EPTYea we just had one in New York and this weekend some tournament at MLG DC too, and that huge tournament in Europe we had a month ago in Germany
Pff "Global" esports my ass right?
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Raevin
246 Posts
Yea we just had one in New York and this weekend some tournament at MLG DC too, and that huge tournament in Europe we had a month ago in Germany Pff "Global" esports my ass right? | ||
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Ramiel
United States1220 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:37 Mettyman wrote: move on, sc1 is dead. get over it. really? REALLY? | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:44 Raevin wrote: <i>Ah yes Blizzards wonderful vision for global eSports. A single tournament for 64 people solely based in Seoul, region locked Battle.net, no LAN. I'm really enjoying this 'development' of eSports.</i> Yea we just had one in New York and this weekend some tournament at MLG DC too, and that huge tournament in Europe we had a month ago in Germany Pff "Global" esports my ass right? How is that united globally with the best players in the world together? Like BW it's going to end up completely split again with all non-Koreans having their own tournaments elsewhere because they can't compete. Then guess which countries scene will be left active in a few years once Western interest in the game dies down... | ||
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Jyvblamo
Canada13788 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:35 matjlav wrote: oh my god, if you guys keep posting shit like this, i'm going to bang my head against the keyboard. at this point, there are 3 options: 1) you are ignoring every post in this thread 2) you are fucking with me 3) you are just that insistent on sticking with your stereotypes of BW fans which one is it? Let me know. I'm about as angry as anyone else about the state of the BW scene and I've been following it since 2006 and I've been very emotionally committed to my favourite players/teams. But talking down to SC2 fans as if they're the enemy makes absolutely no sense to me. [Not that I'm saying there aren't a lot of assclowns in this thread shitting it up with posts like "give it up Bw is dead"...] | ||
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kinray
Bulgaria49 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:41 matjlav wrote: All of this is pretty much the result of Blizzard's legal shit, though. If it weren't for that, there's no way that BW scene would be crumbling like this. As for your money argument, I'll direct you to a post by PoP: Fans always go where the money are. This is the natural way not the other way. If there are money there are fancy shows and people that are good at what they do and this lead the fans to the given sport. If you dan't belive me just check the most hyped sports and you will se it. And about Blizzard claims, well all that IP rights stuff came way after KeSPA started to charge for games to be broadcasted so again it seem that my point stands  Its really sad to watch BW scene dies but nothing is forever. | ||
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matjlav
Germany2435 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:47 Jyvblamo wrote: I'm about as angry as anyone else about the state of the BW scene and I've been following it since 2006 and I've been very emotionally committed to my favourite players/teams. But talking down to SC2 fans as if they're the enemy makes absolutely no sense to me. I agree. I was assuming that you were talking about me and konadora. If you weren't, I'm sorry. If you were, then my point stands. | ||
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ninini
Sweden1204 Posts
why is it that you guys cant see our points? what we're angry is NOT about sc2 replacing bw as "the better esports game", but about how us BW fans arent given an opportunity to stick to what we like. as people mentioned in the other thread, if BW died a natural death then i wouldnt give that much a thought either, but here, blizzard is strangling the BW scene to death. THAT is what i am so pissed about. Exactly. Gretech/Blizzard is forcing SC1 to shut down, because they feel that SC2 can't compete otherwise. This scenarios is like the swedish football/soccer association forcing the english, spanish and italian leagues to shut down, because they can't compete otherwise. It's just ridiculous that the SC1 scene isn't in control of their own leagues, and I really hope that they go to court with this, so they can release themselves from their obligations towards Blizzard once and for all. Everybody who is a fan of SC1 or are working in the scene wants it to continue as before, so what's the problem? SC2 can have their scene if they want. I don't care. Let ppl watch/play the game of their choice, and we'll all be happy. | ||
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DrakanSilva
Chile932 Posts
So this is the real e-sport huh ? I really hope that e-sport grows in USA or Europe as big as it is in Korea... I'm sure that this kind of knowledge will be very usefull for upcoming e-sport associations around the world. This are the kinds of mistakes that can't be done... for the sake of the customers & players. | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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StarcraftMan
Canada507 Posts
On October 13 2010 03:53 [White]NaDa wrote: BW is/was still growing, its potential was unlimited, how can you say that you want it to go to the next level when there is no set level to overcome human ignorance is amazing some times to this quote: On October 13 2010 05:34 Raevin wrote: The reality of the situation is that BW popularity has been wanning and going south the last couple of years, the "golden days" are over, and have been over. Ratings and viewership for BW show this. ROFL. | ||
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Coldviolet
United States110 Posts
