• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:02
CET 22:02
KST 06:02
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book13Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info7herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational14
Community News
Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win2Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker7PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)9Weekly Cups (Jan 26-Feb 1): herO, Clem, ByuN, Classic win2RSL Season 4 announced for March-April8
StarCraft 2
General
Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Terran Scanner Sweep How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Weekly Cups (Feb 2-8): Classic, Solar, MaxPax win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL Season 4 announced for March-April PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar) WardiTV Mondays $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ? [A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 512 Overclocked The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 511 Temple of Rebirth Mutation # 510 Safety Violation
Brood War
General
Gypsy to Korea [ASL21] Potential Map Candidates BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Liquipedia.net NEEDS editors for Brood War
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 1 Small VOD Thread 2.0 KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates Zealot bombing is no longer popular? Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta
Other Games
General Games
Diablo 2 thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread EVE Corporation Nintendo Switch Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Sex and weight loss YouTube Thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Play, Watch, Drink: Esports …
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
StarCraft improvement
iopq
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1612 users

new record for shortest broadcast game

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
1 2 3 4 Next All
uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
November 16 2004 03:57 GMT
#1
2 minutes and 57 seconds, niza beat yooi with a 4 pool, eclipsing the previous record of 3 minutes 13 seconds (or so). afterwards, niza said something like, "i didn't use 4 pool to try to beat the record," and "i'm so sorry to yooi." to which i say:

* why did you 4 pool if you were going to be sorry about it? i suppose even among pros there's some sensitivity to cheese~

* also, does anyone else notice that z's seem to be 4/5/6 pooling alot more recently?
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
November 16 2004 03:59 GMT
#2
lmao whats up with all the cheese
How do you mine minerals?
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
November 16 2004 04:00 GMT
#3
awesome, go 4 poolers...

Its only fair. -_-

To anyone who says 4 pool is cheesier than early rax, just remember that early rax is nearly as dangerous, but its actually a safe strat. Which is kind of lame.
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
November 16 2004 04:05 GMT
#4
maybe the face of pro-gaming strategy is changing, and all progamers will start cheesing, and they will start developing anti-cheese strats that are cheeses in itself!!

omg its a half-assed paradox!
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2004 04:08 GMT
#5
id be so fucking pissed to lose to that shit. Its the epitome of "win or die" strats that koreans boost foreigners use and koreans dont.
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
November 16 2004 04:12 GMT
#6
you mean boast?

I always have thought that koreans are the ultimate gay at BW. They are so extremely willing to go do or die on an opponent. ON gamei, when I played, it seemed like simple survival was enough to win vs all the cheesy terrans and zergs I played. ( im toss)
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
shinigami
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada423 Posts
November 16 2004 04:16 GMT
#7
It seems Koreans are willing to accept cheese as a form of a whole new level of starcraft gaming.

Disrespecting your opponent and winning at the same time!
If you lose while cheesing, it was a cheese anyways!
No big deal, 'cause it had a high rate of failure anyways!

Absolutely genius.
I was thinking about joining a debate club, but I was talked out of it.
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
November 16 2004 04:24 GMT
#8
On November 16 2004 13:16 shinigami wrote:
It seems Koreans are willing to accept cheese as a form of a whole new level of starcraft gaming.

Disrespecting your opponent and winning at the same time!
If you lose while cheesing, it was a cheese anyways!
No big deal, 'cause it had a high rate of failure anyways!

Absolutely genius.


Wow, it IS genius..!! I wish I could see it like that.

Soon, you will be laughed at if you play depot before rax, overlord before pool, or anything later than a 6 pylon.
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
November 16 2004 04:26 GMT
#9
Revenge for yellow on those terrans...
WhizKid77
Profile Joined November 2003
China682 Posts
November 16 2004 04:31 GMT
#10
hmm the 2min57sec record is kinda pointless because it all depends on when the terran says gg and leaves. yooi could have floated his cc and waited like 20 seconds
hay guys u thare???
Bizkit
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden1137 Posts
November 16 2004 04:37 GMT
#11
I think all the pro zergs have made some hidden sect to cheese cuz of yellows games versus boxer =D
http://www.gosugamers.net
wasted
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany1789 Posts
November 16 2004 04:57 GMT
#12
i think i'd be able to lose faster than that
---gone---
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 16 2004 04:58 GMT
#13
On November 16 2004 13:31 WhizKid77 wrote:
hmm the 2min57sec record is kinda pointless because it all depends on when the terran says gg and leaves. yooi could have floated his cc and waited like 20 seconds


That's why he didn't use it just to beat the record.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
thelucas
Profile Joined October 2004
Slovakia285 Posts
November 16 2004 05:09 GMT
#14
Cheesing is good, the game will develop to next level, maybe pro will start sooner scouting. With 5th worker.
The real fight will begin in 2nd minute.
this is possibility to show what is perfection
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-16 05:13:53
November 16 2004 05:13 GMT
#15
damn cheeses, i'll have to scout with 1st worker now
How do you mine minerals?
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-16 05:23:53
November 16 2004 05:23 GMT
#16
u stupid !! cheese is ART and GENIUS !!! didn't Boxer show that?

j/k
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
November 16 2004 05:27 GMT
#17
it will all end in peon rushes:O
ANd then noone will argue terranibest!
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
November 16 2004 05:37 GMT
#18
Gosh, imagine 4 pool 8 rax 6/7 pylon becoming a standard buildup, haha. How noobie would that be!

A guy who plays the 1st time in his life with zerg, mostly goes 4pool.. how noobie would we look
aka sunsHine
yare
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
507 Posts
November 16 2004 05:39 GMT
#19
starcraft has always been an evolving mass of strategies. perhaps zerg needs good rushing again to bring terran back down to managable starts instead of ultra greedy ultra teched.
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
November 16 2004 05:39 GMT
#20
BUt omfg, what if this, actually is the perfect play.
6 years of advanced strats, timing & skills, to eventually end up in the very beginning.
aka sunsHine
1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Big Brain Bouts
19:00
#106 Main Match Qualifier
RotterdaM586
Liquipedia
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
RotterdaM 586
mouzHeroMarine 524
SteadfastSC 162
elazer 129
UpATreeSC 124
JuggernautJason85
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 1738
Mini 334
EffOrt 302
ggaemo 76
hero 53
910 19
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps2246
fl0m1656
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu564
Trikslyr77
Other Games
Grubby4638
FrodaN873
Beastyqt793
B2W.Neo505
shahzam334
ToD140
CosmosSc2 16
tarik_tv0
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 27
Other Games
BasetradeTV21
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta26
• Reevou 3
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• HerbMon 57
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV371
League of Legends
• TFBlade1014
Other Games
• imaqtpie2293
• Shiphtur298
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
3h 59m
Replay Cast
11h 59m
LiuLi Cup
13h 59m
Clem vs Rogue
SHIN vs Cyan
Replay Cast
1d 2h
The PondCast
1d 12h
KCM Race Survival
1d 12h
LiuLi Cup
1d 13h
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs herO
Replay Cast
2 days
Online Event
2 days
LiuLi Cup
2 days
Serral vs Zoun
Cure vs Classic
[ Show More ]
Big Brain Bouts
2 days
Serral vs TBD
RSL Revival
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
LiuLi Cup
3 days
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
LiuLi Cup
4 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
LiuLi Cup
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-02-09
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
LiuLi Cup: 2025 Grand Finals
Nations Cup 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W8
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
WardiTV Winter 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
FISSURE Playground #3
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.