EPT[News] Prosecutors demand 18 months for Savior - Page 9
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
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Matoo-
Canada1397 Posts
On September 13 2010 22:54 .risingdragoon wrote: A lot of places do that. Counting from the year 0 is a catholic thing. The post I quoted was targeting Asia specifically and apart from Taiwan I've not heard about other asian countries still using non-gregorian calendars. Edit: after some research, using a gregorian calendar doesn't mean you have to set t=0 at the birth of the Christ like I thought. TW is using the gregorian calendar but with an era starting in 1912 for us. And apparently Japan does the same, gregorian calendar but with different eras so yeah TW isn't alone. Interesting stuff, at least I've learned something today. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
On August 20 2010 22:58 JWD wrote: 18 months jail time? For illegal betting? Wow Koreans have different notions of justice than Americans. That seems impossibly harsh to me. No, people are just far too forgiving. If people were punished harshly instead of slapping their wrists, there would be far fewer problems in this world. | ||
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Kal_rA
United States2925 Posts
On September 14 2010 01:22 Numy wrote: No, people are just far too forgiving. If people were punished harshly instead of slapping their wrists, there would be far fewer problems in this world. how is getting banned from esports and full life disgrace a slap on the wrist? especially considering it was done for like only 2-3k this is so wrong.. koreans have too much honor imo. chill out a bit | ||
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hypercube
Hungary2735 Posts
On September 13 2010 10:12 Yotta wrote: Messing with entertainment is huge crime, deserves jail time like the armed robbers and murderers amirite? Who knows what these match-fixers might do if released into society? Simply banning them from e-sports and imposing fines to take back the money they earned illegally is simply not enough for these lowest of criminals. Also lol how's 2011, korea? You realize that people who bet on him were basically cheated out of their money? That's probably not the justification, because the betting was illegal in the first place but if you think this is just about hurt feelings you're mistaken. | ||
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
On September 13 2010 21:43 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote: i grew up in china and visits frequently and i know they use same calender we use in canada. I also been to korea a few times and afaik the hotel+air port + tv uses the same calender. Well, I've been in China for two years and fact is they ALSO have a lunar calendar and it's the only thing I pointed out. | ||
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
On September 13 2010 21:49 nayumi wrote: Lunar calendar is only used for special festivals and shits (Chinese New Year, Mid-Autumn Festival and so on, you name it). In general, all Asian countries still use the normal calendar that the whole world is using. I only said that they have a lunar calendar and that's not contradictory to what you just posted......... | ||
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Rawenkeke
Norway350 Posts
On August 20 2010 23:04 Cofo wrote: Yikes. Good luck breaking out of the contain this time, Savior. lol. boom. | ||
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zhouzhou
Canada138 Posts
You see people that drink and drive only go to jail for short periods or get their license suspended/taken away. Those drunk bitches can KILL other people. Illegal betting amongst a private group of people? Hmm.... The guy's career and reputation has already been taken from him. Throwing him in jail is beating a dead horse. Think about it, you became famous and are well known around your entire country. It doesn't matter where you go now and what you do, a lot of people will frown on you and treat you like shit for the rest of your life. Honestly, justice has already been served. | ||
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CCGaunt
United States417 Posts
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moopie
12605 Posts
![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/dn7me.gif) Story is about to end buddy. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8175 Posts
On September 14 2010 01:22 Numy wrote: No, people are just far too forgiving. If people were punished harshly instead of slapping their wrists, there would be far fewer problems in this world. if ultra repressive policies worked we would know it already. Look around and you'll notice that the only thing repression creates is more violence. Usa have ten time more people in jail than european countries and they are still far more violent and with much higher criminality rate. 18month for a kid who has already broken his life by ding childish stupid thing IS insane. | ||
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.risingdragoon
United States3021 Posts
