Here I'm going to assemble a Book of Records of SC:BW Progaming. If you have any interesting facts, please, write them down and I'll update the Book.
Age The youngest age of TV win - BaBy (13 years, 2 months and 17 days) The oldest age of TV win - BoxeR (29 years, 5 months and 1 day)
The youngest OSL champion - Flash (15 years, 8 months and 10 days, Bacchus OSL 2008) The youngest MSL champion - Mind (16 years, 1 month and 14 days, GomTV 3 MSL 2007) The youngest player to win OSL silver - Fantasy (17 years and 4 months, Incruit OSL 2008) The youngest player to win MSL silver - Kal (17 years, 4 months and 19 days, GomTV4 MSL 2008) The youngest player to achieve the Golden Mouse - Flash (18 years, 2 months and 6 days, Korean Air Season 2 OSL 2010) The youngest player to achieve the Golden Badge - NaDa (18 years, 1 month and 29 days, Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour 2003)
The oldest OSL champion - iloveoov (22 years, 3 months and 27 days, Shinhan Bank OSL 2005) The oldest MSL champion - BoxeR (21 years, 7 month and 10 days, KPGA 1st Tour) The oldest player to win OSL silver - BoxeR (25 years, 2 months and 1 day, So1 OSL 2005) The oldest player to win MSL silver - Nal_rA (24 years, 4 months and 1 day, Pringles 1 MSL 2006) The oldest player to achieve the Golden Mouse - NaDa (21 years and 363 days, Shinhan Bank Season 2 OSL 2006) The oldest player to achieve the Golden Badge - iloveoov (20 years, 9 months and 24 days, SPRIS MSL 2004)
OSL and MSL performance The most OSL and MSL wins - NaDa, Flash (6) The most OSL and MSL finals appearances - NaDa (10) The most OSL and MSL Semi-final (Ro4) appearances - Jaedong (12) The most OSL and MSL Ro16 appearances - NaDa (26) The most number of OSL silver - BoxeR (4) The most number of MSL silver - YellOw, NaDa and Jaedong (3) The longest streak of OSL finals appearances - BoxeR and Flash (3 finals straight) The longest streak of MSL finals appearances - sAviOr (5 finals straight)
The only progamer to appear simultaneously in both OSL and MSL finals 3 seasons straight - Flash The only pair of progamers to appear simultaneously in 3 MSL finals straight (Flash and Jaedong) Pairs of progamers to appear simultaneously in both OSL and MSL finals in one season: NaDa and ChoJJa (Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour, 2002/10/25 - 2003/1/18, and Panasonic OnGameNet Starleague, 2002/11/15 - 2003/02/14), Flash and Jaedong (Bigfile MSL, 2010/07/01 - 2010/08/23 and Korean Air OnGameNet StarLeague Season 2, 2010/06/16 - 2010/09/11)
The only foreigner to win an OSL - Grrrr... (Hanaro Communication Tooniverse OSL, 99/00)
The only female to ever play in the male leagues - ToSsGirL
KeSPA The most months as TOP-1 KeSPA - Flash (19 months) The longest streak of being at TOP-1 KeSPA - BoxeR (17 months straight) The longest streak of being at Top-30 KeSPA - NaDa (87 months straight) The highest number of KeSPA points - Flash (4292.5, September 2010) TOP-1 KeSPA Terran - Flash (30 months, 18 straight) TOP-1 KeSPA Zerg - Jaedong (34 months straight) TOP-1 KeSPA Protoss - Bisu (22 months, 11 straight)
ELO The highest ELO Peak - Flash (2443 pts) The highest ELO Peak between Zergs - Jaedong (2378 pts) The highest ELO Peak between Protosses - Bisu (2366 pts)
The highest vsT ELO Peak - Flash (2348 pts) The highest ZvT ELO Peak - Jaedong (2302 pts) The highest PvT ELO Peak - JangBi (2260 pts)
The highest vsP ELO Peak - Flash (2333 pts) The highest ZvP ELO Peak - Jaedong (2319 pts) The highest PvP ELO Peak - Bisu (2270 pts)
The highest vZ ELO Peak - Flash (2346 pts) The highest ZvZ ELO Peak - Jaedong (2341 pts) The highest PvZ ELO Peak - Bisu (2316 pts)
Win and loss streaks The longest win streak - BoxeR (17-0) The longest TvT win streak - Flash (22-0) The longest TvZ win streak - iloveoov (27-0) (proof) The longest TvP win streak - Flash (13-0) The longest ZvT win streak - Jaedong (13-0) The longest ZvZ win streak - Shine (12-0) The longest ZvP win streak - Jaedong (15-0) The longest PvT win streak - Stork (14-0) The longest PvZ win streak - Bisu, Shuttle (10-0) The longest PvP win streak - BeSt (17-0)
The longest loss streak - JinNam (0-16) The longest TvT loss streak - DarkElf (0-13) The longest TvZ loss streak - Really (0-13) The longest TvP loss streak - Casy (0-12) The longest ZvT loss streak - Clon, TheWinD, JinNam, Calm (0-11) The longest ZvZ loss streak - JinNam (0-9) The longest ZvP loss streak - Shark (0-7) The longest PvT loss streak - SangHo (0-11) The longest PvZ loss streak - TerAtO, fOru, RainBOw (0-9) The longest PvP loss streak - Movie (0-11)
Game Most kills with a single unit - Snow (72 kills with a reaver, 2010/07/17) Most kills with a marine - Fantasy (24 kills, Source) Most kills with a single Dragoon - Tempest (33 kills, Source)
I find it amusing how 3 of the players who have some of the longest losing streaks ever are mosnters in sc2. I thought flash would have a much higher winning record than JD, considering his titanic ELO record.
