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L!MP
Profile Joined March 2003
Australia2067 Posts
August 24 2004 14:42 GMT
#121
fan-fucking-tastic
AcidZerg
Profile Joined July 2004
Canada102 Posts
August 24 2004 14:43 GMT
#122
I make such stupid threads and comments that if mensrea was mean i would have been banned by now.
anyway it seems to me ra=toss boxer and would like to see a similar zerg.
also it seems to me that when getting that much static d, and tech terran wouldn't have eco even with expand for large force(even at pro level)
but why would goodfriend turn around when he saw arbitor tribunal?
zeolot
Profile Joined January 2004
United States62 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-24 15:07:01
August 24 2004 15:06 GMT
#123
yo mama so stupid she studied for a drug test!!
TvP On Guillo
Profile Joined April 2004
Denmark646 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-24 17:04:21
August 24 2004 17:03 GMT
#124
That was an amazing game, definetly worth a thread of its own. Perfect excution by Ra.

Though, when you think about it, the build Ra pulled of might not be as "Boxerish" nor risky on Parallel Lines, than first assumed. Recall+Hallucination+Arbiters+Templars is a much more cost effective way of transferring units into your opponents base, rather than building shuttles and risking losing them from the fire of Goliaths. If not scouted in time Ra's build can be very devastating for a terran.

In my opinion Nada's mass wraith build vs Terato on the same very map is a much more risky strat and much harder to have succes with, as one could experience, Nada, of all people, not being able to pull it off properly.
Deeply earnest and thoughtful people stand on shaky footing with the public - Johann Wolfgang von Goethe
fledgeling
Profile Joined June 2004
Poland4 Posts
August 24 2004 21:24 GMT
#125
Hi it's me 8882, I got banned but used a proxy from Argentina, because I want to defend myself. I will probably get banned for having multiaccount, but I want to point out that mensrea should be punished for flaming, being arogant and unfair. Probably most people will think that Im agrueing with her (?), but replying is the only thing I can do.


It amazes me that in this day and age we still have people running loose with brains the size of walnuts. The first part of your argument actually makes sense, and certainly you're entitled to your opinion.


Ok, so that's why you banned me? Why do you flame me?

But, the 2nd part about my "trick" being a two-way street is absolute nonsense.


No it isnt. You said that I have to play at OGN to be able to judge the decisions of programers. According to your logic I couldnt say that if a pro 4pooled on an island map it would be stupid. Plus you just said that he couldnt do anything. So recall is an unstopable strategy? The only thing Goodfriend could do, was typing 'gg' faster? He had some time. IMO he should try to prepare other way (vultank).

The reason why my "trick" (as you put it) does NOT in fact work in both directions is that you were the only one between us second-guessing and questioning the skills of a world class player.


Im not questioning his skills. I am questioning his decisions. I dont need to have 250++ apm and perfect micro and macro, to say that he made a bad decision. So what he could do according to you? Just surrender? IMO if he could made vultures with mines he would have a bigger chance.
Waxangel also didnt agree with you. Ban him too. Plus you arent a progamer too and you are exactly sure that all he could do was loosing- according to the fact you dont play at OGN, you cant say that too.

I don't mind an argument.


I wanted to say "the way you forward arguments" but I wasnt sure what is the collocation (make arguments? give arguments? forward arguments?). Plus explain me what is the purpose of forum, if not discussing.
I didnt flame you (you did) and I forwarded arguments (you didnt). That's why I got banned?-you didnt know what to say, to enlighten me, so banned me? How arrogant. You just didnt have any arguments? Hey you said you banned me for being arogant, why are you still posting, if I deserve a ban for being arogant (o_O) you deserve a ban for those 3 things too (flaming, lack of arguments, arrogance).

And, in fact, I don't mind stupidity.


Im you are so smart and I am so stupid then you shouldnt troll me but just tell me why am I wrong. Because now all I got that I would have to play at OGN to be able to say that IMO someone should make more units instead of having good economy.
I also learned that you abuse your abilities to mod, when you start a discussion and feel that you have no idea how to answer to someone's else arguments.

