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Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 05:42:13
June 10 2011 05:41 GMT
#141
On June 10 2011 10:05 ZeroChrome wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 09:56 hellbound wrote:
Wasn't that OSL final in a TV tower? If so I don't get all the moaning about venue capacity.


The OSL final had 300 people in the audience, the PL final usually has like 30,000 or more. There will be a serious problem if the biggest event in all of esports has an attendance lower than some PL matches.

It was 300 people because OGN insisted on holding it at the Oriental Pearl Tower. The date was 9/11 so they had to limit the number of spectators. If it was another venue, it would have drawn more than 300 people. Still, I wish the PL final was held in Korea.
영원히 엠비씨게임 히어로 팬.
Fionn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States23455 Posts
June 10 2011 05:51 GMT
#142
It better be on a beach.

If it isn't on a beach, I riot.
Writerhttps://twitter.com/FionnOnFire
GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51434 Posts
June 10 2011 05:54 GMT
#143
[image loading]

i can see it on the beach.
Commentator
endy
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Switzerland8970 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 06:09:34
June 10 2011 06:08 GMT
#144
On June 10 2011 14:41 Ryo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 10 2011 10:05 ZeroChrome wrote:
On June 10 2011 09:56 hellbound wrote:
Wasn't that OSL final in a TV tower? If so I don't get all the moaning about venue capacity.


The OSL final had 300 people in the audience, the PL final usually has like 30,000 or more. There will be a serious problem if the biggest event in all of esports has an attendance lower than some PL matches.

It was 300 people because OGN insisted on holding it at the Oriental Pearl Tower. The date was 9/11 so they had to limit the number of spectators. If it was another venue, it would have drawn more than 300 people. Still, I wish the PL final was held in Korea.


You guys are clearly exaggerating. 300 was the amount of "vip tickets", i.e central bleachers, complimentary OSL usb stick and thunder sticks the color of the player you're cheering for. Anyone could see really well by just sitting on lateral bleachers. All you had to do was getting the tower park ticket which cost 5$. I'd say that we were between 2000 and 3500 people to attend the finals.

The thing they were criticized for, and why you all think there were only 300 seats, is that in every official announcement of the OSL finals they said there would be only 300 tickets, but they forgot to mention it was free to sit outside of the "vip bleachers". In the end many people didn't even come to the venue because they thought they had no chance to get tickets... while they could have watched OSL finals for 5$...

edit : ^^ GTR, isn't that Jinshan beach, the venue Emlary mentioned ?
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51434 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 06:10:55
June 10 2011 06:10 GMT
#145
yes it is. that picture is from the fiba beach volleyball championships in 2008.
i can just see tens of thousands of people piling up on the beach to watch.
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J1.au
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Australia3596 Posts
June 10 2011 06:11 GMT
#146
I'm so disappointed, I thought they cared about the fans in Korea. Turns out the incompetence isn't just confined to KeSPA and Blizzard, they are all bad. I remember the commentators pleading with the fans to stick with Brood War following the scandal and this is how they repay them?
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-10 06:54:05
June 10 2011 06:53 GMT
#147
On June 10 2011 15:11 J1.au wrote:
I'm so disappointed, I thought they cared about the fans in Korea. Turns out the incompetence isn't just confined to KeSPA and Blizzard, they are all bad. I remember the commentators pleading with the fans to stick with Brood War following the scandal and this is how they repay them?

It could turn out to be a good move to please the sponsors, I dunno. It's this time of the year when there are a lot of rumors floating around. Sigh.
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doothegee
Profile Joined December 2009
Korea (South)3011 Posts
June 10 2011 07:46 GMT
#148
http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=starcraft_new&no=48478

Translation of a post on Starcraft Gallery:

Some guy called KeSPA and asked why the finals were being held in China, and they answered it was what the sponsors wanted. Believe it if you want.
웅진 멘쓰즈
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
June 10 2011 08:10 GMT
#149
Why...just do it in Korea...
Hello
hacklebeast
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5090 Posts
June 10 2011 11:29 GMT
#150
I hope they tear down the walls, because that looks way too small as is.

On an unrelated note. I didn't realize how early they set these up. So once a year they just close a large part of a major beach in summer for starcraft? That's pretty cool
Protoss: Best, Paralyze, Jangbi, Nal_Ra || Terran: Oov, Boxer, Fantasy, Hiya|| Zerg: Yellow, Zero
bITt.mAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Switzerland3693 Posts
June 10 2011 14:12 GMT
#151
It's not a Fomos so it's fine.
SK T1 recently did a seminar on humour, in the hopes of improving Bisu the team's social skills and integration. They were taught sarcasm:

[image loading]
"This is a good idea, we approve!"


Also dear babel fish can only do so much to translate Korean sites, I can't find the venue details/address/date information to bombard my older brother with so that he can go :S Plox
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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
June 11 2011 07:32 GMT
#152
On June 10 2011 15:11 J1.au wrote:
I'm so disappointed, I thought they cared about the fans in Korea. Turns out the incompetence isn't just confined to KeSPA and Blizzard, they are all bad. I remember the commentators pleading with the fans to stick with Brood War following the scandal and this is how they repay them?