I feel bad for JinNam. Regardless of making it to one of the first OSL finals, 0-16 has to suck major balls. And as for NaDa, daaaaaaaaaaaamn 87 months? you da man
On November 15 2010 04:24 Azure Sky wrote: This is a good write up but I did notice one piece of information that was overlooked. Shuttle also had a 10-0 PvZ winning streak.
On November 15 2010 04:26 Warrior Madness wrote: I find it amusing how 3 of the players who have some of the longest losing streaks ever are mosnters in sc2. I thought flash would have a much higher winning record than JD, considering his titanic ELO record.
they're good in sc2 becuase the monsters in sc1 haven't switched over yet for the most part, and the game is still young
Wow gorush. I remember people talking about how good you were from time to time but damn.
The only streaks that is current is Flash's OSL finals aperences, Joyo's vT losing streak and JinNam's vT losing streak right?
edit: forgot that Joyo was a race picker. So he dosent have the longest Tvt losing streak because he played protoss for those. The first game of his losing streak on TLPD was against boxer, and he played protoss for that one.
On November 15 2010 05:35 Raiden X wrote: Kind of ironic that TheWinD,SangHo, and RainBOw have the biggest losing streak records in BW and now their owning in SC2.
Yeah guess what's gonna happen when BW Pros who are decent NOWADAYS start switching over
"The oldest OSL champion - (T)iloveoov (22 years, 3 monthes and 27 days, Shinhan Bank OSL 2005) The oldest MSL champion - (T)BoxeR (21 years, 7 month and 10 days, KPGA 1st Tour) The oldest OSL runner-up - (T)BoxeR (25 years, 2 monthes and 1 day, So1 OSL 2005) The oldest MSL runner-up - (P)Nal_rA (24 years, 4 monthes and 1 day, Pringles 1 MSL 2006)"
I'm confused... if this is for oldest, why are the older winners the "runner ups" ?
On November 15 2010 05:57 dig wrote: "The oldest OSL champion - (T)iloveoov (22 years, 3 monthes and 27 days, Shinhan Bank OSL 2005) The oldest MSL champion - (T)BoxeR (21 years, 7 month and 10 days, KPGA 1st Tour) The oldest OSL runner-up - (T)BoxeR (25 years, 2 monthes and 1 day, So1 OSL 2005) The oldest MSL runner-up - (P)Nal_rA (24 years, 4 monthes and 1 day, Pringles 1 MSL 2006)"
I'm confused... if this is for oldest, why are the older winners the "runner ups" ?
I don't know if this is a useful record, but maybe we should count number of silvers? Or number of silvers before a gold. Just for OSL/MSL or other leagues too? Obviously the two main contenders are Yellow and Stork. The silver curse!
On November 15 2010 06:23 Iplaythings wrote: you cant count oovs streak as 27-0 if you dont count flash's streak at 24 or so tvt (unless you count his loss vs sea in UPL)
Moreover it makes no sense to count his gom game as a break of his streak, but not counting his GOM title as star league title imo =p. Either GOM counts or it doesn't. But anyway, great op, statistics are always fun
Shouldn't Flash be number one? Maybe it's just late and I'm missing something.
I was confused as well, but I don't think the Terran TOP-1 KeSPA ranking necessarily means that Flash was overall #1 during those months, it just means he was the top Terran ranked player in the KeSPA rankings for those 18 straight months.
On November 15 2010 06:23 Iplaythings wrote: you cant count oovs streak as 27-0 if you dont count flash's streak at 24 or so tvt (unless you count his loss vs sea in UPL)
Moreover it makes no sense to count his gom game as a break of his streak, but not counting his GOM title as star league title imo =p. Either GOM counts or it doesn't. But anyway, great op, statistics are always fun
Yeah, if we counted Gom flash would have moar titles then the dong
The streaks are problematic because it depends on what leagues you want to count or what TLPD/KesPA has. Apparently, Oov's TvZ streak was only 27-3.
Possible things to add: Most wins for each race Most losses for each race Best winning percentage for each race (I know that changes a lot, but the main rankings will stay about the same) Most consecutive league finals overall (OSL and MSL)
More difficult to research, but might be interesting: Most wins/losses in one year for each race Most proleague appearances/wins/losses for each race Most ace appearances/wins/losses for each race
Great job! If possible I'd also like to see a team record section. Another idea might be financial records like highest paid or something (if you can find reliable data).
On November 15 2010 08:05 Kenpachi wrote: Possibly the shortest game ever goes to Canata vs RorO on RoadRunner or Tornado? (I still make fun of canata for this game LOL)
I did not see this game and can't find it on youtube That's a pity, sounds amazing in its own way.
