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BisuDagger
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Bisutopia19366 Posts
June 03 2011 04:20 GMT
#141
On June 03 2011 04:04 disciple wrote:
Flash should shut the fuck up already. He has my sympathy about his injury and it really sucks for him to play under such conditions, it sucks for the game and his fans in general if he retires.

But you dont beat the current champion 3-0 and talk about wrist problem and how it cannot be cured. What Flash is doing with this is terrible and wrong because:
  • It makes the competition look like a complete bunch of incompetent idiots
  • Basically can use the issue as an excuse whenever he feels like it.


Flash is like oov cocky and arrogant at this point.


With this attitude it sounds like he should just play SC2 that way his hands will last longer.

If all he can think about are his wrists after winning then the pain must be legit.
ModeratorFormer Afreeca Starleague Caster: http://afreeca.tv/ASL2ENG2
zyzq
Profile Joined February 2011
United States3123 Posts
June 03 2011 04:20 GMT
#142
On June 03 2011 13:09 Fionn wrote:
Flash will more than likely play for a few more months, then probably after doing all he can do, retire from BW, get surgery on his hand, and then rest for a year or so before switching over to SC2 where he can take up a new challenge while using the year off to get the basics from the game.


Why would Flash play a game that won't reward him for the amount of work he puts into it?
4vvhiplash7
Profile Joined December 2010
South Africa392 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 04:32:31
June 03 2011 04:31 GMT
#143
WoW!! there are some serious idiots posting in this thread! give it a break already!

Besides, has Flash said anything about retiring?

(I'm not referring to the guys who posted above me, I'm referring to the thread as a whole)
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
June 03 2011 04:33 GMT
#144
On June 03 2011 10:25 Reyis wrote:
well, whenever flash loses or plays bad in his games its always him blaming it on lack of practice which was caused by his wrist injury, it is so cheap. he should really start to respect his opponents whenever he loses the game instead of smiling arrogantly for 5 minutes in the booth while looking at the screen and then exit the booth and walk away like a boss.

flash is probably the best player out there right now in terms of in-game mechanics, while on the other hand he is probably the most dumb person outside the game. just look how he is praising jaedong for being an "EXCELLENT" player:

Show nested quote +
A I feel a bit uncomfortable with it. I can't really express it with words.
The Jaedong-hyun that I wished to meet in the finals has lost, the feeling
is just as bad as if I had lost personally. Jaedong-hyun is an excellent
progamer, I believe that one day he will definately make the finals again.


he thinks that jaedong will be at top more longer than him. it is because of him being the dumb and killing his condition with overkill practice schedules while jaedong can keep the amount at normal which he is capable and be more efficent with it. we also see whenever jaedong does what flash have been doing in the past, which have caused him throw games to rookies such as Baby in very important times. If these doesnt suit u all, then just take a look at ggplay and his injury.

Ironically if flash loses this final, which would be normal, watch how he is gonna blame it on his injury and lack of practice even though he knows and acknowledges how zero can be very good sometimes and then continue playing for another starleague run.

his will and wits are admirable, but he is just too dumb. or maybe unlucky?

Name an interview where Flash blamed a loss on his hands. After the Power Outage MSL, Flash was a gentleman and said that rattled nerves from the G3 fiasco had NOT been a factor in G4 --- an obvious white lie in order to not discredit Jaedong's victory. (Flash's G4 was bullshit and it was clear that the unfair circumstances had shaken him.) Generally I have observed Flash to be very respectful towards fellow players. Flash also says very kind things about his teammates, giving confidence to the rookies, and is friends with players from several other teams (Effort, Jaedong, Fantasy at least).

People think Flash is arrogant because he's the best. So what if he smiles when he loses? Being able to appreciate your opponent's good play even in defeat is actually a mark of good sportsmanship.

Zero on the other hand is always bashing his teammates and saying cocky things like "I played so well I gave myself chills." If Flash were 1% as BM as Zero then basically everyone would loathe him.

Also Baby isn't a rookie.

Basically everything you said is wrong. Whatever, you're still going to hate Flash and think all the same things you already think. The only reason I typed this out is that your post aggravated me by being so conceited, so, troll accomplished I guess.
May the BeSt man win.
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 03 2011 04:48 GMT
#145
zero has this thing called a 'personality'

i dont think theres anything wrong with him being 'bm', everyone loves woongjin interviews around here
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
LaoShuAiDaMi
Profile Joined September 2009
United States88 Posts
June 03 2011 04:49 GMT
#146
Well I hope that disciple and co are right about flash exaggerating his wrist condition because otherwise it would be terrible.

