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Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 16:59 GMT
#21
Konadora = hero! <3

JD does indeed seem a little more scared of Flash than usual. He really shouldn't be though, I think it's a 50:50 situation. JD and Flash will dominate the BW scene until they retire. ^__^
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
ReketSomething
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6012 Posts
August 21 2010 17:11 GMT
#22
On August 22 2010 01:35 DarkMatter_ wrote:
This doesn't sound like the (Z)Jaedong I know. I guess today's losses shook him up a bit, since it sounds like none of the games turned out the way he expected them to (even the wins). He sounds almost intimidated by (T)Flash. When you overhype the opponent so much, you're already putting yourself at a disadvantage psychologically. Hopefully, he regains his confidence before the finals and returns to his usual self.

Also, (Z)Jaedong really needs better practice partners. He's always going to be a disadvantage if he keeps practicing with the likes of (T)Bee and (T)Sexy while (T)Flash gets help/practice from the likes of (Z)EffOrt and (Z)ZerO.


He should ask help from the MBC people!
Jaedong :3
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
August 21 2010 17:15 GMT
#23
On August 22 2010 02:11 ReketSomething wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 01:35 DarkMatter_ wrote:
This doesn't sound like the (Z)Jaedong I know. I guess today's losses shook him up a bit, since it sounds like none of the games turned out the way he expected them to (even the wins). He sounds almost intimidated by (T)Flash. When you overhype the opponent so much, you're already putting yourself at a disadvantage psychologically. Hopefully, he regains his confidence before the finals and returns to his usual self.

Also, (Z)Jaedong really needs better practice partners. He's always going to be a disadvantage if he keeps practicing with the likes of (T)Bee and (T)Sexy while (T)Flash gets help/practice from the likes of (Z)EffOrt and (Z)ZerO.


He should ask help from the MBC people!

Considering that he eliminated both Sea and Light...not sure how willing they're going to be. Maybe he should ask Fantasy for help so he can avenge Fantasy's loss.
KristianJS
Profile Joined October 2009
2107 Posts
August 21 2010 17:18 GMT
#24
JD sounding pretty intimated by Flash :O

Am getting pumped for this final though, reckon this one will be a true epic!
You need to be 100% behind someone before you can stab them in the back
Cpadolf
Profile Joined August 2009
Sweden1199 Posts
August 21 2010 17:21 GMT
#25
On August 22 2010 02:15 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 02:11 ReketSomething wrote:
On August 22 2010 01:35 DarkMatter_ wrote:
This doesn't sound like the (Z)Jaedong I know. I guess today's losses shook him up a bit, since it sounds like none of the games turned out the way he expected them to (even the wins). He sounds almost intimidated by (T)Flash. When you overhype the opponent so much, you're already putting yourself at a disadvantage psychologically. Hopefully, he regains his confidence before the finals and returns to his usual self.

Also, (Z)Jaedong really needs better practice partners. He's always going to be a disadvantage if he keeps practicing with the likes of (T)Bee and (T)Sexy while (T)Flash gets help/practice from the likes of (Z)EffOrt and (Z)ZerO.


He should ask help from the MBC people!

Considering that he eliminated both Sea and Light...not sure how willing they're going to be. Maybe he should ask Fantasy for help so he can avenge Fantasy's loss.


Well, doesn't it feel better if you lost to the winner of the tournament? If Jaedong beats Flash then its like "oh sure I lost to JD but not even Flash could beat him".
Holgerius
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Sweden16951 Posts
August 21 2010 17:23 GMT
#26
I just hope that Flash does not underestimate JD, because JD sure as hell isn't going to underestimate Flash. A loss in WCG would be great.
I believe in the almighty Grötslev! -- I am never serious and you should never believe a thing I say. Including the previous sentence.
DarkMatter_
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada1774 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 17:24:12
August 21 2010 17:23 GMT
#27
Jaedong should just rape Flash with 2 hatch muta on PR. Despite what people say about Flash's defense, I'm still not fully convinced that he can consistently deal with 2 hatch muta builds from a strong zerg player. Almost every single time that Jaedong has gone 2 hatch muta against Flash, he's won. All these fancy late-game oriented strategies are looking less effective each day thanks to a shitty map pool and the lategame mech imba.
Milkis
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
5003 Posts
August 21 2010 17:57 GMT
#28
Oz often practices with WeMade, so i'm sure WeMade Terrans will be helping Jaedong for the finals lol
Savant
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States379 Posts
August 21 2010 18:04 GMT
#29
Maybe it's my Terran paranoia, but I always give Jaedong an edge against Flash. Zerg has all the initiative early in the game, and it's so easy to lose the game from a slip in scouting, timing, micro, or unit comp (as Light found out). Zerg just needs to know when to build sunkens. As a Flash fan I hope he turns the tables and plays extra aggressive early game to keep Jaedong on the defensive where he's not as dangerous.
matjlav
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
Germany2435 Posts
August 21 2010 18:08 GMT
#30
On August 22 2010 02:23 DarkMatter_ wrote:
Jaedong should just rape Flash with 2 hatch muta on PR. Despite what people say about Flash's defense, I'm still not fully convinced that he can consistently deal with 2 hatch muta builds from a strong zerg player. Almost every single time that Jaedong has gone 2 hatch muta against Flash, he's won. All these fancy late-game oriented strategies are looking less effective each day thanks to a shitty map pool and the lategame mech imba.