On November 15 2010 08:05 Kenpachi wrote: Possibly the shortest game ever goes to Canata vs RorO on RoadRunner or Tornado? (I still make fun of canata for this game LOL)
Wasn't there just game with Ruby leaving game and losing it at -0.02 seconds? That would be shortest game if its counted.
On November 15 2010 08:05 Kenpachi wrote: Possibly the shortest game ever goes to Canata vs RorO on RoadRunner or Tornado? (I still make fun of canata for this game LOL)
Heheh. Adding the longest televised match would also be awesome, as it would make people go O__O at the difference in the range!
On November 15 2010 08:05 Kenpachi wrote: Possibly the shortest game ever goes to Canata vs RorO on RoadRunner or Tornado? (I still make fun of canata for this game LOL)
Wasn't there just game with Ruby leaving game and losing it at -0.02 seconds? That would be shortest game if its counted.
On November 15 2010 08:05 Kenpachi wrote: Possibly the shortest game ever goes to Canata vs RorO on RoadRunner or Tornado? (I still make fun of canata for this game LOL)
Wasn't there just game with Ruby leaving game and losing it at -0.02 seconds? That would be shortest game if its counted.
I wouldnt count DQs
But the judging was "game has started, so leaving is same as leaving in middle of game would be"... oh anyways it's kinda borderline so decide how its best.
Age The youngest age of TV win - BaBy (13 years, 2 monthes and 17 days) The oldest age of TV win - BoxeR (29 years, 5 monthes and 1 day)
The youngest OSL champion - Flash (15 years, 8 monthes and 10 days, Bacchus OSL 2008) The youngest MSL champion - Mind (16 years, 1 month and 14 days, GomTV 3 MSL 2007) The youngest OSL runner-up - Fantasy (17 years and 4 months, Incruit OSL 2008) The youngest MSL runner-up - Kal (17 years, 4 months and 19 days, GomTV4 MSL 2008) The youngest player to achieve the Golden Mouse - Flash (18 years, 2 months and 6 days, Korean Air Season 2 OSL 2010)
OSL and MSL performance The most OSL and MSL wins - NaDa (6) The most OSL and MSL finals appearances - NaDa (10) The most OSL and MSL Semi-final (Ro4) appearances - NaDa (11) The most OSL and MSL Ro16 appearances - NaDa (26) The longest streak of OSL finals appearances - BoxeR and Flash (3 finals straight) The longest streak of MSL finals appearances - sAviOr (5 finals straight)
Then like "Screw it. They are all impressive!!11": + Show Spoiler +
KeSPA The longest streak of being at TOP-1 KeSPA - BoxeR (17 months straight) The longest streak of being at Top-30 KeSPA - NaDa (87 months straight) The highest number of KeSPA points - Flash (4292.5, September 2010) Terran TOP-1 KeSPA - Flash (30 months, 18 straight) Zerg TOP-1 KeSPA - Jaedong (34 months straight) Protoss TOP-1 KeSPA - Bisu (22 months, 11 straight)
ELO The highest ELO Peak - Flash (2443 pts) The highest vsT ELO Peak - Flash (2317 pts) The highest vsP ELO Peak - Jaedong (2322 pts) The highest vsZ ELO Peak - Jaedong (2341 pts)
Win and loss streaks The longest win streak - GoRush (16-0) The longest TvT win streak - Flash (15-0) The longest TvZ win streak - iloveoov (27-0) The longest TvP win streak - Flash (13-0) The longest ZvT win streak - YellOw and Jaedong (12-0) The longest ZvZ win streak - Jaedong (11-0) The longest ZvP win streak - Jaedong (15-0) The longest PvT win streak - Stork (14-0) The longest PvZ win streak - Bisu (10-0) The longest PvP win streak - Best (17-0)
The longest loss streak - JinNam (0-16) The longest TvT loss streak - BoxeR, Justin, JoyO (0-8) The longest TvZ loss streak - Hery (0-11) The longest TvP loss streak - UpMaGiC (0-10) The longest ZvT loss streak - Clon, TheWinD, JinNam (0-11) The longest ZvZ loss streak - JinNam (0-9) The longest ZvP loss streak - Shark (0-7) The longest PvT loss streak - SangHo (0-11) The longest PvZ loss streak - TerAtO, fOru, RainBOw (0-9) The longest PvP loss streak - Zeus (0-10)
On November 15 2010 05:35 Raiden X wrote: Kind of ironic that TheWinD,SangHo, and RainBOw have the biggest losing streak records in BW and now their owning in SC2.
Boxer as well, which is quite surprising to me. Didn't know he was in that list.
On November 15 2010 07:43 SimonB wrote: Best winning percentage for each race (I know that changes a lot, but the main rankings will stay about the same)
Well, you'd just do "highest winning percent for each race or matchup" with the caveat of a minimum X number of games played.
Wow! This is such a great thread. I applaud all the people who put effort into making this possible! ^^ Two things I feel like saying: 1. Wow...Kal and Fantasy were younger than I am now when they made runner-up in their respective leagues...It makes me feel like I haven't done anything with my competitive SC career =( 2. Was the Incruit OSL really 2 years ago? I remember it like it was just a couple of months ago. Gosh, I feel old. =(
Awesome. This should be on Liquipedia once it gets better fleshed out. This thread still serves as a good way to discuss and collaborate on information, though.