I've had stupid moments before and I certainly will again in the future.


Hopefully you didnt have stupid moments on this forum, because you should ban yourself if you had one here. But hey, banning me wasnt stupid and unfair?

But, stupidity combined with arrogance needs to be dealt with.


Stupidity? I said what IMO did he do wrong. So you could forward some arguments too and explain that mine arguments are wrong. And Im not arrogant. You started using cheap tricks about the OGN so I defended myself. Am I supposed to remain silent because you have a bad day? You flamed me few times and noone banned you. Why? I didnt flame you. You are very arrogant or you think that if I say that he could play better Im attacking you.

[quote]You're an arrogant son-of-a-bitch.

So you flamed my mother you stupid slut. I didnt flame you, but you flame me. Dont think I wont defend myself. I will PM other mods and hopefully they will ban you, even though you are friends. I usually dont care about people insulting me, but you also attacked my family.

[quote]A cursory look through your history of posts reveals this.[/quote]

I know that Im not saint. But when someone asks for something and Im sure I can help I do it-for example by uploading maps. Plus you could give me some evidence, so I could improve, see what I did wrong. (You flamed me too, guess what -I woundt care if you hadnt attacked my family and banned me.)
But you didnt-you used an old "discussion trick" again, please dont do it- you said that I am arrogant in other posts too. We both know that noone will listen to me because Im unknown and noone will check my posts to see who is right and who is wrong. People will just believe you, beacuse you are a mod. That is arrogant. I dont remember flaming or calling someone a son-of-a-bitch, only Stimey, but I was j/k, he probably saw that and played with me, so he didnt feel insulted (I called you a stupid slut, but you fully deserve that.).
Plus Im not sure, but even if I were so arogant like you, there is no rule that arogant users will be banned.

[quote]Bye-bye, walnut brain. [/quote]

Flame me again, please.

Waxangel didnt agree with you too -flame and ban him the same way you flamed and banned me.

[quote]Well, no one's arguing that GoodFriend did everything possible. The fact that he lost is proof of this.[/quote]

Hmm noone? "vuluttank could be nice" -"Yes, more vultanks would have been nice. And more battlecruisers (...)"


[quote]I just found 8882's comments annoying.[/quote]

Your comments are annoying. I just learned that I have to agree with you because you are always right (but you also said "I've had stupid moments before and I certainly will again in the future." hmmm)
I didnt agree with you and you started using cheap 'sociotechnical' (not sure if this word exists in english language) tricks isnstead of forwaring arguments. When I defended myself because they dont work on me-you banned me (and flamed me). Stop abusing the ability to ban people you dont like, beacuse your cheap sociotechnical tricks dont work.

[quote]It's not always what someone says - but who says it.[/quote]

ok, so you banned me because you dont like me? I think it was the first time I quoted your post o_O
why dont you like me? because rhetorical/sociotechnical 'tricks' dont work on me?

[quote]Not my fault the dumbass decides to escalate things - and expose himself as a conceited halfwit too moronic to realize how much of an idiot he really is.[/quote]

You escalated things by using the "do you play in OGN" trick. I just defended myslef.
Flame me more please.



[quote]I rarely ban. But, when I do, it's for good reason. I've had enough experience running this site to spot someone who shouldn't be here - even before they obviously cross the line enough for other forumers to see.[/quote]

Not agreeing with you=ban? You could at least explain me what was wrong in the things I said, before you banned me.

[quote]It doesn't matter who escalated it.[/quote]

yes it does. -"Not my fault the dumbass decides to escalate things"-that's why I got banned. Actually YOU started it and escalated it by banning me.

[quote]I've never banned anyone just for telling me off (unless it's the obvious BNet-type troll who comes in here thinking he can disrespect people at will with impunity). I don't mind a good tussle every now and then.[/quote]

Im trolling? Im flaming? Im trying to forward arguments. And what do you do- you flame me, ban me and dont try to answer to my arguments.
So you want to tussle from time to time? Shouldnt you get banned for that? YOu had a bad day and banned me to have fun?


