• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 17:41
CEST 23:41
KST 06:41
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt2: News Flash8[ASL21] Ro24 Preview Pt1: New Chaos0Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy16ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT30Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book20
Community News
Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple6Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research8Weekly Cups (March 16-22): herO doubles, Cure surprises3Blizzard Classic Cup @ BlizzCon 2026 - $100k prize pool49Weekly Cups (March 9-15): herO, Clem, ByuN win4
StarCraft 2
General
What mix of new & old maps do you want in the next ladder pool? (SC2) Team Liquid Map Contest #22 - Presented by Monster Energy Aligulac acquired by REPLAYMAN.com/Stego Research Weekly Cups (March 23-29): herO takes triple herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational
Tourneys
RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament StarCraft Evolution League (SC Evo Biweekly) WardiTV Mondays World University TeamLeague (500$+) | Signups Open
Strategy
Custom Maps
[M] (2) Frigid Storage Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026]
External Content
Mutation # 519 Inner Power The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 518 Radiation Zone Mutation # 517 Distant Threat
Brood War
General
ASL21 General Discussion Gypsy to Korea How Can I Add Timer & APM Count? A cwal.gg Extension - Easily keep track of anyone BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/
Tourneys
[ASL21] Ro24 Group F [ASL21] Ro24 Group E Azhi's Colosseum - Foreign KCM Escore Tournament StarCraft Season 2
Strategy
Fighting Spirit mining rates What's the deal with APM & what's its true value Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Starcraft Tabletop Miniature Game General RTS Discussion Thread Darkest Dungeon
Dota 2
The Story of Wings Gaming Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
G2 just beat GenG in First stand
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas TL Mafia Community Thread Five o'clock TL Mafia
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! [Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion Cricket [SPORT] Tokyo Olympics 2021 Thread General nutrition recommendations
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
[G] How to Block Livestream Ads
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Funny Nicknames
LUCKY_NOOB
Money Laundering In Video Ga…
TrAiDoS
Iranian anarchists: organize…
XenOsky
FS++
Kraekkling
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1838 users

new record for shortest broadcast game - Page 2

Forum Index > BW General
Post a Reply
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 16 2004 05:41 GMT
#21
If yooi started his rack at 8, then 6 SCVs at the ramp, he could have fended it off.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
Last Edited: 2004-11-16 05:49:18
November 16 2004 05:41 GMT
#22
On November 16 2004 14:39 Gp.Lao wrote:
BUt omfg, what if this, actually is the perfect play.
6 years of advanced strats, timing & skills, to eventually end up in the very beginning.


yeah Bush is trying the later
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
Hew
Profile Joined November 2004
2 Posts
November 16 2004 05:52 GMT
#23
remember... play to win. If you win by 'cheese', you still win.

Read this article: http://www.sirlin.net/Features/feature_PlaytoWinPart0.htm

Then you will know what I mean
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
November 16 2004 05:58 GMT
#24
oh no not this article again!
aka sunsHine
Gp.Lao
Profile Joined April 2004
Belgium445 Posts
November 16 2004 05:59 GMT
#25
didnt bother to read it once
aint gonna bother to read it twice
aka sunsHine
Danka
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Peru1018 Posts
November 16 2004 06:04 GMT
#26
Like in So many sports it stops being about the game and becomes about winning. Really About the Money. Theres nothing to say except that its sad. It will slowly continue tu degenerate.
Its not the size of the dog in the fight, its the size of the fight in the dog. - Mark Twain
fjfjfjfj
Profile Joined November 2004
United States32 Posts
November 16 2004 06:07 GMT
#27
i think the game of starcraft would benefit a lot if all the games ended in like seven minutes, because then it wouldn't take so goddamn long to play a few games
LegendaryDreams
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Canada1350 Posts
November 16 2004 06:27 GMT
#28
On November 16 2004 15:07 fjfjfjfj wrote:
i think the game of starcraft would benefit a lot if all the games ended in like seven minutes, because then it wouldn't take so goddamn long to play a few games

...obviously you don't know for the fact that most SC games are 15~20 min.
call me moxie
Elvin_vn
Profile Blog Joined March 2004
Vietnam2038 Posts
November 16 2004 08:40 GMT
#29
On November 16 2004 15:07 fjfjfjfj wrote:
i think the game of starcraft would benefit a lot if all the games ended in like seven minutes, because then it wouldn't take so goddamn long to play a few games