3-10-25 4-07-1 between these 2 dates I count 26 wins for Iloveoov in a row vs. Zerg, is this the streak OP refers to? and if so, what part of it do people in here disagree with? I am actually pretty new to following the proscene so I am clueless :/
On November 15 2010 12:09 Moderas wrote: 3-10-25 4-07-1 between these 2 dates I count 26 wins for Iloveoov in a row vs. Zerg, is this the streak OP refers to? and if so, what part of it do people in here disagree with? I am actually pretty new to following the proscene so I am clueless :/
On November 15 2010 04:13 Bifur wrote: The highest number of KeSPA points - Flash (4292.5, September 2010)
Please remove that, because the way points are calculated has been changed numorous times during the years so it is kinda irrelevant to players, who had their peak few years ago (Boxer/Savior/Nada etc...)
On November 15 2010 13:46 dras wrote: how the hell did iloveoov win 27 straight TvZ's? imbalance?
Some of the games during that streak were in non-ranked leagues (invitationals) so it is arguable how well did the players prepare. Nevertheless, it is awesome
On November 15 2010 10:53 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Isn't FlaSh's vT streak 22 games? I guess that's counting KeSPA sanctioned only, which would exclude GOM and WCG.
According to Kespa, Flash's TvT streak is the longest 1 matchup streak ever since Oov's was technically only 18-0 and Flash was something like 22-0. But Kespa kind of intentionally didn't count certain leagues.
You should include all time winning percentage overall and by each mu with some arbitrary minimum. Also most played maps, most balanced maps, least balanced maps my mu and ect.
For match-ups, I would think Flash for overall, Terran, and Protoss and Jaedong for Zerg. Maybe there are players who, with a low enough minimum count of games would pass them in one of the vX categories.
I started something like this on Liquipedia once, but never got farther than most Dragoon and Reaver kills in a single game haha. Anyway, those (and other alike) might be cool to add, and I do still think it'd be super cool to add this to the wiki when you have a substantial list. It'll be handy to keep track of also since everyone can edit it. Let me know if you need help doing this or if I can do this for you.
On November 15 2010 04:13 Bifur wrote: The highest number of KeSPA points - Flash (4292.5, September 2010)
Please remove that, because the way points are calculated has been changed numorous times during the years so it is kinda irrelevant to players, who had their peak few years ago (Boxer/Savior/Nada etc...)
On November 15 2010 13:46 dras wrote: how the hell did iloveoov win 27 straight TvZ's? imbalance?
Some of the games during that streak were in non-ranked leagues (invitationals) so it is arguable how well did the players prepare. Nevertheless, it is awesome
On November 15 2010 10:53 KiLL_ORdeR wrote: Isn't FlaSh's vT streak 22 games? I guess that's counting KeSPA sanctioned only, which would exclude GOM and WCG.
On November 15 2010 05:14 hacklebeast wrote: Wow gorush. I remember people talking about how good you were from time to time but damn.
The only streaks that is current is Flash's OSL finals aperences, Joyo's vT losing streak and JinNam's vT losing streak right?
edit: forgot that Joyo was a race picker. So he dosent have the longest Tvt losing streak because he played protoss for those. The first game of his losing streak on TLPD was against boxer, and he played protoss for that one.
On November 15 2010 06:23 Iplaythings wrote: you cant count oovs streak as 27-0 if you dont count flash's streak at 24 or so tvt (unless you count his loss vs sea in UPL)
The only progamer to appear simultaneously in both OSL and MSL finals 3 seasons straight - Flash
The only pair of progamers to appear simultaneously in 3 MSL finals straight (Flash and Jaedong)
Pairs of progamers to appear simultaneously in both OSL and MSL finals in one season: NaDa and ChoJJa (Baskin Robbins KPGA 4th Tour, 2002/10/25 - 2003/1/18, and Panasonic OnGameNet Starleague, 2002/11/15 - 2003/02/14), Flash and Jaedong (Bigfile MSL, 2010/07/01 - 2010/08/23 and Korean Air OnGameNet StarLeague Season 2, 2010/06/16 - 2010/09/11)
i like the existence of the reaver kill stat. in game stuff is more interesting to me than streaks or ages (though i imagine it's hard to get data for ingame stuff). good compilation, nonetheless!
You can also add stats like longest and shortest game in PL/OSL/MSL which I'm not sure of the stats but I guess if you count the Flash v Ruby game from a few weeks would be like a 2 second win.
On November 16 2010 00:56 pred470r wrote: You can also add stats like longest and shortest game in PL/OSL/MSL which I'm not sure of the stats but I guess if you count the Flash v Ruby game from a few weeks would be like a 2 second win.
i think it 's -3 second, the game even didn't start
it means you won the starleague on your first qualification but you could have attempted it 50 times before and failed to qualify, then when you do qualify you happen to win
i think free did this, when he failed to qualify multiple times, then qualified, and was called "royal roading"
On November 16 2010 04:52 BoldMan wrote: nah screw the royal roading thing
royal roading means nothing
it means you won the starleague on your first qualification but you could have attempted it 50 times before and failed to qualify, then when you do qualify you happen to win
i think free did this, when he failed to qualify multiple times, then qualified, and was called "royal roading"
doesn't really mean anything :d
Yes it does. The games before qualification are nothing like the ones after it. Overcoming the pressure from qualification rounds can take 50 tries, and you wouldn't be prepared for the pressure afterwards in the actual Ro64/32/16/8/w.e. It does mean something to go for gold from the moment you first enter a tournament, because it means that you are just that much better than the experienced others.
