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On September 12 2010 04:56 k!llua wrote:Show nested quote +SKT, KT, STX, Woongjin, and "Many others" are forming an "Anti Blizzard" Line. Players under those companies are not allowed to partake in SC2 events. They block OGN from broadcasting the GSL through the board of directors. fuckin' brilliant. another attempt to squash the only league going on in korea with english commentary on-site. can't these spastics drop the wall of china and find some way of doing like a time-share: 3 days of games each, 1 day off for the progamers to go out/have a fap/prepare.
English commentary doesn't mean better, foreign fans should know their place in KeSPA's priorities, they don't give a fuck about you, KeSPA is created for Koreans.
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Well. i didnd like what KESPA did 2 years ago with Gom Classic but what Gretech is doing now is far more dangerous: they basically try to kill BW so that its legacy/passion/teams/players/viewers go for SC 2 and then make money on it.
But this wont work, evem it comes to justice, coz KESPA and SC teams have paid their licenses for their SC copies. In the end it will come to that: how much of PL is Starcraft and how much is the show? And the game is just a platform where the mind athletes fight each other.
Wouldnt be ridicoulous if Adidas or Nike will fight in justice asking banning of the Olympics or World Championship because they invented another shoe and want another competition?
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- KeSPA will be going on with the next season of Proleague, regardless of negotiations.
This makes me very very happy.
Think Ill boycut GOM from now on.
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On September 12 2010 08:43 Phradamon wrote:
Well. i didnd like what KESPA did 2 years ago with Gom Classic but what Gretech is doing now is far more dangerous: they basically try to kill BW so that its legacy/passion/teams/players/viewers go for SC 2 and then make money on it.
But this wont work, evem it comes to justice, coz KESPA and SC teams have paid their licenses for their SC copies. In the end it will come to that: how much of PL is Starcraft and how much is the show? And the game is just a platform where the mind athletes fight each other.
Wouldnt be ridicoulous if Adidas or Nike will fight in justice asking banning of the Olympics or World Championship because they invented another shoe and want another competition?
The athletes could easily use other shoes. I guess Kespa could focus on Counterstrike or something lol.
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this thread is fucking raging.
all these new fucking posters coming via sc2 who don't have respect for the beauty of the game of bw.
there is just so much depth and evolution in the game.
all this bullshit bout how sc2 is a better game... are you fucking serious?
BW is possibly the best game of all time, best RTS of all time without a doubt.
no other RTS has ever lasted this long, and the metagame is just SICK
give respect where its due.
BW CAN compete with sc2 if fucking gretech/acitivsion would allow them. but no, they are just trying to squish BW out.
fuck activision/blizzard.
if they gave those terms to kespa that they offered to gretech, they would gladly have payed whatever fees.
however, kespa is dedicated to keeping the BW scene alive, which blizzard wants no part of.
all you fucking idiots supporting blizzard like blind fanboy will basically be eating your own words when the game you love gets pushed out by blizzard trying to force sc3 down your throats in the future. for blizzard/acitivsion, newer games is ALWAYS better for profits. thye dont give a shit about an old game and its wrong to try to destroy such a great eSports scene out of greed.
Kespa arent the brightest fuckers around but at least they are dedicated to free showings (do you see Kespa charge for OSL finals? i see blizzard try to charge for everything from blizzcon to invitational) or their streams? ppl are able to stream and upload youtube VODS.
can you imagine someone uploading SC2 VODS? im sure they will be crushed by blizzard asap.
yeah
fuck blizzard
fuck activision
fuck gretech
and fuck sc2 proscene.
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On September 13 2010 01:57 Garaman wrote:+ Show Spoiler +this thread is fucking raging.
all these new fucking posters coming via sc2 who don't have respect for the beauty of the game of bw.
there is just so much depth and evolution in the game.
all this bullshit bout how sc2 is a better game... are you fucking serious?
BW is possibly the best game of all time, best RTS of all time without a doubt.
no other RTS has ever lasted this long, and the metagame is just SICK
give respect where its due.
BW CAN compete with sc2 if fucking gretech/acitivsion would allow them. but no, they are just trying to squish BW out.
fuck activision/blizzard.
if they gave those terms to kespa that they offered to gretech, they would gladly have payed whatever fees.
however, kespa is dedicated to keeping the BW scene alive, which blizzard wants no part of.
all you fucking idiots supporting blizzard like blind fanboy will basically be eating your own words when the game you love gets pushed out by blizzard trying to force sc3 down your throats in the future. for blizzard/acitivsion, newer games is ALWAYS better for profits. thye dont give a shit about an old game and its wrong to try to destroy such a great eSports scene out of greed.