The funniest thing that after the ban I have no way to defend myself. I cant PM you (you would probably ignore me). I think that if I manage to somehow post here, you will delete the post, beacuse you wont like to answer.
If I ask someone to post my answer here-you will ban him, telling it's my smurf.
If I use a proxy-I will get banned for having multiple accounts.
So nice to know that one of the admins here likes to abuse his power.



btw. I am dissapointed with you, because I thought you are a nice person
btw2. whom should I pm complaining that she is flaming my family? I think I will PM Rekrul, but I dont know whether he is the super-admin dealing with such causes.
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
August 24 2004 21:27 GMT
#126
On August 24 2004 23:08 Purind wrote:
ra's GODLY, but legionairre can own him 10-0 any day


Sure and i am the king of china.

Getting banned by rea needs really great skill of bad behaviour

rea and rA
Ilvy
Profile Joined September 2002
Germany2445 Posts
August 24 2004 21:44 GMT
#127
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Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 24 2004 21:47 GMT
#128
On August 24 2004 21:56 Hot_Bid wrote:
mensrea, while you're probably right about 8882, don't you think it's a little much to ban him over two stupid and annoying posts? i mean, everyone's made at least one or two idiotic posts in the heat of the moment...


no
the faster stupid people are banned the better
end of story
fledgeling
Profile Joined June 2004
Poland4 Posts
August 24 2004 21:58 GMT
#129
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hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-24 22:23:19
August 24 2004 22:17 GMT
#130
Good move by Ra, but, I think had it been nada in the driver's seat, it wouldn't have been so successful..

We've got Ra, who fast expos, gets arbiters, recall, templars, storm, hallu, and like 24-36 units and goes and recalls

Here we have GF, who double fast expos, takes no damage and is free to build whatever he wants. he scouts the arbiters early, so he makes a couple of loose turrets around his base.

Ra attacks, and GF has like 8 goliaths dinking around his base, and 3 dropships. Now, I guess those dropships were empty. So ra drops 24-36 units, zealots, dragoons, templars with storms, with arbiter support, vs 8 gols. Now GF flies his dropships to his expo, and picks up like 8 goliaths and flies back.. of course that won't win.

and GF decides to go battle cruisers with double upgrades after scouting arbiters. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket science to see that GF played like a moron, if you ask me atlteast. I'm about 200% sure that it wouldn't have killed nada if he had two free expos and knew it was coming long beforehand..

I was expecting dweb arbiter drop, but the hallu was nice :D
I wonder why Ra didn't attack his CC as it floated by a corsair

PS, quoting really long posts is gay!!
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 24 2004 22:20 GMT
#131
fledgeling, regardless of what you think, you appear arrogant. mensrea is an admin. you are not.

why are you still arguing. the fact that you are still arguing shows why we don't want you here.



mensrea - did the commandments never get put up on the page?
fledgeling
Profile Joined June 2004
Poland4 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-24 22:30:08
August 24 2004 22:23 GMT
#132
Im not arguing. I just made a reply. What else could I do?

edit: Thank you for poining out my spelling mistakes. Maybe you could check my previous post too?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 24 2004 22:24 GMT
#133
On August 25 2004 07:17 hasuwar wrote:
Good move by Ra, but, I think had it been nada in the driver's seat, it wouldn't have been so successful..

We've got Ra, who fast expos, gets arbiters, recall, templars, storm, hallu, and like 24-36 units and goes and recalls

Here we have GF, who double fast expos, takes no damage and is free to build whatever he wants. he scouts the arbiters early, so he makes a couple of loose turrets around his base.

Ra attacks, and GF has like 8 goliaths dinking around his base, and 3 dropships. Now, I guess those dropships were empty. So ra drops 24-36 units, zealots, dragoons, templars with storms, with arbiter support, vs 8 gols. Now GF flies his dropships to his expo, and picks up like 8 goliaths and flies back.. of course that won't win.

and GF decides to go battle cruisers with double upgrades after scouting arbiters. I mean, it doesn't take a rocket science to see that GF played like a moron, if you ask me atlteast. I'm about 200% sure that it wouldn't have killed nada if he had two free expos and knew it was coming long beforehand..

