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uhjoo
Profile Joined October 2004
Korea (South)1740 Posts
November 16 2004 03:57 GMT
#1
2 minutes and 57 seconds, niza beat yooi with a 4 pool, eclipsing the previous record of 3 minutes 13 seconds (or so). afterwards, niza said something like, "i didn't use 4 pool to try to beat the record," and "i'm so sorry to yooi." to which i say:

* why did you 4 pool if you were going to be sorry about it? i suppose even among pros there's some sensitivity to cheese~

* also, does anyone else notice that z's seem to be 4/5/6 pooling alot more recently?
i want bubbles the warrior monkey back
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
November 16 2004 03:59 GMT
#2
lmao whats up with all the cheese
How do you mine minerals?
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
November 16 2004 04:00 GMT
#3
awesome, go 4 poolers...

Its only fair. -_-

To anyone who says 4 pool is cheesier than early rax, just remember that early rax is nearly as dangerous, but its actually a safe strat. Which is kind of lame.
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
November 16 2004 04:05 GMT
#4
maybe the face of pro-gaming strategy is changing, and all progamers will start cheesing, and they will start developing anti-cheese strats that are cheeses in itself!!

omg its a half-assed paradox!
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
November 16 2004 04:08 GMT
#5
id be so fucking pissed to lose to that shit. Its the epitome of "win or die" strats that koreans boost foreigners use and koreans dont.
maleorderbride
Profile Joined November 2002
United States2916 Posts
November 16 2004 04:12 GMT
#6
you mean boast?

I always have thought that koreans are the ultimate gay at BW. They are so extremely willing to go do or die on an opponent. ON gamei, when I played, it seemed like simple survival was enough to win vs all the cheesy terrans and zergs I played. ( im toss)
Some cause happiness wherever they go; others, whenever they go.
shinigami
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada423 Posts
November 16 2004 04:16 GMT
#7
It seems Koreans are willing to accept cheese as a form of a whole new level of starcraft gaming.

Disrespecting your opponent and winning at the same time!
If you lose while cheesing, it was a cheese anyways!
No big deal, 'cause it had a high rate of failure anyways!

Absolutely genius.
I was thinking about joining a debate club, but I was talked out of it.
Kaotu
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States986 Posts
November 16 2004 04:24 GMT
#8
On November 16 2004 13:16 shinigami wrote:
It seems Koreans are willing to accept cheese as a form of a whole new level of starcraft gaming.

Disrespecting your opponent and winning at the same time!
If you lose while cheesing, it was a cheese anyways!
No big deal, 'cause it had a high rate of failure anyways!

Absolutely genius.


Wow, it IS genius..!! I wish I could see it like that.

Soon, you will be laughed at if you play depot before rax, overlord before pool, or anything later than a 6 pylon.
MPXMX
Profile Joined December 2002
Canada4309 Posts
November 16 2004 04:26 GMT
#9
Revenge for yellow on those terrans...
WhizKid77
Profile Joined November 2003
China682 Posts
November 16 2004 04:31 GMT
#10
hmm the 2min57sec record is kinda pointless because it all depends on when the terran says gg and leaves. yooi could have floated his cc and waited like 20 seconds
hay guys u thare???
Bizkit
Profile Joined October 2002
Sweden1137 Posts
November 16 2004 04:37 GMT
#11
I think all the pro zergs have made some hidden sect to cheese cuz of yellows games versus boxer =D
http://www.gosugamers.net
wasted
Profile Joined October 2002
Germany1789 Posts
November 16 2004 04:57 GMT
#12
i think i'd be able to lose faster than that
---gone---
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 16 2004 04:58 GMT
#13
On November 16 2004 13:31 WhizKid77 wrote:
hmm the 2min57sec record is kinda pointless because it all depends on when the terran says gg and leaves. yooi could have floated his cc and waited like 20 seconds


That's why he didn't use it just to beat the record.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
thelucas
Profile Joined October 2004
Slovakia285 Posts
November 16 2004 05:09 GMT
#14
Cheesing is good, the game will develop to next level, maybe pro will start sooner scouting. With 5th worker.
The real fight will begin in 2nd minute.
this is possibility to show what is perfection
poor newb
Profile Joined April 2004
United States1879 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-16 05:13:53
November 16 2004 05:13 GMT
#15
damn cheeses, i'll have to scout with 1st worker now
How do you mine minerals?
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-16 05:23:53
November 16 2004 05:23 GMT
#16
u stupid !! cheese is ART and GENIUS !!! didn't Boxer show that?

j/k
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
AgonyRush
Profile Joined January 2003
United States2540 Posts
November 16 2004 05:27 GMT
#17
it will all end in peon rushes:O
ANd then noone will argue terranibest!
A team is only as good as its worst lineup
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
November 16 2004 05:37 GMT
#18
Gosh, imagine 4 pool 8 rax 6/7 pylon becoming a standard buildup, haha. How noobie would that be!

A guy who plays the 1st time in his life with zerg, mostly goes 4pool.. how noobie would we look
aka sunsHine
yare
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
507 Posts
November 16 2004 05:39 GMT
#19
starcraft has always been an evolving mass of strategies. perhaps zerg needs good rushing again to bring terran back down to managable starts instead of ultra greedy ultra teched.
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
November 16 2004 05:39 GMT
#20
BUt omfg, what if this, actually is the perfect play.
6 years of advanced strats, timing & skills, to eventually end up in the very beginning.
aka sunsHine
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