Kespa arent the brightest fuckers around but at least they are dedicated to free showings (do you see Kespa charge for OSL finals? i see blizzard try to charge for everything from blizzcon to invitational) or their streams? ppl are able to stream and upload youtube VODS.
can you imagine someone uploading SC2 VODS? im sure they will be crushed by blizzard asap.
yeah
fuck blizzard
fuck activision
fuck gretech
and fuck sc2 proscene.
+1, pretty much sums up my opinion also. Just leave the BW scene alone, please blizzard.
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Won't buy Blizzard products anymore. Doesn't really matter since their game are a bit worse every year... The way they are selling S2 3 time its price by splitting the campaign is also just gross.
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On September 13 2010 02:18 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Won't buy Blizzard products anymore. Doesn't really matter since their game are a bit worse every year... The way they are selling S2 3 time its price by splitting the campaign is also just gross.
Yet, mindless Blizzard fanboy sheeps are buying into it.
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On September 13 2010 02:18 Biff The Understudy wrote:
Won't buy Blizzard products anymore. Doesn't really matter since their game are a bit worse every year... The way they are selling S2 3 time its price by splitting the campaign is also just gross.
Well, to be fair, there also will be an equivalent amount of playtime for 1 sc2 expansion to all of a broodwar expansion or so, and the quality of the missions in the first starcraft 2 (ie creativity of level design) are greater, in my opinion, as are the production quality. So that's kind of silly.
I thought sc2 was good, but blizzard marketing and strategy is always worrying.
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What a clusterfuck  It's such a shame professional gaming has to come down to the money so much, but I guess that's just how the world works. After all that's happened I can't really say I side with KeSPA or Blizzard/Gretech, both sides have exemplified real douchbaggery.
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On September 13 2010 02:51 dudeman001 wrote:What a clusterfuck It's such a shame professional gaming has to come down to the money so much, but I guess that's just how the world works. After all that's happened I can't really say I side with KeSPA or Blizzard/Gretech, both sides have exemplified real douchbaggery.
both sides are evil sides.
however, one side wants to keep BW going and dont care if SC2 keeps going on.
the other side wants BW dead and all the history along with team rivalries with it and just have sc2 continue on.
its a pretty easy choice to make if you are a fan of the game.
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I like the way things are going because if the current state continues = more bw and less cash cow garbage game.
All IMHO ofc.
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On September 13 2010 01:57 Garaman wrote:
this thread is fucking raging.
all these new fucking posters coming via sc2 who don't have respect for the beauty of the game of bw.
there is just so much depth and evolution in the game.
all this bullshit bout how sc2 is a better game... are you fucking serious?
BW is possibly the best game of all time, best RTS of all time without a doubt.
no other RTS has ever lasted this long, and the metagame is just SICK
give respect where its due.
BW CAN compete with sc2 if fucking gretech/acitivsion would allow them. but no, they are just trying to squish BW out.
fuck activision/blizzard.
if they gave those terms to kespa that they offered to gretech, they would gladly have payed whatever fees.
however, kespa is dedicated to keeping the BW scene alive, which blizzard wants no part of.
all you fucking idiots supporting blizzard like blind fanboy will basically be eating your own words when the game you love gets pushed out by blizzard trying to force sc3 down your throats in the future. for blizzard/acitivsion, newer games is ALWAYS better for profits. thye dont give a shit about an old game and its wrong to try to destroy such a great eSports scene out of greed.
Kespa arent the brightest fuckers around but at least they are dedicated to free showings (do you see Kespa charge for OSL finals? i see blizzard try to charge for everything from blizzcon to invitational) or their streams? ppl are able to stream and upload youtube VODS.
can you imagine someone uploading SC2 VODS? im sure they will be crushed by blizzard asap.
yeah
fuck blizzard
fuck activision
fuck gretech
and fuck sc2 proscene.
rage post taking about a rage thread. irony?
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any updates on this situation????
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On September 07 2010 13:07 Amnesia wrote:Show nested quote + KeSPA will be going on with the next season of Proleague, regardless of negotiations. This somewhat puts me at ease.