I remember when there was an argument about who performed stronger Zergs or Terrans in sc, and it was agreed that zergs overall performance was better, well, I wish they had this list.
On November 15 2010 04:26 Warrior Madness wrote: I thought flash would have a much higher winning record than JD, considering his titanic ELO record.
Flash's 71.66% equates to winning 2.53 games for every one he loses. Jaedong's 68.38 equates to winning 2.16 games for every one he loses.
That's an impressive difference. What more were you asking for?
if you calculate flash's odds vs jd (by elo) it comes out to flash being favored at 2-3 (or more precisely 60.96% to win)
reason why flash has such a high elo is due to the quality of opponents that he has faced. to put it in perspective, for example just becaus someone has a high win rate at d rank it doesnt automatically translate to a high win rate at a rank on iccup.
if you go by win percentage flash is 17% "better" than jd.
and this wonderful article just makes us think about how balanced is sc))) and how really dominating were and are the terrans, I wanted to see Jaedong in the list of the best of the best, makes my fanboy heart very very sad
"- You have a chance to break the highest "Streak XvX" Record (iloveoov's 18-0 Record vs Zerg is the highest. For people who are confused, iloveoov's record IS NOT 27-0, it is 27-3) ▲ I had no idea I was so close. If I can break it, it would be an honor. A player may fade away, but a record lives on until the end of time. I have 1 game left to reach iloveoov's record and I will try my best to break it."
On November 17 2010 06:08 GGzerG wrote: Wow Snow with a 72 kill reaver? does anyone have the video of this game / who it was vs? i'd like to see this game! Hopefully it is on youtube lol.
If anyone has link to the video or the replay PM me please. ^_^
That has to be probably the most gosu reaver in history. XD
if we only had access to kespa's complete record. i dont think tlpd is quite as complete
evidence strongly suggesting that iloveoov's win streak isnt 27-0 but rather 18-0 (which is of course still the highest)
Isn't Flash's 19-0 the highest in that case?
in XvX flash has the highest at 22-0 (TVT). the TVZ streak record is held by iloveoov who has 18-0 straight wins, flash's record is 16-0 TVZ (not including gom since that wasnt kespa sanctioned).
On November 17 2010 02:03 Ampleaf wrote: Longest broadcasted games: All:Stork vs GGPlay (18.06.2008) - 1:22:55 SourceVOD TvZ:/to be updated/ TvT:Sea vs Hwasin (14.05.2008) - 1:08:45 VOD PvT:/to be updated/ PvP:Chalrenge vs Rock (26.06.2007) - 1:10:27 ZvZ:YellOw vs GGPlay (07.08.2005) - 42:19 VOD
Fastest wins: All:Niza vs Yooi (16.11.2004) - 02:57 Source TvZ:/to be updated/ TvT:/to be updated/ TvP:Flash vs Bisu (26.09.2008) - 3:20 VOD PvT:Stork vs BoxeR (13.10.2007) - 3:55 VOD PvP:Bisu vs PokJu (25.06.2007) - 3:38 VOD PvZ:Movie vs FireFist (5.12.2009) - 4:13 VOD ZvZ:/to be updated/
There was also a draw between Boxer and a Chinese player (who went by the ID of Lx, I think) in a Chinese competition where Korean progamers were invited (4 Chinese pros vs 4 Koreans). It wasn't a KeSPA rated game, but I think it should still count as "pro SC", especially since Lx was recruited by SKT at some point.
Loving the new records that were posted. I still remember watching the Stork v. GGPlay game. Soooooooo epic. And the Flash v. Jangbi draw was amazing as well
is it possible to search for something like world title in boxing?
Starting from 1st game in tlpd
99-09-25 Progamer Korea Open Lost Temple V-Gundam [z-zone]Khan
suppose the belt went to Gundam and from there to the first progamer that beat Gundam and so on. Who would have it now? Who had it the most, period or games .. etc
Here is a 3 minute 24 second ZvP, although its from WCG Korea Finals. So not only is it not a major league, but both players had already qualified for WCG Grand Finals. Shenanigans ensued.
I wanna watch some of those game like the longest, fastest and draw games but some of the link are from JON747 !! Which reminds me there is no jon acount anymore Damn you youtube !!!
Are these records from standard leagues only or from all leagues? If they contain every league then Movie's PvP losing streak was only 8 because he won some PvP in preliminaries.
I cannot download Flash vs JangBi (07.07.2008) because it's not availible due to copyright isuue. Can someone reupload it?
