl Tower. The date was 9/11 so they had to limit the number of spectators. If it was another venue, it would have drawn more than 300 people. Still, I wish the PL final was held in Korea.
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It better be on a beach.
If it isn't on a beach, I riot.
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![[image loading]](http://www.fivb.ch/EN/beachvolleyball/Competitions/WorldTour/2008/venue%20view1.jpg)
i can see it on the beach.
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On June 10 2011 14:41 Ryo wrote:Show nested quote +On June 10 2011 10:05 ZeroChrome wrote:On June 10 2011 09:56 hellbound wrote:
Wasn't that OSL final in a TV tower? If so I don't get all the moaning about venue capacity. The OSL final had 300 people in the audience, the PL final usually has like 30,000 or more. There will be a serious problem if the biggest event in all of esports has an attendance lower than some PL matches. It was 300 people because OGN insisted on holding it at the Oriental Pearl Tower. The date was 9/11 so they had to limit the number of spectators. If it was another venue, it would have drawn more than 300 people. Still, I wish the PL final was held in Korea.
You guys are clearly exaggerating. 300 was the amount of "vip tickets", i.e central bleachers, complimentary OSL usb stick and thunder sticks the color of the player you're cheering for. Anyone could see really well by just sitting on lateral bleachers. All you had to do was getting the tower park ticket which cost 5$. I'd say that we were between 2000 and 3500 people to attend the finals.
The thing they were criticized for, and why you all think there were only 300 seats, is that in every official announcement of the OSL finals they said there would be only 300 tickets, but they forgot to mention it was free to sit outside of the "vip bleachers". In the end many people didn't even come to the venue because they thought they had no chance to get tickets... while they could have watched OSL finals for 5$...
edit : ^^ GTR, isn't that Jinshan beach, the venue Emlary mentioned ?
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yes it is. that picture is from the fiba beach volleyball championships in 2008.
i can just see tens of thousands of people piling up on the beach to watch.
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I'm so disappointed, I thought they cared about the fans in Korea. Turns out the incompetence isn't just confined to KeSPA and Blizzard, they are all bad. I remember the commentators pleading with the fans to stick with Brood War following the scandal and this is how they repay them?
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On June 10 2011 15:11 J1.au wrote:
I'm so disappointed, I thought they cared about the fans in Korea. Turns out the incompetence isn't just confined to KeSPA and Blizzard, they are all bad. I remember the commentators pleading with the fans to stick with Brood War following the scandal and this is how they repay them?
It could turn out to be a good move to please the sponsors, I dunno. It's this time of the year when there are a lot of rumors floating around. Sigh.
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Why...just do it in Korea...
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I hope they tear down the walls, because that looks way too small as is.
On an unrelated note. I didn't realize how early they set these up. So once a year they just close a large part of a major beach in summer for starcraft? That's pretty cool 
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It's not a Fomos so it's fine.
SK T1 recently did a seminar on humour, in the hopes of improving Bisu the team's social skills and integration. They were taught sarcasm:
![[image loading]](http://img.dailygame.co.kr/news/20110604/20110604_9363e5916520f0e8971e0ae363f69dd8.jpg)
"This is a good idea, we approve!"
Also dear babel fish can only do so much to translate Korean sites, I can't find the venue details/address/date information to bombard my older brother with so that he can go :S Plox
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On June 10 2011 15:11 J1.au wrote:
I'm so disappointed, I thought they cared about the fans in Korea. Turns out the incompetence isn't just confined to KeSPA and Blizzard, they are all bad. I remember the commentators pleading with the fans to stick with Brood War following the scandal and this is how they repay them?
Yeah, that part makes it worse.
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So basically this is a thread mostly filled with people who live neither in China nor Korea and are complaining about the finals venue. And also can someone please explain to me how hosting the finals in China could possibly be bad for professional BW?
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On June 12 2011 11:22 writer22816 wrote:
So basically this is a thread mostly filled with people who live neither in China nor Korea and are complaining about the finals venue. And also can someone please explain to me how hosting the finals in China could possibly be bad for professional BW?
the idea of having the finals in china isn't inherently bad, they have good venues and lots of BW fans there; whats bad is the utter betrayal of thousands of fans in the biggest BW scene in the world. You have the culmination of season's worth of games in korea only to have the final end up somewhere else. I guarentee you there are very passionate and diehard korean fans who have spent a lot of time watching proleague. You spend all this time cheering for a player or team and then the finals, which you have been excited about, is suddenly not going to be in gwang-anri, which you were planning to go to? Do you think every fan in korea has the time and money to travel to shanghai to see a proleague final?
Those korean fans got totally robbed. Someone in the thread said that kespa is taking korean fans for granted and I think thats true. The more disgusted people feel, the less they will watch. It's really meaningless to spread BW abroad if support at home falls. Now this probably isn't going to happen just because one proleague final happened to take place elsewhere but given how much korean people are pissed with kespa and others who are running the show, I don't get why they think it's a good idea.
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Well duh. The spending power of chinese people in Shanghai is huge.
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On June 10 2011 23:12 bITt.mAN wrote:It's not a Fomos so it's fine. SK T1 recently did a seminar on humour, in the hopes of improving Bisu the team's social skills and integration. They were taught sarcasm: "This is a good idea, we approve!" Also dear babel fish can only do so much to translate Korean sites, I can't find the venue details/address/date information to bombard my older brother with so that he can go :S Plox
Those shoes really hurts my eyes .. damn
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I'm hearing that the PL sponsor Shinhan Bank had an influence on this, since they are trying to expand to chinese market.
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During the KT-SKT series, a commentator (Shark I think) still referred to Gwangahri when talking about the first place ticket to the finals.. Probably a simple mistake but wishful thinking leads me to hope for Bo3 series final in China and Korea..
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On June 12 2011 13:55 white_horse wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2011 11:22 writer22816 wrote:
So basically this is a thread mostly filled with people who live neither in China nor Korea and are complaining about the finals venue. And also can someone please explain to me how hosting the finals in China could possibly be bad for professional BW? the idea of having the finals in china isn't inherently bad, they have good venues and lots of BW fans there; whats bad is the utter betrayal of thousands of fans in the biggest BW scene in the world. You have the culmination of season's worth of games in korea only to have the final end up somewhere else. I guarentee you there are very passionate and diehard korean fans who have spent a lot of time watching proleague. You spend all this time cheering for a player or team and then the finals, which you have been excited about, is suddenly not going to be in gwang-anri, which you were planning to go to? Do you think every fan in korea has the time and money to travel to shanghai to see a proleague final? Those korean fans got totally robbed. Someone in the thread said that kespa is taking korean fans for granted and I think thats true. The more disgusted people feel, the less they will watch. It's really meaningless to spread BW abroad if support at home falls. Now this probably isn't going to happen just because one proleague final happened to take place elsewhere but given how much korean people are pissed with kespa and others who are running the show, I don't get why they think it's a good idea.
imagine if nba/nhl finals took place ... in europe ?! like that
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How expensive is it for Koreans to visit China? Can they just take a ferry to the finals? Is getting passports for it complicated?
I don't like that they are screwing up tradition, but they might have thought about it at least a little.
PS: Chef is bad at geography.
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