This was to be expected. I want my court date, so I can watch as Gretech and Blizzard get the short-end of the shaft because there is no way they'll get what they're asking for. ^-^
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Can you guys stop turning this into a SC2 versus BW?
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On September 07 2010 13:05 Milkis wrote:
- SKT, KT, STX, Woongjin, and "Many others" are forming an "Anti Blizzard" Line. Players under those companies are not allowed to partake in SC2 events. They block OGN from broadcasting the GSL through the board of directors. Apparently, they're trying to get all the progame teams to unify.
I've proudly worn my SKT tag ever since I joined Teamliquid. I'm dropping it because of this. I kinda like SKT, but mostly I'm just a big fan of BeSt. Bunkie is pretty cool, too. But Blizzard and its games hold a much bigger place in my heart than a team full of players I don't particularly care for, and which just happens to have my favorite player in the BW scene.
I wish you luck in the following proleagues and starleagues, SKT (provided they continue). But I will not be rooting for you.
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On September 12 2010 08:43 Phradamon wrote:
Well. i didnd like what KESPA did 2 years ago with Gom Classic but what Gretech is doing now is far more dangerous: they basically try to kill BW so that its legacy/passion/teams/players/viewers go for SC 2 and then make money on it.
But this wont work, evem it comes to justice, coz KESPA and SC teams have paid their licenses for their SC copies. In the end it will come to that: how much of PL is Starcraft and how much is the show? And the game is just a platform where the mind athletes fight each other.
Wouldnt be ridicoulous if Adidas or Nike will fight in justice asking banning of the Olympics or World Championship because they invented another shoe and want another competition?
but there isnt only one shoe!
its more like banning the diving board from diving... the whole thing defines the sports.
anyways, the blizzard philosophy seems to be "if it doesnt let us earn money (and costs us!), then kill it".
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I just want to tell a story so that people can sit back and relax and smile a little :
In the land of Koreazeroth there is a mighty kingdom named Esportaeron, which is ruled by a great king named Browarthil Starcaras and his Knights of the Eternal Space. The citizens of this kingdom are often called Browarfans.
The great king has a son, titled Starcaras II, who is destined to succeed his father as the supreme ruler of Esportaeron.
Unfortunately, in a journey to the Northern Western land to kill a demon, the prince ended up finding an ancient artifact - a whispering sword named Gretecmourne- which in turn is controlled by a very powerful being known only by the name of "The Blizz King".
Finally, Prince Starcaras II returned, victorious over the evil he had faced in the Western land. All of Esportaeron rejoiced in festival, celebrating the long-awaited return of their heroic Prince. But something was amiss.
As he knelt before his father, a dark voice flooded Starcaras II's thoughts. He rose up, drew his sword, and approached the throne...
Will the fate of Esportaeron be the same as Lordaeron ? Will the fate of Browarthil Starcaras be the same as Terenas Menethil ? I hope not lol.
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both sides are evil sides.
however, one side wants to keep BW going and dont care if SC2 keeps going on.
the other side wants BW dead and all the history along with team rivalries with it and just have sc2 continue on.
its a pretty easy choice to make if you are a fan of the game.
If i remember correctly , Gretech/blizzard want The two leagues to exist together but at the same time want the Prime time slots scheduled for Proleague.
In the fourth negotiation, KeSPA asks Gretech how much they want. Gretech, rather than answering with an amount, they say they want an "Harmonious operation of both leagues"
Gretech wants Proleague's prime time slots. KeSPA finds this ridiculous.
Kespa says it doesn"t give a fuck about SC2 and thus will pay no heed to any requests.
Gretech gets angry and decides to flex it muscles with Blizzard at ringside ready to file a Lawsuit , which if it does happens , I'm pretty sure will be won by Blizzard.(Come on , it"s their game)
Gretech/Blizzard think the BW Scene has gone on long enough and since they no longer have any profit from it , the best option is to shut it down to eliminate competition.(Blizzard are Partners with Activison BTW ,the most evil gaming company in the World)
So neither side is any good if you ask me.It"s just a battle of egos between blizzard and Kespa that will bring down the BW Scene .(Sad , but it"s the Truth).
Atleast Kespa has a More reasonable point since a 13 year long tradition can"t just be abruptly killed due to a new Product that allows Blizzard to milk money.
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