Yeah, that part makes it worse.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
writer22816
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States5775 Posts
June 12 2011 02:22 GMT
#153
So basically this is a thread mostly filled with people who live neither in China nor Korea and are complaining about the finals venue. And also can someone please explain to me how hosting the finals in China could possibly be bad for professional BW?
8/4/12 never forget, never forgive.
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 05:08:03
June 12 2011 04:55 GMT
#154
On June 12 2011 11:22 writer22816 wrote:
So basically this is a thread mostly filled with people who live neither in China nor Korea and are complaining about the finals venue. And also can someone please explain to me how hosting the finals in China could possibly be bad for professional BW?


the idea of having the finals in china isn't inherently bad, they have good venues and lots of BW fans there; whats bad is the utter betrayal of thousands of fans in the biggest BW scene in the world. You have the culmination of season's worth of games in korea only to have the final end up somewhere else. I guarentee you there are very passionate and diehard korean fans who have spent a lot of time watching proleague. You spend all this time cheering for a player or team and then the finals, which you have been excited about, is suddenly not going to be in gwang-anri, which you were planning to go to? Do you think every fan in korea has the time and money to travel to shanghai to see a proleague final?

Those korean fans got totally robbed. Someone in the thread said that kespa is taking korean fans for granted and I think thats true. The more disgusted people feel, the less they will watch. It's really meaningless to spread BW abroad if support at home falls. Now this probably isn't going to happen just because one proleague final happened to take place elsewhere but given how much korean people are pissed with kespa and others who are running the show, I don't get why they think it's a good idea.
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pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5094 Posts
June 12 2011 06:31 GMT
#155
On June 10 2011 16:46 doothegee wrote:
http://gall.dcinside.com/list.php?id=starcraft_new&no=48478

Translation of a post on Starcraft Gallery:

Some guy called KeSPA and asked why the finals were being held in China, and they answered it was what the sponsors wanted. Believe it if you want.

Well duh. The spending power of chinese people in Shanghai is huge.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
aimaimaim
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Philippines2167 Posts
June 12 2011 06:57 GMT
#156
On June 10 2011 23:12 bITt.mAN wrote:
It's not a Fomos so it's fine.
SK T1 recently did a seminar on humour, in the hopes of improving Bisu the team's social skills and integration. They were taught sarcasm:

[image loading]
"This is a good idea, we approve!"


Also dear babel fish can only do so much to translate Korean sites, I can't find the venue details/address/date information to bombard my older brother with so that he can go :S Plox


Those shoes really hurts my eyes .. damn
Religion is a dying idea .. || 'E-sport' outside Korea are nerds who wants to feel like rockstars. || I'm not gonna fuck with trolls on General Forum ever again .. FUCK!
phosphorylation
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States2935 Posts
June 12 2011 08:10 GMT
#157
I'm hearing that the PL sponsor Shinhan Bank had an influence on this, since they are trying to expand to chinese market.
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ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-12 08:20:11
June 12 2011 08:19 GMT
#158
During the KT-SKT series, a commentator (Shark I think) still referred to Gwangahri when talking about the first place ticket to the finals.. Probably a simple mistake but wishful thinking leads me to hope for Bo3 series final in China and Korea..
Writerptrk
a176
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada6688 Posts
June 15 2011 04:33 GMT
#159
On June 12 2011 13:55 white_horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 12 2011 11:22 writer22816 wrote:
So basically this is a thread mostly filled with people who live neither in China nor Korea and are complaining about the finals venue. And also can someone please explain to me how hosting the finals in China could possibly be bad for professional BW?


the idea of having the finals in china isn't inherently bad, they have good venues and lots of BW fans there; whats bad is the utter betrayal of thousands of fans in the biggest BW scene in the world. You have the culmination of season's worth of games in korea only to have the final end up somewhere else. I guarentee you there are very passionate and diehard korean fans who have spent a lot of time watching proleague. You spend all this time cheering for a player or team and then the finals, which you have been excited about, is suddenly not going to be in gwang-anri, which you were planning to go to? Do you think every fan in korea has the time and money to travel to shanghai to see a proleague final?

Those korean fans got totally robbed. Someone in the thread said that kespa is taking korean fans for granted and I think thats true. The more disgusted people feel, the less they will watch. It's really meaningless to spread BW abroad if support at home falls. Now this probably isn't going to happen just because one proleague final happened to take place elsewhere but given how much korean people are pissed with kespa and others who are running the show, I don't get why they think it's a good idea.


imagine if nba/nhl finals took place ... in europe ?! like that
starleague forever
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-15 14:46:56
June 15 2011 14:46 GMT
#160
How expensive is it for Koreans to visit China? Can they just take a ferry to the finals? Is getting passports for it complicated?

I don't like that they are screwing up tradition, but they might have thought about it at least a little.

PS: Chef is bad at geography.
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