EPTRumors circulating in Korean E-Sports scene - Page 14
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Kazeyonoma
United States2912 Posts
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PandaPolice
Australia86 Posts
Makes perfect sense to take advantage of a budding game that has already guaranteed 3-4 more years of development/balancing/patches/expansions, and developed by the company that made WoW, a long proven track record. (of keeping players on bait with balance/patch/expansion) If SC2 gets to grow to world stage, they will treat it as a bonus. | ||
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san-tokie
Korea (South)185 Posts
None of this really comes as a surprise. | ||
TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On October 13 2010 03:53 [White]NaDa wrote: BW is/was still growing, its potential was unlimited, how can you say that you want it to go to the next level when there is no set level to overcome human ignorance is amazing some times Not really. Spectator attendance at major events was already on a steady decline since well before SC2 was relevant. Even if SC2 hadn't come out, I highly doubt that BW events would be able to match the 100,000+ viewer attendance of 2004-2006. I love BW just as much as the next guy, but to pretend that the scene was still actively growing in any relevant way is silly. | ||
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cocoa_sg
Singapore296 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:09 Zato-1 wrote: Actually, TL can't stay the way it was two years ago. Read the banner at the top of the page: Starcraft Progaming News | Community | Team It's a site about Starcraft, in short. Not just Starcraft: Brood Wars, but Starcraft 2 as well. If Teamliquid waits out until BW dies before fully embracing SC2, by then it will have missed its window of opportunity to become the world's best SC2 site. It's already the world's best BW site (as far as I'm concerned), but staying there without being active in the SC2 scene is simply inviting stagnation and decline. This is a time of transition, and Teamliquid has changed with the times, just as it had to do to continue to be relevant. It's not easy, and it certainly isn't pretty at times- but I'm confident the site is headed in the right direction. Oops, sorry if I said things wrong. I do not mind TL transitioning into both a BW and SC2 pit-stop for all things related, but I just want logical rationality to continue here. From what I had observed the past few months, ever since SC2 beta came out, more and more rude (and new) members started coming in out of the woodwork. And now we have all those quarrels about BW vs SC2 which are totally unnecessary. I just want TL to remain the same as it always was, a central hub of useful information and awesome threads, not a blistering pot of hatred that grows by the day. That being said, SC2 fans, CHILL OUT about BW. We can both co-exist together. Right now though, I still have trouble accepting SC2 as BW's successor if that means the death of BW. I just want the best for both worlds, but unfortunately, Blizzard is... just evil. | ||
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Ghad
Norway2551 Posts
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Garaman
United States556 Posts
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IntoTheWow
is awesome32281 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:32 Ghad wrote: I think the BW esports system seems totally hostile and abusive towards players. Training 12 hours EVERY day, wtf?? Thats slave labour. Well it's borderline and hard to call imo. Like how a swimmer or actually any sportsman would prepare an amount sick of time for a discipline. I mean, they get payed for it as well... | ||
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TheOGBlitzKrieg
United States346 Posts
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seRapH
United States9822 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:32 Ghad wrote: I think the BW esports system seems totally hostile and abusive towards players. Training 12 hours EVERY day, wtf?? Thats slave labour. its not a required 12 hours, nearly every player practices way more than the required amount, which is something like 8 or 9. | ||
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butter
United States785 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:36 IntoTheWow wrote: Well it's borderline and hard to call imo. Like how a swimmer or actually any sportsman would prepare an amount sick of time for a discipline. I mean, they get payed for it as well... Even slaves are housed and fed. | ||
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Zato-1
Chile4253 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:24 cocoa_sg wrote:And now we have all those quarrels about BW vs SC2 which are totally unnecessary (...) I just want the best for both worlds, but unfortunately, Blizzard is... just evil. You aren't helping end the quarrels between BW and SC2 by calling Blizzard evil, you know? :p It's as much a debate between BW and SC2 as it is between KeSPA and Blizzard / Gretech. As to your main point... On October 13 2010 07:24 cocoa_sg wrote:I just want logical rationality to continue here. From what I had observed the past few months, ever since SC2 beta came out, more and more rude (and new) members started coming in out of the woodwork. If you're accountable for your actions in an internet forum, you will either: a. Behave, or b. Eventually get banned. If you're not accountable, you can misbehave and not get banned for it, which is pretty much what you're concerned about. The challenge, then, is to make posters as accountable as possible for what they post. I'm not an expert on that subject, but this was probably a step in the right direction. | ||
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Emon_
3925 Posts
Like the average worker is any better. The SPL seems more like a novelty now. No B-teamers or new players, just the cream of the crop duking it out on weekends. The individual leagues will be epic or weak and free of surprises. The fuck happened here . . . SPL used to be so awesome. | ||
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Tankbusta
United States109 Posts
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ArC_man
United States2798 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:32 Ghad wrote: I think the BW esports system seems totally hostile and abusive towards players. Training 12 hours EVERY day, wtf?? Thats slave labour. It has to do with competition. If the best (Flash/Jaedong) are training 12+ hours a day because they like it and they want to, how could someone inferior to them possibly stand a chance if they only trained 8 hours a day? What are you gonna do, set limits on how long someone can train? | ||
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PandaPolice
Australia86 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:41 seRapH wrote: its not a required 12 hours, nearly every player practices way more than the required amount, which is something like 8 or 9. It's common in Asian culture. If your senior trained for 9 hours, you jolly well put in 9 1/2 hours, and this builds up over time. Also, for the common folk who aren't blessed with superior capabilities, effort and hardwork is the pathway to success, and this amplifies with the competitiveness of each scene. If you remember Nal_ra's Old Boy, you will remember one progammer say "If you want to beat someone who trains for 8 hours, you should at least train for 8 hours" | ||
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maybenexttime
Poland5865 Posts
On October 13 2010 07:40 TheOGBlitzKrieg wrote: oh well new game new start, whole new chapter in starcraft esports You call SC2 esports? It's not worthy of that name. And it doesn't look like it ever will with how blizzard sees "esports". ;; | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
And I also wonder whether or not what Rekrul said about Cho coming back was a troll. | ||
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Pandonetho
Canada321 Posts
Oh well, personally I'm looking forward to seeing how things end up with SC2. I got bored of watching pro BW for a while now. Seems to me like it's just stagnating. People always say the skill ceiling is nonexistent... true, but the human skill cap exists, and I'm pretty sure Flash attained it. Don't think anyone will ever get more legendary than him. Watching him steam roll everyone is not that exciting to me anymore. Although for SC2 itself, I'm worried about it being a spectator sport too. All the spells in that game are so boring, no joke. No swarm, no plague, no OP abilities that are balanced by player skiller/other OP abilities, which is what made BW so exciting for most of its lifespan. | ||
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ShivaN
United States933 Posts
 But I guess it was really all an inevitability with the way they have been handling negotiations.. | ||
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