I agree. Lately, it seems that Zergs never win in a late game scenario unless they get a big advantage early game.

It makes me sad that Jaedong won 3 games with early all-ins, but really, it seems like there's nothing else Zergs can do anymore.

Honestly, Light could have easily won set 5 given that he completely scouted Jaedong's build and his all-in move, but decided that he was just going to completely ignore it rather than just cut SCVs to get a bunker and an E-bay up earlier. The match would have easily been his.
polgas
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada1789 Posts
August 21 2010 18:18 GMT
#31
"▲ I made many errors in the 2nd and 3rd games, and I think Light's late game play was fantastic. At the end of the third set, I did a lot of self-review of the game"

Jaedong in the 3rd game tried a lot of times to shut down the extra expansions but could only bring the CCs down to red. Good thinking to use a Queen in the next game to finish off CCs. I think if he would have won game 3 if he used them.
Leee Jaee Doong
StorrZerg
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States13921 Posts
August 21 2010 18:54 GMT
#32
On August 22 2010 01:32 infinity2k9 wrote:
How is Jaedong so good when he practices with Bee and Sexy.


they team melee vs him
Hwaseung Oz fan for life. Swing out, always swing out.
night terrors
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
China1284 Posts
August 21 2010 19:23 GMT
#33
On August 22 2010 01:28 SubtleArt wrote:
Its ridiculous how far ahead of everyone Jaedong and Flash are.

Also, Jaedong seems to have really improved in TvZ. Taking down light and Sea in Bo5s is quite an achievement with such a horrible map pool

Edit: Btw I think the title should read semifinals B winner


Yes, but this season's semi-finals were much closer than before.

The gap is closing in on them?
Through high and low, bisu boy, through high and low.
Lightwip
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5497 Posts
August 21 2010 19:33 GMT
#34
On August 22 2010 03:54 StorrZerg wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 01:32 infinity2k9 wrote:
How is Jaedong so good when he practices with Bee and Sexy.


they team melee vs him

He should get some better terrans to team melee him.
Baby/Midas or something.
If you are not Bisu, chances are I hate you.
SubtleArt
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
2710 Posts
August 21 2010 19:39 GMT
#35
On August 22 2010 04:23 night terrors wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 22 2010 01:28 SubtleArt wrote:
Its ridiculous how far ahead of everyone Jaedong and Flash are.

Also, Jaedong seems to have really improved in TvZ. Taking down light and Sea in Bo5s is quite an achievement with such a horrible map pool

Edit: Btw I think the title should read semifinals B winner


Yes, but this season's semi-finals were much closer than before.

The gap is closing in on them?


Nope, it was just TvZ...on a series of terribly imbalanced maps....vs a guy who only knows TvZ....and his last 19 games have been TvZ (holy shit).
Morrow on ZvP: "I'm not very confident in general vs Protoss because of the imbalance (Yes its imbalanced, get over it)."
moopie
Profile Joined July 2009
12605 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-08-21 19:57:31
August 21 2010 19:45 GMT
#36
On August 22 2010 01:55 Murderotica wrote:
Poor Light. Light is so fucking good at TvZ, he was so close.

GL JD.

He just needs to work on his TvZ openings (and not skimp on bunkers/repairing scvs) and he will win next time. JD was unable to beat him in a macro game, I hope Light just learns from his early-game mistakes.
I'm going to sleep, let me get some of that carpet.
Deleted User 31060
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
3788 Posts
August 21 2010 19:57 GMT
#37
what a baller

and Jaedong has a personal practice partner named "Sexy".
Peaked at C- on ICCUP and proud of it! @Sunyveil
On_Slaught
Profile Joined August 2008
United States12190 Posts
August 21 2010 20:06 GMT
#38
On August 22 2010 01:32 infinity2k9 wrote:
How is Jaedong so good when he practices with Bee and Sexy.


Beat me to it. I wonder if they ever win.

JD seems motivated this time. Much more than before. Losing the way he did has to make him want to kick ass this time.
FirstProbe
Profile Joined June 2004
1206 Posts
August 21 2010 20:07 GMT
#39
I think Jaedong will prepare aggressive builds like in set 1 and 5, where he can control the flow of the game. Unfortunately while these games are intense, they are often one sided, and short. Flash knows if he can take it to the late game, he stands a good chance of winning.
Yxes2211
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1587 Posts
August 21 2010 20:10 GMT
#40
Man >.< Macro Terran so strong, I think JD's best bet is just to be sick aggressive from the get go >.< God Light showed just how insane T is in the late game, and it makes me worry about this finals D: Come on JD find better practice partners! XD
Jaedong and Baby
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