EPT[News] Prosecutors demand 18 months for Savior - Page 10
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Deathstar
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kineSiS-
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Mastermind
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
On September 19 2010 15:57 Boonbag wrote: To put pro gamers in Jail is like throwing a bunch of wounded rabbits in a pool full of squalls yes? no? | ||
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
On September 19 2010 15:06 Lightwip wrote: Honestly, I think something like $20k fine and 1 year ban is harsh enough. This lot are adults and they know what they were getting into and they damaged the image of something I like a lot. They need to do jail time for this, you can't turn a blind eye to corruption and criminal activity. | ||
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dinmsab
Malaysia2246 Posts
On September 19 2010 16:43 Evil_Monkey_ wrote: This lot are adults and they know what they were getting into and they damaged the image of something I like a lot. They need to do jail time for this, you can't turn a blind eye to corruption and criminal activity. Savior's true crime: Destroying the the hearts of korean fangirls. Truly unforgivable! | ||
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Lightwip
United States5497 Posts
On September 19 2010 16:43 Evil_Monkey_ wrote: This lot are adults and they know what they were getting into and they damaged the image of something I like a lot. They need to do jail time for this, you can't turn a blind eye to corruption and criminal activity. No matter how bad that is, it's not a crime. They can't be punished for that. They were involved in fraud and illegal gambling and such, that's all they need to be punished for. | ||
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CursOr
United States6335 Posts
Read the mans story about prison here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=136858 I understand US and Korean penal systems are probably quite different. But 18 months is a LONG time. It was far different than I ever imagined it and it changes you for life. Even if you are only in for a short time. People who haven't been locked up throw around terms like months and years with no concept of what they actually mean. I would support fines and MAYBE a token sentence like 30 days in what amounts over there to county Jail. His crimes were non violent and he was very young. Be interesting to see what happens. | ||
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aimaimaim
Philippines2167 Posts
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Apexplayer
United States406 Posts
On August 20 2010 23:04 Cofo wrote: Yikes. Good luck breaking out of the contain this time, Savior. Funniest thing ever | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8176 Posts
On September 19 2010 09:16 .risingdragoon wrote: If by repression you mean blatant socio-economic inequality built into the system. USA jail thing is capitalism at work all the way in the government. Taking inmates out of their districts and putting them into predominantly white districts increases the proportional representation for them, and therefore more federal money (and less for the original districts). That's why lotta bible-thumping places want prisons, the bigger walls the better, built in their jurisdiction. Also prison industries providing the amenities like food cloth etc. are big businesses, they have an incentive to keep the prison population at a high level. You're a smart guy, but stick to what you know, leave what you don't know the fuck alone. If you're self-motivated, read up on this. If you're a docile consumer, go watch The Wire. I fail to see where what you say contradict what I said. From what I know, the core reason why US have so many prisonners and so such repressive policies is that their prison are in a large part profit making activities of groups which spend millions dollars in lobbying / propaganda: http://prisonvalley.arte.tv/?lang=en (not for the docile brainless consumer) and I don't know the Wire. Now on topic, this idea that very harsh justice system reduces criminality is as simplist as thinking that death penalty reduces the amount of murder. We know since XIXth century that it is bullcrap. The fact is that by jailing people for long time for almost no reason, you create future criminals. Criminlaity is a social problem. You can't solve it with the stick only. And the bigger stick doesn't solve the problem better. That's all what I was saying. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France8176 Posts
On September 19 2010 13:35 Evil_Monkey_ wrote: The system in China is ultra repressive as you post and they kill loads of people, but they actually post really good figures in regards to crime rate, except for some places in the south. This is despite them being a capitalist country with a huge gap in wealth. I'm sure crime and crime rates is strongly culturally related as well. You cannot just blame the system, if they for example in America implemented a really really leniant policy towards, do you really think the crime rate would fall drastically? I don't. Nop, but I am siure for example that when in 81 France supressed death penalty, the murder rate did not increase. Now, what I am saying is that it's not by being incredibly severe that you reduce your crimionality, and that too harsh justice is absolutely counter productive. I perfectly know that the problem of criminality has many factors and can't be reduced the repressiveness of the State. | ||
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vectorix108
United States4633 Posts
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Evil_Monkey_
Denmark296 Posts
On September 19 2010 17:18 Lightwip wrote: No matter how bad that is, it's not a crime. They can't be punished for that. They were involved in fraud and illegal gambling and such, that's all they need to be punished for. They are adults and are accountable for their own acts and under contract as well. Their acts have brought irreparable damage to their teams and their industry costing people lots of money. For example, ex-Chelsea player Adrian Mutu was sued by the club for doing heroin and Chelsea won. This is on a smaller scale but what they did was completely and utterly wrong and the principal is the same. | ||
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some_noob
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vx70GTOJudgexv
United States3161 Posts
On September 19 2010 07:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:18month for a kid who has already broken his life by ding childish stupid thing IS insane. Yes, because illegal gambling and rigging professional matches where sponsors pour millions of dollars into the competition and tampering with such things to turn a profit is childish... Look, I want to believe Savior is innocent, but saying that this was a childish mistake is just cutting him way too much slack. | ||
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ShadeR
Australia7535 Posts
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Boonbag
France3318 Posts
Korean jails galbi good ?? I mean come on they're nerds | ||
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