That being said, my IQ went down several points reading this thread and I shall not see them ever again =(
Djabanete
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States2786 Posts
June 03 2011 04:54 GMT
#147
On June 03 2011 13:48 Legatus Lanius wrote:
zero has this thing called a 'personality'

i dont think theres anything wrong with him being 'bm', everyone loves woongjin interviews around here

Of course Zero has a personality. As for BM, Firebathero is one of my all-time favorite players. But if they won as much as Flash did, people would get tired of their personalities real fast. (OK, maybe not FBH.) Flash is about as polite and respectful as it gets, and people think he's arrogant --- I'm just contrasting him with people who actually say arrogant things instead of being "arrogant" by winning too much.
May the BeSt man win.
MisteR
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Netherlands595 Posts
June 03 2011 05:13 GMT
#148
Flash wouldn't be the first top class pro sporter to kill off his own career. Practicing so much at such a young age will have consequences, and he is just paying the price. Obviously he should take a break but a guy with his mindset might get hurt more (mentally) by not practicing. His coaches should defend him against himself but history tells us not to expect too much in that field from KT.

About the bad manner: I think that Flash really did practice his ass off because he was impressed by Hydra's play of late. However his opponent kinda imploded and Flash had an easy match where he expected a hard-fought battle. He's just disappointed, that's all.
Nal_Ra/Much/Horang2/Flying fighting!~
Assymptotic
Profile Joined February 2009
United States552 Posts
June 03 2011 05:28 GMT
#149
Oh god, if Flash doesn't win that Golden Badge before he's forced to retire, he may hate himself for the rest of his life.
So close, and yet so far
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
June 03 2011 05:34 GMT
#150
Wow are people really bashing Flash for talking about his wrists?

Everyone is concerned about it, and so the e-sports journalists are compelled to ask him about it, and so he responds.

It's not like he's preaching on the street about how bad his poor widdle wrists are.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 03 2011 05:38 GMT
#151
bisu wouldve been the best player ever if he practised until he destroyed his wrists like flash did, but i guess he wants to stay in the game a bit longer
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
hauton
Profile Joined March 2009
Hong Kong743 Posts
June 03 2011 05:48 GMT
#152
On June 03 2011 14:38 Legatus Lanius wrote:
bisu wouldve been the best player ever if he practised until he destroyed his wrists like flash did, but i guess he wants to spend more time perfecting his hair


Fixed.
keep it up, youll either be famous or homeless one day
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 03 2011 05:53 GMT
#153
On June 03 2011 10:25 Reyis wrote:
well, whenever flash loses or plays bad in his games its always him blaming it on lack of practice which was caused by his wrist injury, it is so cheap. he should really start to respect his opponents whenever he loses the game instead of smiling arrogantly for 5 minutes in the booth while looking at the screen and then exit the booth and walk away like a boss.

flash is probably the best player out there right now in terms of in-game mechanics, while on the other hand he is probably the most dumb person outside the game. just look how he is praising jaedong for being an "EXCELLENT" player:

Show nested quote +
A I feel a bit uncomfortable with it. I can't really express it with words.
The Jaedong-hyun that I wished to meet in the finals has lost, the feeling
is just as bad as if I had lost personally. Jaedong-hyun is an excellent
progamer, I believe that one day he will definately make the finals again.


he thinks that jaedong will be at top more longer than him. it is because of him being the dumb and killing his condition with overkill practice schedules while jaedong can keep the amount at normal which he is capable and be more efficent with it. we also see whenever jaedong does what flash have been doing in the past, which have caused him throw games to rookies such as Baby in very important times. If these doesnt suit u all, then just take a look at ggplay and his injury.

Ironically if flash loses this final, which would be normal, watch how he is gonna blame it on his injury and lack of practice even though he knows and acknowledges how zero can be very good sometimes and then continue playing for another starleague run.

his will and wits are admirable, but he is just too dumb. or maybe unlucky?


1) I've never once seen him blame a loss on his injury or lack of practice, and I read every one of his interviews.
2) He never said that Jaedong will be at the top longer than him. He said that he thinks Jaedong will make the finals again. What the hell are you talking about? Are you aware of the fact that more than one person can make the finals?
3) Flash made six straight finals and won four of them last year, and is now in the finals again. Did Jaedong do this? No. Clearly, Flash's methods are working out for now.
4) How the hell would it be normal for Flash to lose the final? He's won his last 7 BO5's and this is the first time ever that Zero's made it to the finals. Clearly you're just mad because Flash won. Stop being an idiot.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 03 2011 05:55 GMT
#154
On June 03 2011 14:38 Legatus Lanius wrote:
bisu wouldve been the best player ever if he practised until he destroyed his wrists like flash did, but i guess he wants to stay in the game a bit longer


Yeah, not making it into a RO16 for two years is really what he wants in his career.
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Legatus Lanius
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
2135 Posts
June 03 2011 06:02 GMT
#155
On June 03 2011 14:55 GolemMadness wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 14:38 Legatus Lanius wrote:
bisu wouldve been the best player ever if he practised until he destroyed his wrists like flash did, but i guess he wants to stay in the game a bit longer


Yeah, not making it into a RO16 for two years is really what he wants in his career.


it sure beats RSI and corti shots
"He's the Triple H of Brood War." - Ribbon on Flash | "He's more like the John Cena of Brood War." - Aus)MaCrO on Flash
TheNessman
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States4158 Posts
June 03 2011 06:03 GMT
#156
Wow i guess no one lives forever.

Wait flash is still soooo young... and his career is already fading in a sense!?!?!??!

