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On January 16 2011 06:53 Musoeun wrote:
Bisu does have four all-kills: he's got two in the same season twice now, which may be the "back to back" comment but only these last two are actually "back to back". (He's also got a show-match all-kill, but I don't really think that counts!)
15/01/2011 - '11 WL (WeMade)
11/01/2011 - '11 WL (STX)
*30/03/2009 - '09 Race All Stars (Terran)
07/03/2009 - '09 WL (WeMade)
22/02/2009 - '09 WL (hite)
I forgot that he had allkilled a Terran team before.. thinking back to it now, it seems incredible and highly unlikely rofl
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I'm surprised they didn't mention his ELO being raised to 2305. It's been almost a year since he was a member of 2300 club.
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On January 16 2011 02:53 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 02:47 StylishVODs wrote:
what do you mean:D
wouldn't be difficult to understand that he'd get the most wins IF he AKs every time.
well thats not difficult.
what is difficult is to AK every time when players like flash jaedong and stork are also playing WL. Since when does "perform well in SWL" equate to "AK every time"?
I guess you simply don't understand what I meant. Thats fine. Go bisu
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On January 16 2011 10:36 Assymptotic wrote:
I'm surprised they didn't mention his ELO being raised to 2305. It's been almost a year since he was a member of 2300 club.
I hope you realized that the ELO thing is only for teamliquid. Korean goes by KeSPa rank.
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On January 16 2011 10:46 Monkeyshark wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 10:36 Assymptotic wrote:
I'm surprised they didn't mention his ELO being raised to 2305. It's been almost a year since he was a member of 2300 club. I hope you realized that the ELO thing is only for teamliquid. Korean goes by KeSPa rank.
Huh, I was under the impression they used both.
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On January 16 2011 11:43 Assymptotic wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 10:46 Monkeyshark wrote:On January 16 2011 10:36 Assymptotic wrote:
I'm surprised they didn't mention his ELO being raised to 2305. It's been almost a year since he was a member of 2300 club. I hope you realized that the ELO thing is only for teamliquid. Korean goes by KeSPa rank. Huh, I was under the impression they used both.
IIRC, Kespa has some sort of ELO system but it's probably different from this.
They almost never mention Kespa ranking either.
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Honestly i don't think this All-Kill was that impressive. So he beat 2 zerg's who did the 4base turtle build which is losing in every single game i see it in now (please stop doing it), he beat Pure who made the worse positioning possible in his attack and threw away his lead and then BaBy was the impressive game but still... cross positions on that map PvT lategame i can't see anyone except flash beating the top Protoss. Massive middle for flanks, bases miles away to take everywhere. He still played well and the stasis/storm combo was what he should have done in loads of other games but still it was a fairly easy game for him imo. He's not been tested in any of these.
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On January 16 2011 12:06 infinity2k9 wrote:
Honestly i don't think this All-Kill was that impressive. So he beat 2 zerg's who did the 4base turtle build which is losing in every single game i see it in now (please stop doing it), he beat Pure who made the worse positioning possible in his attack and threw away his lead and then BaBy was the impressive game but still... cross positions on that map PvT lategame i can't see anyone except flash beating the top Protoss. Massive middle for flanks, bases miles away to take everywhere. He still played well and the stasis/storm combo was what he should have done in loads of other games but still it was a fairly easy game for him imo. He's not been tested in any of these.
I always thought that "his opponents sucked" is a discredit to a player who does something impressive(hence I try to stay away from saying that even when it's a player I don't like). Yes he outclassed his opponents so it wasn't really close except in vs Baby, but isn't outclassing some of the top players and playing so well that he manages to come back from a disadvantage impressive in it of itself? I think it is. It's not like an all-kill against ANY team(even eSTRO/Ace of late) doesn't take a lot of work anyways. Any progamer can outplay any other progamer if the conditions are right. Case in point: Flash vs Ssak/Classic.
Also, 4 base turtling is probably an underdeveloped response to Bisu's zealot map control and would work if said players were playing a lesser opponent.
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Bisu owning shit in WL hell yeah!  back to back AKs and most wins!
I hope he will start performing like this in individual leagues. 
also it seems like our beloved pikachu is back in action!
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On January 16 2011 12:22 Lightwip wrote:Show nested quote +On January 16 2011 12:06 infinity2k9 wrote:
Honestly i don't think this All-Kill was that impressive. So he beat 2 zerg's who did the 4base turtle build which is losing in every single game i see it in now (please stop doing it), he beat Pure who made the worse positioning possible in his attack and threw away his lead and then BaBy was the impressive game but still... cross positions on that map PvT lategame i can't see anyone except flash beating the top Protoss. Massive middle for flanks, bases miles away to take everywhere. He still played well and the stasis/storm combo was what he should have done in loads of other games but still it was a fairly easy game for him imo. He's not been tested in any of these. I always thought that "his opponents sucked" is a discredit to a player who does something impressive(hence I try to stay away from saying that even when it's a player I don't like). Yes he outclassed his opponents so it wasn't really close except in vs Baby, but isn't outclassing some of the top players and playing so well that he manages to come back from a disadvantage impressive in it of itself? I think it is. It's not like an all-kill against ANY team(even eSTRO/Ace of late) doesn't take a lot of work anyways. Any progamer can outplay any other progamer if the conditions are right. Case in point: Flash vs Ssak/Classic. Also, 4 base turtling is probably an underdeveloped response to Bisu's zealot map control and would work if said players were playing a lesser opponent.
I'm not really trying to discredit him here, he played solid no doubt and won in each matchup, but you have to admit the situations were favourable for him, the situations caused by his opponents actions and not his own in a few cases. The 4base turtle Zerg is getting raped all over the place this season to the point where it's not even viable, and he beat them with no trouble even with a 3rd base up. that suggests to me infact the Zerg strategy was just poor. Of course Bisu perfectly countered but he didn't do anything spectacular. Then we have the PvP in which Pure gave away reavers constantly and tried to fight over a bridge and up a cliff. Baby was a good game, like the stasis and storms and the dt's even were pretty cool and must have been extremely annoying. But was he really tested?
Hopefully it's a sign his PvT is improving but he basically could not lose that game because of the push distance and the easy denial and harass of the 4th. BaBy's strategy again, wasn't good enough rather than Bisu's multitask being pushed to the limit or something. I want to see him under pressure in a game, in an unfavorable position and bring out his classic multitasking skills or goon vs mine micro rather than just running over some medicore players who all had poor plans in my opinion. BaBy vs Bisu close positions i think would have been a very interesting match...
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