P.S. флэш просто суший макро терран я не понемаю зачем он вызвался за ничю приемушество было у него на стороне он мог бы просто полететь половиной зданий и поехать войсками в атаку под зданиями зделать сиеге и просто тупо убить тосса у которого был 1 чтормер и пачка кареров с пачкой гунов протев террановского лимита это смешно просто смешно в любом случае у него стояло столько турелей что даже если бы он не смог убить всех кареров то он мог бы просто порубить их интрецепторов а если бы даже не добил то всё равно кареры бы их слили на его туретках которых там было чтук 20
On November 19 2010 07:14 -xpeh- wrote: I cannot download Flash vs JangBi (07.07.2008) because it's not availible due to copyright isuue. Can someone reupload it?
If it's TvZ, Fantasy > Jaedong on Neo Medusa in the PL finals is around 5 minutes I think; it's shorter than any other T>Z I can remember. edit: nvm Flash vs Jaedong is way shorter
the quickest TvZ can be - Flash vs Jaedong = 3:10 (11.08.2010) the quickest TvP can be HiyA vs Shuttle = 3:52 ( 2010 Hana Daetoo MSL 2010-04-22 @ Triathlon) the quickest ZvP can be hyvva vs pusan = 2:51 (ro36 Korean air osl)
On November 19 2010 07:14 -xpeh- wrote: I cannot download Flash vs JangBi (07.07.2008) because it's not availible due to copyright isuue. Can someone reupload it?
P.S. флэш просто суший макро терран я не понемаю зачем он вызвался за ничю приемушество было у него на стороне он мог бы просто полететь половиной зданий и поехать войсками в атаку под зданиями зделать сиеге и просто тупо убить тосса у которого был 1 чтормер и пачка кареров с пачкой гунов протев террановского лимита это смешно просто смешно в любом случае у него стояло столько турелей что даже если бы он не смог убить всех кареров то он мог бы просто порубить их интрецепторов а если бы даже не добил то всё равно кареры бы их слили на его туретках которых там было чтук 20
On November 19 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote: longest TvZ might be flash vs jaedong from WCG korea @ grand line. ~50 minutes
FBH vs Savior on Python was longer, 59 minutes forty something seconds.
oh shit i cant believe i forgot about that game lol
also didnt yellow have some very long games vs nada (some base-elim game on rush hour that came down to like 1 marine vs 1 lurker) and xellos (another base-elim game from olympus OSL)? im not sure if they are as long though, but I cant find VODs anywhere to check.
On November 19 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote: longest TvZ might be flash vs jaedong from WCG korea @ grand line. ~50 minutes
FBH vs Savior on Python was longer, 59 minutes forty something seconds.
oh shit i cant believe i forgot about that game lol
also didnt yellow have some very long games vs nada (some base-elim game on rush hour that came down to like 1 marine vs 1 lurker) and xellos (another base-elim game from olympus OSL)? im not sure if they are as long though, but I cant find VODs anywhere to check.
I've got the video from the second, not that long (amazing game though, it is in the osl finals video collection thread).
OSL and MSL performance The most OSL and MSL wins - (T)NaDa (6) The most OSL and MSL finals appearances - (T)NaDa (10) The most OSL and MSL Semi-final (Ro4) appearances - (T)NaDa (11) The most OSL and MSL Ro16 appearances - (T)NaDa (26)
How about the pair that has been played the most? I have no idea which pair has been played the most, but I'd hazard a guess of Jaedong vs Flash. I could be wrong.
On November 28 2010 16:11 SwordM13X24 wrote: How about the pair that has been played the most? I have no idea which pair has been played the most, but I'd hazard a guess of Jaedong vs Flash. I could be wrong.
Jaedong vs Flash is 39 games so far Boxer vs Yellow is 43
this is full of awesomeness! can't forget about ToSsGirL for being the only female to ever play in the male leagues, and Grrrr... for being the only foreigner to win an OSL
Cool thread. I especially like the "shortest games" section — about to watch a couple and figure out what the hell happened. I'm guessing extreme BO losses, like 4pool vs 14cc.
On December 04 2010 03:48 JWD wrote: Cool thread. I especially like the "shortest games" section — about to watch a couple and figure out what the hell happened. I'm guessing extreme BO losses, like 4pool vs 14cc.
On November 19 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote: longest TvZ might be flash vs jaedong from WCG korea @ grand line. ~50 minutes
FBH vs Savior on Python was longer, 59 minutes forty something seconds.
There have definitely been games over an hour long. Without checking times, that Stork vZ game on Andromeda was so long the ref paused and asked if they wanted to continue and a couple other Sair/Carrier games were really long.
On November 19 2010 15:46 Ideas wrote: longest TvZ might be flash vs jaedong from WCG korea @ grand line. ~50 minutes
FBH vs Savior on Python was longer, 59 minutes forty something seconds.
There have definitely been games over an hour long. Without checking times, that Stork vZ game on Andromeda was so long the ref paused and asked if they wanted to continue and a couple other Sair/Carrier games were really long.
Really love this, probably been on everyone's mind but you acutally did something. Looking back at records from Nada, iloveoov, Boxer, and now Flash,, those are some monster terrans...
I mentioned this back on page 1 but I see it still hasn't been added. Going by standard leagues then Shuttle has a 10-0 PvZ streak also. However if the GOM games aren't being counted then he actually holds the record with an 11-0 streak.