Wow...!
~~! youtube.com/xmungam1 !~~
alypse
Profile Joined May 2010
2784 Posts
June 03 2011 06:08 GMT
#157
The haters on TL are reaching new milestones everyday. Their posts become more and more idiotic, making themselves look meaner with each post.
KT Violet 1988 - 2012
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
June 03 2011 06:12 GMT
#158
On June 03 2011 15:08 alypse wrote:
The haters on TL are reaching new milestones everyday. Their posts become more and more idiotic, making themselves look meaner with each post.

tbh this started with disciple's rants which seemed to have unofficially condoned this line of posts in here due to him being a red. Even as a red though that rant was over the line and inappropriate. He said Flash should lie and say "shit is ok" when asked about his wrists, well its not and his fans are actually worried and want to be updated about his condition. You can bet that if it were Bisu that developed symptoms or an illness that could threaten his career disciple and all the other Bisu fans would want every update possible, and they wouldn't appreciate people going into Bisu interview threads saying "Bisu should just stfu already and just say he's ok, stop hiding behind those injuries".

Flash's wrist is visibly wrong, it is not a faked illness. It is extremely serious, and it matters to his fans. For all the Flash haters that followed after disciple, you guys hate flash? great, you don't need to shit all over this thread. He didn't say anything BM in his interview. He has never, not once excused his losses on his wrists. I don't even know where these latest arguments come from, like him being bm because he smiles when he loses or that flash is dumb for praising his friends JD and Zero..

When one of the leading stars in any sport has a serious illness/condition, he will get asked about it, and often because its important. He shouldn't have to lie about it so his antifans can be happier. I was actually dumbfounded by the level of some of the comments in this thread.

I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
GolemMadness
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada11044 Posts
June 03 2011 06:30 GMT
#159
On June 03 2011 15:02 Legatus Lanius wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 14:55 GolemMadness wrote:
On June 03 2011 14:38 Legatus Lanius wrote:
bisu wouldve been the best player ever if he practised until he destroyed his wrists like flash did, but i guess he wants to stay in the game a bit longer


Yeah, not making it into a RO16 for two years is really what he wants in his career.


it sure beats RSI and corti shots


Accomplishing nothing for two years and being pain free is better than enduring some pain while becoming one of the greatest ever?
http://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=FLABREZU
Keone
Profile Joined April 2011
United States812 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-06-03 06:37:17
June 03 2011 06:32 GMT
#160
On June 03 2011 04:04 disciple wrote:
Flash should shut the fuck up already. He has my sympathy about his injury and it really sucks for him to play under such conditions, it sucks for the game and his fans in general if he retires.

But you dont beat the current champion 3-0 and talk about wrist problem and how it cannot be cured. What Flash is doing with this is terrible and wrong because:
  • It makes the competition look like a complete bunch of incompetent idiots
  • Basically can use the issue as an excuse whenever he feels like it.


Flash is like oov cocky and arrogant at this point.

So, the guy is honest about his wrist condition that has been well-known to be a serious problem, and you think this is disrespecting his opponents.

You are ridiculous and unbelievable. He's not trying to be cocky and arrogant. He's an 18 year old kid with a serious wrist problem that everyone wants to know about, so they're all asking about it.

edit:

and what the HELL is this???

On June 03 2011 10:25 Reyis wrote:
well, whenever flash loses or plays bad in his games its always him blaming it on lack of practice which was caused by his wrist injury, it is so cheap. he should really start to respect his opponents whenever he loses the game instead of smiling arrogantly for 5 minutes in the booth while looking at the screen and then exit the booth and walk away like a boss.

flash is probably the best player out there right now in terms of in-game mechanics, while on the other hand he is probably the most dumb person outside the game. just look how he is praising jaedong for being an "EXCELLENT" player:

Show nested quote +
A I feel a bit uncomfortable with it. I can't really express it with words.
The Jaedong-hyun that I wished to meet in the finals has lost, the feeling
is just as bad as if I had lost personally. Jaedong-hyun is an excellent
progamer, I believe that one day he will definately make the finals again.


he thinks that jaedong will be at top more longer than him. it is because of him being the dumb and killing his condition with overkill practice schedules while jaedong can keep the amount at normal which he is capable and be more efficent with it. we also see whenever jaedong does what flash have been doing in the past, which have caused him throw games to rookies such as Baby in very important times. If these doesnt suit u all, then just take a look at ggplay and his injury.

Ironically if flash loses this final, which would be normal, watch how he is gonna blame it on his injury and lack of practice even though he knows and acknowledges how zero can be very good sometimes and then continue playing for another starleague run.

his will and wits are admirable, but he is just too dumb. or maybe unlucky?

I suppose you have a Ph.D in psychology from the excellent analysis you just put out, right? I mean, there's no other way that you could make that incredible examination of Flash's personality and actions right? Especially in the lack of evidence that you somehow create out of nowhere?

Levels of blatant hate built on pure BS are rising to new levels here. This is unbelievable.
BW Forever. Flash is the Ultimate Bonjwa.
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