I was expecting dweb arbiter drop, but the hallu was nice :D
I wonder why Ra didn't attack his CC as it floated by a corsair

PS, quoting really long posts is gay!!


I think it would have if nada scouted it as late as goodfriend did. did you see how onesidedly he got destroyed?
Deleted User 3420
Profile Blog Joined May 2003
24492 Posts
August 24 2004 22:26 GMT
#134
On August 25 2004 07:23 fledgeling wrote:
Im not argueing. I just replied. What else could I do?


We speak english on this forum, sorry. Look up the word "argue". Then check to see if that was what you were doing again.
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
August 24 2004 22:28 GMT
#135
rea bans everyone who doesn`t agree with him. it always was like this. i can`t believe notbody noticed.
8882 wasn`t bad mannered at any point. in fact, mensrea was with his sarcastic post. mensrea is actually a pretty sad figure, just read a couple of his posts and you will agree with me.


looking forward to either getting banned or to one of mensreas fancy super-rhetorical flames.



ps: i really hope mensrea get's his feet back on solid ground and clams down a bit instead.
Hot_Bid
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-24 22:33:38
August 24 2004 22:31 GMT
#136
if you think the policies on this are unfair, you really can't do anything about it--honestly it's a personal site and the mods have the right to do whatever they want. i've found that the mods are fair almost all the time in their decision making (why this site is so appealing), so maybe you should swallow hard, apologize, and hope mensrea reinstates you? suggesting that mensrea ban him/herself essentially eliminates that possibility... frankly it's your decision to fight it or not, but you're fighting a losing battle, regardless of whether you think you're right.

edit: it's not like this is the confederate south and you guys are black slaves rebelling against the plantation owner mods... realize they have no obligation to be fair, but usually are.
@Hot_Bid on Twitter - ESPORTS life since 2010 - http://i.imgur.com/U2psw.png
hasuwar
Profile Joined April 2003
7365 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-24 22:32:43
August 24 2004 22:32 GMT
#137
Travis, yes I did, but I highly doubt nada would be going battle cruisers and have like 12 goliaths total when ra had storm, hallu, arbiters, recall, and like 24 ++ units to recall into his base, off two bases, when nada would have three....

I mean, he had to have scouted it pretty early too.. he had turrets up all around pretty much everything except around that main part where he had goliaths
Diablo3 ID: Exalted#1710 -------R.I.P. http://hasuwar.isgsa.org. Much love to Toptalent
LaptopLegacy
Profile Joined October 2002
Netherlands602 Posts
August 24 2004 22:34 GMT
#138
8882, you have my full support.
Your banning was completely ungrounded and he commited every offense that he tried to blame you for, only 10 times worse.
I doubt i've ever seen a bigger ego then this ugly tyrant that mensrea's grown into. I liked him much more in the bw.com and infant tl.net days.
Luctor et Emergo
fledgeling
Profile Joined June 2004
Poland4 Posts
August 24 2004 22:34 GMT
#139
I wont apologise to someone who insulted my family without any reason.
Asta
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany3491 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-08-24 22:41:05
August 24 2004 22:34 GMT
#140
i've been swallowing for months but this time mensrea banned somebody rather "popular" so i hoped most people would realize it this time.


i just read mensrea's last post. just count how many insults he used. incredible...
not that i really care but people should know this anyway.

oh and btw mensrea: how about posting a replay of yourself playing before you actually start arguing about starcraft? have you ever played this game?


edit: laptoplegacy pretty much said it. in the days of halpmeh and he early days of tl.net i really liked mensrea. then came a point where i found his battle reports and stuff really childish because they were written in such bombastic words (can't put it in better words) while they always missed the point of the game (mensrea doesn't really have a clue). ever since then i had a less biased view on all of mensreas posts and realized most of the time he's just being arrogant. i've watched him ban at least 5 people only because they didn't agree with his opinion.

don't take this as an insult but i really think mensrea's got a bit too much of this internet stuff. a guy who used to put so much effort in this site can't really have a healthy life and now with so many ppl going like "mensrea is god" etc that must have been too much for him. =/
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