On December 12 2010 08:40 Azure Sky wrote: I mentioned this back on page 1 but I see it still hasn't been added. Going by standard leagues then Shuttle has a 10-0 PvZ streak also. However if the GOM games aren't being counted then he actually holds the record with an 11-0 streak.
I want to see the IdrA/NoNy game (not in the Korean PL so don't think it qualifies) where he 14 cc'd and then cancelled his CC on accident and then gg'd.
On December 20 2010 20:55 catabowl wrote: I want to see the IdrA/NoNy game (not in the Korean PL so don't think it qualifies) where he 14 cc'd and then cancelled his CC on accident and then gg'd.
i m pretty sure there is an even faster win in SC. i recall it was a protoss player trying to proxy 2 gate but when the zealot came out it was stuck behind the edge and the gateway itself. meanwhile the enemy scouted the proxy so he gg'ed immediately.
On December 21 2010 13:53 dybydx wrote: i m pretty sure there is an even faster win in SC. i recall it was a protoss player trying to proxy 2 gate but when the zealot came out it was stuck behind the edge and the gateway itself. meanwhile the enemy scouted the proxy so he gg'ed immediately.
On December 21 2010 13:53 dybydx wrote: i m pretty sure there is an even faster win in SC. i recall it was a protoss player trying to proxy 2 gate but when the zealot came out it was stuck behind the edge and the gateway itself. meanwhile the enemy scouted the proxy so he gg'ed immediately.
I seem to remeber that happening on match point. It may be a different game than what you were thinking of, but that situation could not have happened too many times on the pro level, so it is most likly the same game. I won't be able to find it, I'm just trying to help someone else. I also seem to remember that MBC was involved, either as the cheeser or the defender. Just checked Light, sea, and jaehoon's games on Match Piont. None of them...
On December 21 2010 13:53 dybydx wrote: i m pretty sure there is an even faster win in SC. i recall it was a protoss player trying to proxy 2 gate but when the zealot came out it was stuck behind the edge and the gateway itself. meanwhile the enemy scouted the proxy so he gg'ed immediately.
I seem to remeber that happening on match point. It may be a different game than what you were thinking of, but that situation could not have happened too many times on the pro level, so it is most likly the same game. I won't be able to find it, I'm just trying to help someone else. I also seem to remember that MBC was involved, either as the cheeser or the defender. Just checked Light, sea, and jaehoon's games on Match Piont. None of them...
No, this was an old game. From like 2002 or 2003 or something. Was it IntoTheRainbow? In any case, it was on space tileset, so that may be why you're confused.
On December 21 2010 13:53 dybydx wrote: i m pretty sure there is an even faster win in SC. i recall it was a protoss player trying to proxy 2 gate but when the zealot came out it was stuck behind the edge and the gateway itself. meanwhile the enemy scouted the proxy so he gg'ed immediately.
I seem to remeber that happening on match point. It may be a different game than what you were thinking of, but that situation could not have happened too many times on the pro level, so it is most likly the same game. I won't be able to find it, I'm just trying to help someone else. I also seem to remember that MBC was involved, either as the cheeser or the defender. Just checked Light, sea, and jaehoon's games on Match Piont. None of them...
No, this was an old game. From like 2002 or 2003 or something. Was it IntoTheRainbow? In any case, it was on space tileset, so that may be why you're confused.
i =1 the record of most money earned by starcraft. though i have a feeling it would be boxer or nada. i heard somewhere that nada made like 200,000 a year playing and sponsorships.
guys we have a new record broken!!! set 3 between fantasy vs calm not gonna say who won although for most people it would be obvious by the time fastest win so far was 2:51 by hyvaa vs pusan new record is 2:36 counted from the video of youtube if anyone wants to be more precised he needs to check the actual replay (it would be a mater of difference of maybe a second to either way ) but def faster than 2:51 . congratulation for the winner and for the one that broke the record, could be the same one maybe i'm not the one that will spoil it .
In light of Bisu's recent 15 win PL streak, I figured it would be a good time to revive this thread
Does anyone know what the longest OSL, MSL and PL win/loss streaks are? I'm guessing its impressively difficult to have a long OSL or MSL loss streak, since you wouldn't make it back in if you were sucking...
can i just ask why in the draw between flash and jangbi in SPL (2008 07 07) jangbi receives the win in the TLPD? same goes for the other draws (one player receives the win). TLPD can't consider draws?
On February 15 2011 17:17 radialis wrote: can i just ask why in the draw between flash and jangbi in SPL (2008 07 07) jangbi receives the win in the TLPD? same goes for the other draws (one player receives the win). TLPD can't consider draws?
On April 01 2011 09:11 e_i_pi_1_0 wrote: I think he meant biggest ZvT winstreak over his career, in standard leagues only. For all leagues, it's 12-0, according to TLPD.
That is an older streak by JD. I assume that he is referring to JD's current streak(which is broken) because since 11-01-06, he started a ZvT win streak and played 13 games up to now, and there is no other 13-0 vT record that I can see in JD's record.
On April 07 2011 05:47 Elroi wrote: Jaedong just achieved 200 wins in PL... dunno if that's a record though.