On the other hand, there is a quote which isn't translated - Korean culture minister saying "How dare you, you are just a CEO of a company" to Mike Mohaim.(lawl) Korean government is trying to protect KeSPA because it's grouped up with all the big firms, and one more thing which makes it even more interesting is that Blizzard brought a representative from American Embassy on the meeting where Korean government's inspection of the administration asked Blizzard about the copyright problem, which made the situation look far more serious. Honestly, even before all this god damn quarrel, BW scene was dying anyways. :/ Audience rating was getting lower every season, and less people coming to the finals. Hell, even MBC's Tekken crash tournament had higher audience rating than MSL. | ||
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Raevin
246 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:57 StarcraftMan wrote: Compare the following quote: to this quote: ROFL. Its true, the popularity of the game has been going down, even when SC2 Beta was long to see release Brood War achieved its golden age, that age was when Nada, Boxer, Intotherain, Garimto etc were playing, thats when interest for this game was at its peak. SC2 will hit its own peak and will slowly evaporate, it happens to every game. To think that BW would reach those heights again or even beyond is downright deluded thinking | ||
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Crissaegrim
2947 Posts
Future generations thousands of years from now will rediscover the gift that is Starcraft: Brood War. They will be awed by the simple, archaic interface and as they puzzle over how to play the game it will be inevitable that that video of strange graphical representations with howling, alien language shouting " PLAGUUUU" or "REAVAH REAVAH REAVAH" will be transcoded and understood. Brood War is the future. Not the present. | ||
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PoP
France15446 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:44 Zato-1 wrote: Many aspects of BW are dead already. The proscene is pretty much nonexistent outside of Korea (although many foreign fans still enjoy the proscene in Korea). With old players leaving and no new players arriving to the BW scene (not to mention all the coaches leaving), it's only a matter of time until professional BW as we know it comes to an end. What's your point exactly? You're pretty much stating the obvious here. The real question is about the reason why, and the way these things happened. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On October 13 2010 06:07 Crissaegrim wrote: Just wait, when SC2 has long been forgotten and blizzard and activision are in ashes, SC1 will once again be unearthed. Future generations thousands of years from now will rediscover the gift that is Starcraft: Brood War. They will be awed by the simple, archaic interface and as they puzzle over how to play the game it will be inevitable that that video of strange graphical representations with howling, alien language shouting " PLAGUUUU" or "REAVAH REAVAH REAVAH" will be transcoded and understood. Brood War is the future. Not the present. Activision will never be in ashes, not with Bobby Kotick at the helm. That would imply it died in a blaze of glory; if anything, Kotick would drive all the different brands to the ground in a very un-spectacular way. On October 13 2010 06:12 PoP wrote: What's your point exactly? You're pretty much stating the obvious here. The real question is about the reason why, and the way these things happened. I suppose I am stating the obvious. It's my own solemn epitaph for the game's proscene. It may not be dead quite yet, but it is dead to me. | ||
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Raevin
246 Posts
Just wait, when SC2 has long been forgotten and blizzard and activision are in ashes, SC1 will once again be unearthed. That is wishfull thinking, at best SC1 will be at where War3 is at now, only popular underground How many new players do you think BW can attract nowadays, how many new people do you think are going to start playing on ICCUP? The BW has, for the past few years been a locked hardcore enviourment, only semi exposed in Korea, the rest of the world did not even knew it existed. SC2 has a chance to expand on that and become a game that dosent just take a throne as king of Korea esport but as king of esport around the world. Boxer, Nada, July and even Jaedong has outright said that SC2 can reach hights BW never did. People will never stop loving Starcraft, just like they havent stopped loving Super Mario Brothers or Rocky or Back to the Future, but the world moves forward and unless you move with it, you are left behind | ||
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StarcraftMan
Canada507 Posts
On October 13 2010 06:05 Raevin wrote: Its true, the popularity of the game has been going down, even when SC2 Beta was long to see release Brood War achieved its golden age, that age was when Nada, Boxer, Intotherain, Garimto etc were playing, thats when interest for this game was at its peak. SC2 will hit its own peak and will slowly evaporate, it happens to every game. To think that BW would reach those heights again or even beyond is downright deluded thinking Yeah, I actually agree with you Raevin. [White]Nada talks about people being ignorant, but it is [White]Nada that appears to be ignorant. | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32282 Posts
On October 13 2010 05:27 dazer wrote: I don't know if any of these SC2 haters even played the game yet. Im willing to bet a good amount of money more BW fans tried out SC2 than SC2 players tried out BW. Anyways, your point? | ||
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infinity2k9
United Kingdom2397 Posts
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Prose
Canada314 Posts
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) that want to make a living and you can't want them to stick to losing cause because you like that cause.
