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SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
October 12 2010 20:09 GMT
#181
Interesting rumors, while I love sc2 and didn't play BW anywhere seriously, I wouldn't want one to succeed if one were to dissapear. Why can't we have both ~_~
VPC
Profile Joined May 2010
United States135 Posts
October 12 2010 20:11 GMT
#182
On October 13 2010 05:03 Ramiel wrote:
This is bad news for all of e-sports. If this is the attitude that blizzard is showing with it's games, killing them off one by one- then what is going to happen when the other expansions come out? The balance is going to be absolutely horrid, yet everyone will switch. What happens when sc3 comes out? or wc4? or any other blizz title? doing this will never make video games a sport. Killing of games before they even reach a prime. All this is doing is making more money.

What a sad way to see e-sports go.... with thunderous applause



HOW IS IT BAD FOR E-SPORTS?

They havent killed shit off. Everyone playing SC2 is playing it because they like to fucking play it. It took 12 years for BW to finally end.

And btw "sad way to see e-sports go? LOL What the hell are you talking about? BW was NEVER crowned "king of esports".
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
October 12 2010 20:13 GMT
#183
On October 13 2010 05:07 TOloseGT wrote:
I'm done talking to you extremist fans. I didn't have any ill-intent while posting my original response, yet you guys are so warped by your hate that you find every little thing to jump at. I still stand by my post that I seriously hope you guys learn to enjoy SC2 in the future, or find a greener pasture on the other side.


ROFL

"Extremist fans"?

Aside from the fact that you're completely ignoring a post I made that was specifically addressed at you to address that point, the notion of an "extremist fan" of BW is hilarious.
dukethegold
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada5645 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 20:16:17
October 12 2010 20:14 GMT
#184
A storm is coming.
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Well, it would suck majorly if all BW A-team players start flowing into GSL within the next couple months.

I want Boxer to win at least one GSL prior to that.
SmoKim
Profile Joined March 2010
Denmark10305 Posts
October 12 2010 20:15 GMT
#185
KT Rolster coach Lee Ji Hoon
IP and public property is important, but... People don't know the biggest hurdle in the negotiations and are just arguing with themselves. I'm not allowed to disclose any information, but when you find out... you will probably be extremely upset... Man...


oh

shit

that part kinda scared me for real
"LOL I have 202 supply right now (3 minutes later)..."LOL NOW I HAVE 220 SUPPLY SUP?!?!?" - Mondragon
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66356 Posts
October 12 2010 20:16 GMT
#186
i give up trying to explain us BW fans' stand because some people are just too thick-skulled and i'd probably get banned.
POGGERS
BlackMagister
Profile Joined October 2008
United States5834 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 20:20:48
October 12 2010 20:17 GMT
#187
On October 13 2010 05:09 Apex wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 05:08 BlackMagister wrote:
Don't really want Sparkyz to merge, but I guess it's for the best. The funny thing is even with these two teams merging they still won't have a good Zerg player, just decent ones because Effort is gone. It's Hogil vs Orion/Hydra.


Well Hite really didn't have that big of a chance ever since most of the other players were caught in that major scandal so I think it would have been best, especially with Leta having to play lone ranger. At least he'd get support from Movie/SkyHigh.

It was fun to watch Sparkyz because they were underdogs. If they did start doing well it would because they got new talent or improved, but now if they get better it's because they merged two teams together. Besides that I like Sparkyz for being an underdog team I liked them for having emotion which it's the stereotype that CJ does not, with the "CJ face -_-" comments. Watching CJ's games and Leta's face whenever he wins reinforces this belief. Leta smiles when he wins!

ALSO I hate one of the CJ fan girls that does the train whistle cheer.
Owompa
Profile Joined April 2009
United States85 Posts
October 12 2010 20:18 GMT
#188
Whenever things were tough in my life I would come home watch some pro scbw and EVERYTHING would be okay. Tried using SC2 for this and its not the same. I am so sad at this.
Bring it!
eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
October 12 2010 20:18 GMT
#189
And this is a shocking revelation to some of you guys that money makes the world go round. Really get used to it. This doesn't shock me in the ONE bit. Because, at the center of almost everything in this world is money.
domane
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
Canada1606 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 20:20:15
October 12 2010 20:19 GMT
#190
On October 13 2010 04:38 sihyunie wrote:
KT Rolster coach Lee Ji Hoon
I'm not allowed to disclose any information, but when you find out... you will probably be extremely upset... Man...
I hope he only means less broadcasts.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 20:23:42
October 12 2010 20:19 GMT
#191
On October 13 2010 05:16 konadora wrote:
i give up trying to explain us BW fans' stand because some people are just too thick-skulled and i'd probably get banned.


SC2 fans don't negotiate with terrorists, anyway.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 12 2010 20:19 GMT
#192
On October 13 2010 05:05 Thurokiir wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 01:58 konadora wrote:
i feel like marching in to blizzard's headquarters right now and grab Mike by the throat, god. fuck this shit.