I think he's the first person to do so. Probably won't hold the record for "youngest person to get 200 PL wins" for too long, since Flash is pretty close as well.
The only pair of progamers to loose 2 consecutive OSL and MSL together: Fantasy and Jangbi (Fantasy lost 2 OSL and Jangbi Lost 2 MSL during the period from September 2008 till March 2009) Of course it is not a record, but something really worth of mentioning before the finals. :D
The oldest OSL champion - JangBi (22 years, 4 months and 2 weeks, Jin Air OSL 2011)
I think I can post this, because (1) finals were the whole 4 days ago, and (2) different records could be (re)written possibly, so if you dont look under spoiler, you should still be unaware of result
Wow I'm amazed that wasn't July's Golden Mouse OSL. Apparently July was only 21 (nearly 22 tho) when he won his last OSL. Sometimes looking at these stats is so sobering to see just how young champions are and how young old legends are as well.
Wow I'm amazed that wasn't July's Golden Mouse OSL. Apparently July was only 21 (nearly 22 tho) when he won his last OSL. Sometimes looking at these stats is so sobering to see just how young champions are and how young old legends are as well.
btw I almost immediately remembered of July's OSL win when Jangbi won the last game. It's very similar in terms of surprisingness that a certain player is still good enough for winning an OSL o_O
On September 21 2011 20:58 arbiter_md wrote: I think it's for the first time in BW history when ELO for highest PvZ peak is higher than ELO for highest ZvP peak.
Truly incredible stat. For all of Bisu's flaws/failings you can't deny he is one of the most special BW players to ever live. When it comes to PvZ he is truly the chosen one.
Flash vs RuBy now holds the record for the fastest win ever:
While Ruby left during the countdown, it was technically an official victory for flash (no disqualification) since KeSPA rules state the game starts when the countdown starts (and ruled that Ruby surrendered the game).
Boxer's 17-0 streak is mostly WCG Korea games, and even if you elected to count those there are four exhibition games. Mind you, it's very cool that he defeated everyone in WCG, but it's really not the same standard you usually hold a win streak to. Maybe I am just a sucker for GoRush.
Jangbi's Jin Air OSL win was 16 games in the OSL and 11 games in the prelims (27 games). Effort's Korean Air S1 run was 24 games in the OSL (if you recall those tiebreakers - and he was seeded that season so no prelims). Kind of cool.
On September 09 2012 13:53 BongChambers wrote: Ahhh Grrrr... ..... So legendary, on the levels of Boxer even.
What?
Are you blind? Did you even bother to read the OP?
The only foreigner to win an OSL - (P)Grrrr... (Hanaro Communication Tooniverse OSL, 99/00)
Grrrr... is pretty much the first foreigner to go to Korea, beat Boxer in a broadcasted event during his early prime and win a OSL, what more do you want?
On September 09 2012 13:53 BongChambers wrote: Ahhh Grrrr... ..... So legendary, on the levels of Boxer even.
What?
Are you blind? Did you even bother to read the OP?
The only foreigner to win an OSL - (P)Grrrr... (Hanaro Communication Tooniverse OSL, 99/00)
Grrrr... is pretty much the first foreigner to go to Korea, beat Boxer in a broadcasted event during his early prime and win a OSL, what more do you want?
Yeah, that doesn't put him on the same level as Boxer.
On September 09 2012 13:53 BongChambers wrote: Ahhh Grrrr... ..... So legendary, on the levels of Boxer even.
What?
Are you blind? Did you even bother to read the OP?
The only foreigner to win an OSL - (P)Grrrr... (Hanaro Communication Tooniverse OSL, 99/00)
Grrrr... is pretty much the first foreigner to go to Korea, beat Boxer in a broadcasted event during his early prime and win a OSL, what more do you want?
just cause hes foreigner and won, doesnt mean hes on the same level as boxer. you could say the same for all the other 1-timer players, doesnt mean just cause they won once means that they are boxer level.
Whoaa, what! Damn, fuck stacked mutas, they screwed ZvZ!
I don't think it quite makes sense to combine the records from the two separate eras (due to the vastly contrasting set of circumstances), but it certainly would be interesting to come up with a similarly themed trivia filled post for the ASL.
Take the following trivia below for example,
The oldest player to record a victory within the ASL: PuSan (aged 32 years 3 months 9 days)
Should this record replace BoxeR's record despite it not being televised anywhere? Should it be taken into consideration since the stature of online streaming has grown so much compared to the past? Should the average age of the contestants being so high compared to the past be also taken into consideration? BoxeR beat Killer, who made his professional debut more than seven years after BoxeR's debut as a professional, whereas PuSan beat Stork for his record within the ASL, a contemporary peer roughly speaking, in terms of the timing of his debut as a professional gamer (they both won their Courage Tournament in 2004).
If the influx of new Brood War talent slowed down enough at an earlier point in time (hypothetically speaking), wouldn't it be possible for BoxeR to simply break his own record playing versus his contemporary peers over and over again?
EPT
BaBy (13 years, 2 months and 17 days)
Kal (17 years, 4 months and 19 days, GomTV4 MSL 2008)
Jaedong (12)
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That's a pity, sounds amazing in its own way.
