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Summarizing the Current KeSPA - Gretech situation - Page 2

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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 07 2010 04:40 GMT
#21
On September 07 2010 13:23 funnybananaman wrote:
This is all blizzards fault.. they're such idiots for giving exclusive rights to their content to GOM and gretech Thanks for the update man. I'm glad theyre boycotting sc2 events and blocking them from being broadcasted on OGN.

To be honest I think this is playing out the way Activision-Blizzard wanted - Acitivision-Blizzard wanted a Korean company to act as their proxy to help them fight against the current pro BW structure and industry players, and Gretech appears to be fighting precisely those targets. I don't think Gretech can win the coming court battle though, or the other battles that might take place soon.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 07 2010 04:41 GMT
#22
On September 07 2010 13:34 konadora wrote:
fuck yeah KeSPA.

Kespa is no saint...
but the lesser of two evils, that's all.
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
bearbuddy
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
3442 Posts
September 07 2010 04:47 GMT
#23
So it all comes down to court rulings?

Geez, what a mess.
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
September 07 2010 04:48 GMT
#24
if Blizzard truly is the company I have always thought they were, this is definitely the time they should step in and say something. it seems to me, that Gretech, and not Blizzard is mostly at fault for this mess.
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Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
September 07 2010 04:49 GMT
#25
Fuck yes. Fuck SC2 and fuck Gretech. Dirty greedy bastards with no respect, just dollar signs imprinted on their eyes. If progame teams boycott SC2 leagues then BW might just live on. Please God, swift justice!
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Royalcommand
Profile Joined September 2008
Korea (South)189 Posts
September 07 2010 04:49 GMT
#26
On September 07 2010 13:41 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 13:34 konadora wrote:
fuck yeah KeSPA.

Kespa is no saint...
but the lesser of two evils, that's all.


but youre still rooting for kespa right? :[
Murderotica
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Vatican City State2594 Posts
September 07 2010 04:50 GMT
#27
On September 07 2010 13:48 Seraphic wrote:
if Blizzard truly is the company I have always thought they were, this is definitely the time they should step in and say something. it seems to me, that Gretech, and not Blizzard is mostly at fault for this mess.

Blizzard is not Blizzard anymore, it's Activision-Blizzard and that's a whole new beast.
ǝsnoɥ ssɐlƃ ɐ uı sǝuoʇs ʍoɹɥʇ ʇ,uop || sıʇɹoɟ ɹǝdɯǝs
Seraphic
Profile Joined September 2010
United States3849 Posts
September 07 2010 04:51 GMT
#28
On September 07 2010 13:50 Murderotica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 13:48 Seraphic wrote:
if Blizzard truly is the company I have always thought they were, this is definitely the time they should step in and say something. it seems to me, that Gretech, and not Blizzard is mostly at fault for this mess.

Blizzard is not Blizzard anymore, it's Activision-Blizzard and that's a whole new beast.


haha that's true I'm saying in general terms of course.
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urashimakt
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1591 Posts
September 07 2010 04:52 GMT
#29
Intellectual property is no joke and BW progamers are in no way necessary for the success of SC2, so I would be afraid for the proleague. :-/
Who dat ninja?
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
September 07 2010 04:54 GMT
#30
On September 07 2010 13:48 Seraphic wrote:
if Blizzard truly is the company I have always thought they were, this is definitely the time they should step in and say something. it seems to me, that Gretech, and not Blizzard is mostly at fault for this mess.

i hope you realize gretech is basically just carrying out blizzard's plans for ESPORTS0.2
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TheMute
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States458 Posts
September 07 2010 04:54 GMT
#31
I will be so freakin' pumped if Kespa wins the lawsuit. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that, but I'm definitely on Proleague's side. What the hell am I gonna do at 2AM from now on?
Friends are simply people you can do/say vulgar things to.
JayDee_
Profile Joined June 2010
548 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:58:17
September 07 2010 04:55 GMT
#32
This is all Kespas fault for not negotiating with Blizzard in the first place. They tried to get something for nothing and now they have to take what they are given. Seems fair to me. Don't forget that they cut GOM out of the picture in the same way they are getting cut out now. It's called Karma.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
September 07 2010 04:55 GMT
#33
On September 07 2010 13:41 Zona wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 07 2010 13:34 konadora wrote:
fuck yeah KeSPA.

Kespa is no saint...
but the lesser of two evils, that's all.

The way I see it, KeSPA kept this thing running and legitimized it by giving it a governing body and ensuring the support of the sponsors. They aren't exactly so bad. They fucked up at times, but kept it going through the years.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
ig0tfish
Profile Joined July 2009
United States345 Posts
September 07 2010 04:55 GMT
#34
Hope kespa dies

User was warned for this post
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
September 07 2010 04:56 GMT
#35
My new sig commenting on a core issue that Activision-Blizzard supporters don't really seem to consider.

"If Activision-Blizzard uses/allows Gretech to kill professional Brood War, how do we know Acitivision-Blizzard won't kill SC2 when they release a new RTS or whenever they feel like it? Especially since with no LAN, SC2's kill-switch is unstoppable."
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
ohN
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States1075 Posts
September 07 2010 04:56 GMT
#36
If gretech kills proleague I will erase everything sc2-related from my mind and avoid it like the plague.
#$&#ing money @#Ing b@##$&*s
LosingID8
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
CA10835 Posts
September 07 2010 04:56 GMT
#37
On September 07 2010 13:52 urashimakt wrote:
Intellectual property is no joke and BW progamers are in no way necessary for the success of SC2, so I would be afraid for the proleague. :-/

you're missing the point.

yeah sure current bw S-class players would bring name value to the sc2 tourneys. however i have no doubt that there will be plenty of future sc2 players that will make a name for themselves.

the bigger issue is that the association of some of korea's largest companies such as KT, SKT, STX, MBC, samsung, etc (lots of influence and $$) are turning against gretech/GSL. if you think that is a small obstacle for gretech to overcome you are very mistaken.
ModeratorResident K-POP Elitist
seRapH
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9816 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-07 04:58:21
September 07 2010 04:57 GMT
#38
On September 07 2010 13:54 TheMute wrote:
I will be so freakin' pumped if Kespa wins the lawsuit. Hopefully it doesn't come down to that, but I'm definitely on Proleague's side. What the hell am I gonna do at 2AM from now on?

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fuck 2AM there isnt a song by them i like. 2PM is alright but again and again is like mediocre at best, i did wrong was meh (which is below mediocre). band names with a time is really what


blizzard is corrupted, there must be a wow quest or sc2 achievement that'll purify it!
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Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
September 07 2010 04:57 GMT
#39
On September 07 2010 13:55 JayDee_ wrote:
This is all Kespas fault for not negotiating with Blizzard in the first place. They tried to get something for nothing and now they have to take what they are given. Seems fair to me.


You have no idea what you're talking about.
sk`
Profile Joined November 2008
Japan442 Posts
September 07 2010 04:58 GMT
#40
I'm going to be this legal battle will be more fun that Proleague or GSL. Go lawyers!
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