And tell him what? That conditions on teams were so bad that the moment anyone had an option they immediately left? That coaches abused players to the point where even korean work ethic denied any further playing?

The methodology in which this is handled is wrong, by both sides especially KeSPA but above all we need to think of the players whom in the BW scene were pretty much abused and drained.


Another person who joined in 2010 making shit up. Conditions so bad lol. Did you see Hyungjoon becomes a progamer?
SONE
Profile Joined May 2010
Canada839 Posts
October 12 2010 20:20 GMT
#193
On October 13 2010 05:16 konadora wrote:
i give up trying to explain us BW fans' stand because some people are just too thick-skulled and i'd probably get banned.


I really don't see how people can like SC2 without liking BW at all, or wishes people to just hop over and kill BW.

I'll admit it, I joined TL because of SC2. I never really followed BW at all, I've just heard about it being extremely crazy in Korea and well, I too out of ignorance thought it was absurd the amount of exposure it gets there.

Fast-forward to now, man I love watching BW soo much, I wish I found out how great it was sooner. It's just like those stupid hate threads in sc2 / bw forums, why is it so hard for people to just play what they want and/or enjoy both games and hope they succeed?
MoriyaGXP
Profile Joined September 2010
Korea (South)240 Posts
October 12 2010 20:21 GMT
#194
SC2 will be the new main e-sport


everyone is jumping ship cause of the money.

BW will die... Blizzard has successfully accomplished according to their future plan LOL
Jaedong/Bisu/Tossgirl fan <3
UltraVires
Profile Joined April 2010
United States241 Posts
October 12 2010 20:24 GMT
#195
Don't fight progress! This is more amazing news. First Nada and Boxer, and now everything else is falling into place for SC2 :D
OutlaW-
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Czech Republic5053 Posts
October 12 2010 20:24 GMT
#196
On October 13 2010 05:16 konadora wrote:
i give up trying to explain us BW fans' stand because some people are just too thick-skulled and i'd probably get banned.

With all due respect, sir, to me, an opinonless observer (who loves SC but knows that it's going to die soon anyway, every major evolution starts with a collapse of the old), you are the one being thick-skulled, trying to keep BW alive with your comments on these forums. The logic behind that, I do not understand. There are always people who deny the new, the thing that will become norm, and I see you exactly as that, trying to pull any argument to feel good about winning an internet argument.
The paraolympics picture comes to my mind.
Delete your post underage b&. You're incestuous for you're onee-chan so you're clearly not a bad guy, but others might not agree
Jyvblamo
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada13788 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-12 20:28:53
October 12 2010 20:26 GMT
#197
It speaks volumes when the man that built SCBW has already left for SC2. I think people give too much credit to Blizzard for peeling apart the BW scene, when its very core is crumbling from the inside.

To clarify, the way BW has evolved over the years into a fiercely competitive, cutthroat and unforgiving sport might have facilitated its rapid collapse.
Dazer
Profile Joined September 2010
239 Posts
October 12 2010 20:27 GMT
#198
I don't know if any of these SC2 haters even played the game yet.
dubRa
Profile Joined December 2008
2165 Posts
October 12 2010 20:27 GMT
#199
On October 13 2010 05:11 VPC wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 05:03 Ramiel wrote:
This is bad news for all of e-sports. If this is the attitude that blizzard is showing with it's games, killing them off one by one- then what is going to happen when the other expansions come out? The balance is going to be absolutely horrid, yet everyone will switch. What happens when sc3 comes out? or wc4? or any other blizz title? doing this will never make video games a sport. Killing of games before they even reach a prime. All this is doing is making more money.

What a sad way to see e-sports go.... with thunderous applause



HOW IS IT BAD FOR E-SPORTS?

They havent killed shit off. Everyone playing SC2 is playing it because they like to fucking play it. It took 12 years for BW to finally end.

And btw "sad way to see e-sports go? LOL What the hell are you talking about? BW was NEVER crowned "king of esports".


You need to calm down. BW right now is still the most advanced esport in terms of sponsorship, leagues etc. Please check out the history on the database here on TL or liquipedia and compare it to any other game.

I started following BW in 2007 and I really like SC2. I enjoy watching both and I really wish a healthy SC2 and BW scene could coexist.
infinity2k9
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United Kingdom2397 Posts
October 12 2010 20:27 GMT
#200
On October 13 2010 05:24 OutlaW- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 05:16 konadora wrote:
i give up trying to explain us BW fans' stand because some people are just too thick-skulled and i'd probably get banned.

With all due respect, sir, to me, an opinonless observer (who loves SC but knows that it's going to die soon anyway, every major evolution starts with a collapse of the old), you are the one being thick-skulled, trying to keep BW alive with your comments on these forums. The logic behind that, I do not understand. There are always people who deny the new, the thing that will become norm, and I see you exactly as that, trying to pull any argument to feel good about winning an internet argument.
The paraolympics picture comes to my mind.


Who's trying to 'deny the new'? We just enjoy and prefer BW. It's other people who seem to have some problem with that.
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