I don't think people would pay 10 bucks or so to watch a couple of 7 min games
do not agrue with idiots, they will pull you down to their level and beat you with their experiences
radiaL
Profile Joined August 2003
Andorra2690 Posts
November 16 2004 08:41 GMT
#30
plus 15-20 mins games are perfect for TV broadcast.. half hour broadcasts: 15-20 min game + 5~ of intro/outro + 5~ commericals
sideproject: twitch.tv Starcraft II Viewers data - http://twitchsc2data.com/
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
November 16 2004 08:50 GMT
#31
i higlhy doubt into/ountro's are ever 5 mins long.

though the commercials are good when you see hot kor chicks =]

haha could you imagine, cheese would make wcg over in like an hour

though i highly doubt it will go into efect that cheese=mandatory.

thats a pretty stupid idea actually =/
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
Jesus Christ
Profile Joined October 2004
United States35 Posts
November 16 2004 09:03 GMT
#32
i have always been scouting on 5 ~_~;
Giggle
GoGoGo[cF]
Profile Joined September 2004
China545 Posts
November 16 2004 09:04 GMT
#33
My shortest TMA beat down time was in 5:16, we all got 5000pts and we all bombed...Good Times. :D


Cheese is an art, I seriously don't know why people hate, it. If it happens to you deal with it and learn from it to get better....And next time, don't be so stupid as to let yourself open for such a move.
aka: sbOy[1FaM] ---Retired Gaming---
neSix
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
United States1772 Posts
November 16 2004 09:35 GMT
#34
I have my doubts about cheese becoming so standard. Maybe I'm just hoping there are more people like me, who are too ignorant to change their ways. I'll lose 100 games straight before I start building my pylon at six and holding probes so I can have a gate at seven.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32278 Posts
November 16 2004 10:07 GMT
#35
Sucks to be 4 pooled.

Even i used to play Zerg, there was no point in doing it.

it means you didnt scout at 5 because there is a standard and i have enought apms to make a early and rally point.

It takes the fun out. I know they are playing to win. but damn, whats the point. its also an entretainment for spectators.
Moderator<:3-/-<
FreeMarine
Profile Joined November 2004
Canada76 Posts
November 16 2004 10:46 GMT
#36
Shouldn't everyone be screaming imbalance z>t?
pooper-scooper
Profile Joined May 2003
United States3108 Posts
November 16 2004 11:16 GMT
#37
On November 16 2004 19:46 FreeMarine wrote:
Shouldn't everyone be screaming imbalance z>t?


HA very good point
Good...Bad... Im the guy with the gun
Ack1027
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
United States7873 Posts
November 16 2004 11:24 GMT
#38
On November 16 2004 13:37 Bizkit wrote:
I think all the pro zergs have made some hidden sect to cheese cuz of yellows games versus boxer =D


LMFAO
on.sp33d
Profile Joined October 2004
134 Posts
November 16 2004 11:29 GMT
#39
Well, there is a gain from all this. At least now, progamers will think twice before deciding to go all out early tech.
Good friends stab you in the front.
FeelTheMoment
Profile Joined August 2004
89 Posts
November 16 2004 11:35 GMT
#40
It is no big deal someone 4pooled or 8rax, shit happens all the time.
Prev 1 2 3 4 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
The PiG Daily
21:00
Best Games of SC
Reynor vs Zoun
SHIN vs ByuN
herO vs sOs
Maru vs SHIN
Clem vs Bunny
PiGStarcraft379
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
PiGStarcraft326
ProTech141
StarCraft: Brood War
Mini 1083
Horang2 715
EffOrt 672
actioN 221
firebathero 168
Backho 28
910 26
Dota 2
monkeys_forever292
capcasts90
Super Smash Bros
C9.Mang0217
Other Games
summit1g6038
Grubby3185
FrodaN1858
shahzam513
Liquid`Hasu195
ZombieGrub152
Fuzer 144
ArmadaUGS117
KnowMe94
tarik_tv69
Dewaltoss44
ToD36
minikerr7
Organizations
StarCraft 2
angryscii 58
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• musti20045 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Other Games
• imaqtpie1157
• Shiphtur219
• tFFMrPink 9
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 19m
RSL Revival
12h 19m
Maru vs MaxPax
BSL
21h 19m
RSL Revival
1d 9h
Cure vs Rogue
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
1d 16h
BSL
1d 21h
Afreeca Starleague
2 days
Wardi Open
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
[ Show More ]
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
The PondCast
5 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL Season 20: Qualifier 1
WardiTV Winter 2026
NationLESS Cup

Ongoing

BSL Season 22
CSL Elite League 2026
ASL Season 21
CSL Season 20: Qualifier 2
StarCraft2 Community Team League 2026 Spring
RSL Revival: Season 4
Nations Cup 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026

Upcoming

CSL 2026 SPRING (S20)
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
BSL 22 Non-Korean Championship
CSLAN 4
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
IEM Cologne Major 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 2
CS Asia Championships 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.