On September 19 2010 07:29 Biff The Understudy wrote: if ultra repressive policies worked we would know it already. Look around and you'll notice that the only thing repression creates is more violence. Usa have ten time more people in jail than european countries and they are still far more violent and with much higher criminality rate. 18month for a kid who has already broken his life by ding childish stupid thing IS insane. If by repression you mean blatant socio-economic inequality built into the system. USA jail thing is capitalism at work all the way in the government. Taking inmates out of their districts and putting them into predominantly white districts increases the proportional representation for them, and therefore more federal money (and less for the original districts). That's why lotta bible-thumping places want prisons, the bigger walls the better, built in their jurisdiction. Also prison industries providing the amenities like food cloth etc. are big businesses, they have an incentive to keep the prison population at a high level. You're a smart guy, but stick to what you know, leave what you don't know the fuck alone. If you're self-motivated, read up on this. If you're a docile consumer, go watch The Wire. | ||
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Antisocialmunky
United States5912 Posts
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Waxangel
United States33684 Posts
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JIJIyO
Canada1957 Posts
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On September 19 2010 12:57 JIJIyO wrote: Can I get a confirmation about Savior's titles getting taken away from him? Did they literally go to Savior and physically take away his trophies, badges, money (he probably spent it already), etc from him? Or was it just in the sense that he's erased from esports and they don't recognize his previous achievements. I'm thinking it's just the latter, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was both. In that case, would all the second place players technically become the winner of that OSL/MSL? I don't think they have the ability to take the trophies from him. How are they gonna force him, permaban from e-sports? Those objects DO belong to him since Kespa/OGN/MBC gave them to him. | ||
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moopie
12605 Posts
On September 19 2010 12:57 JIJIyO wrote: Can I get a confirmation about Savior's titles getting taken away from him? Did they literally go to Savior and physically take away his trophies, badges, money (he probably spent it already), etc from him? Or was it just in the sense that he's erased from esports and they don't recognize his previous achievements. I'm thinking it's just the latter, but I wouldn't be surprised if it was both. In that case, would all the second place players technically become the winner of that OSL/MSL? Money stays, titles go away. And no, the 2nd runners up aren't SL winners. Look at the OSL tribute video for example, Savior was still listed in the text as having won it, but he was cut from the entire video tribute, and during the Shinhan 3 OSL credits they just showed nada on the stage (who took 2nd place). I doubt they would physically take away the trophies, but yeah their glory is now blackened. | ||
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
On September 19 2010 09:16 .risingdragoon wrote: If by repression you mean blatant socio-economic inequality built into the system. USA jail thing is capitalism at work all the way in the government. Taking inmates out of their districts and putting them into predominantly white districts increases the proportional representation for them, and therefore more federal money (and less for the original districts). That's why lotta bible-thumping places want prisons, the bigger walls the better, built in their jurisdiction. Also prison industries providing the amenities like food cloth etc. are big businesses, they have an incentive to keep the prison population at a high level. You're a smart guy, but stick to what you know, leave what you don't know the fuck alone. If you're self-motivated, read up on this. If you're a docile consumer, go watch The Wire. So you are saying, that keeping loads of people in prison is because of capitalism? Well of course it's got a lot to do with capitalism as you point out and to do with the gap between rich and poor. Now I'm just waiting for you to explain 'Why' America has a MUCH high crime rate, especially in regards to guns and violence in comparison with other countries. I thought Bif made a good point, although there was no need to take a snipe at the American system. | ||
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
On September 19 2010 07:29 Biff The Understudy wrote: if ultra repressive policies worked we would know it already. Look around and you'll notice that the only thing repression creates is more violence. Usa have ten time more people in jail than european countries and they are still far more violent and with much higher criminality rate. 18month for a kid who has already broken his life by ding childish stupid thing IS insane. The system in China is ultra repressive as you post and they kill loads of people, but they actually post really good figures in regards to crime rate, except for some places in the south. This is despite them being a capitalist country with a huge gap in wealth. I'm sure crime and crime rates is strongly culturally related as well. You cannot just blame the system, if they for example in America implemented a really really leniant policy towards, do you really think the crime rate would fall drastically? I don't. | ||
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