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Jerebread
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada115 Posts
September 20 2010 05:37 GMT
#221
On September 20 2010 03:55 ilbh wrote:
does he keep the money? I'm curious now... because 18 months in prison for 1+ million dollars is not that bad LOL


Are you retarded? What do you think a criminal record means for the rest of your life?

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Evil_Monkey_
Profile Joined May 2003
Denmark296 Posts
September 20 2010 06:06 GMT
#222
On September 20 2010 14:37 Jerebread wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 03:55 ilbh wrote:
does he keep the money? I'm curious now... because 18 months in prison for 1+ million dollars is not that bad LOL


Are you retarded? What do you think a criminal record means for the rest of your life?

The Canadian and Korean systems aren't the same bud and a million dollars (I don't think he made that much) would be enough to live off for a very very very long time in Korea. You automatically assume that Savior would never be able to get a job or anything when it's not really the case at all.
........
hypercube
Profile Joined April 2010
Hungary2735 Posts
September 20 2010 08:24 GMT
#223
On September 20 2010 02:46 Rekrul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2010 02:36 Biff The Understudy wrote:
On September 19 2010 20:37 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:
On September 19 2010 07:29 Biff The Understudy wrote:18month for a kid who has already broken his life by ding childish stupid thing IS insane.


Yes, because illegal gambling and rigging professional matches where sponsors pour millions of dollars into the competition and tampering with such things to turn a profit is childish...

Look, I want to believe Savior is innocent, but saying that this was a childish mistake is just cutting him way too much slack.

Nah, the point is that Savior's crime was about a couple of thousand dollars. And that Savior is clearly a nerd who has left childhood only to go to video game playing 14 hours a day, and that you can't expect the result to be brilliant in terms of maturity.

The kid has done something really stupid, broken his career, lost his reputation. I don't really see who will benefot him going a year and a half in jail and getting raped in this ass everyday by real tough gangster. That seems a bit overkill.


his crime was over a million $ but ok.


I'd hope someone tells the full story sometime. It's so frustrating to know that we're missing most of it.
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zhouzhou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada138 Posts
September 21 2010 02:31 GMT
#224
I think people are confusing won with $. A million won is only ~$1k. I highly doubt savior caused millions of dollars worth of damage. 1st place of the OSL, which is the most prestigious league, is only granted $40k. He was only making ~$1k throwing games among a private group of people. Not as significant as most people think. And certainly not worth 18 months in jail.
Dfgj
Profile Joined May 2008
Singapore5922 Posts
September 21 2010 02:40 GMT
#225
You can't use 'he plays games all day' to reclassify adults as kids, especially not in the case of someone who isn't a B-teamer sitting in the house all day every day.

He almost certainly (or a reasonable person in his position) could understand the implications on esports from his actions, and understood that both he and the people he pulled into it were engaging in illegal activity, the effects of which could be quite far-reaching for other professionals in the esports field.

18 months is harsh but not insane.
ionlyplayPROtoss
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada573 Posts
September 21 2010 02:58 GMT
#226
I also think he can probably get out in like 9 month for good behavior since it is first offense.
SoJu.WeRRa
Profile Joined June 2010
Korea (South)820 Posts
September 21 2010 03:15 GMT
#227
Poor sAviOr
나를 찢어갈겨이씨발놈아왜나를미치게만들어니가뭘아는데?
GoodRamen
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States713 Posts
September 21 2010 03:16 GMT
#228
On September 21 2010 11:58 ionlyplayPROtoss wrote:
I also think he can probably get out in like 9 month for good behavior since it is first offense.


does the korean legal system work that way to???
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
September 21 2010 04:01 GMT
#229
On September 21 2010 11:31 zhouzhou wrote:
I think people are confusing won with $. A million won is only ~$1k. I highly doubt savior caused millions of dollars worth of damage. 1st place of the OSL, which is the most prestigious league, is only granted $40k. He was only making ~$1k throwing games among a private group of people. Not as significant as most people think. And certainly not worth 18 months in jail.

It's Rekrul who said that <_< He doesn't confuse those
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zhouzhou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada138 Posts
October 02 2010 16:44 GMT
#230
So, the trial on Oct.1 should've taken place now. Anyone know Korean to translate this:

그리고... 2010년 10월 1일 오전 11시에 열린 6차 공판에서 마재윤은 불법 배팅에는 직접 참여한 사실이 없어 심문이 생략됐다! 각종 커뮤니티에서는 역시 본좌님은 망해가는 스타판에 마지막 불꽃을 터트려주신다며 찬양을 빙자한 폭풍까임을 작렬시키고 있다.

It's from http://mirror.enha.kr/wiki/마재윤
pR0gR4m3R
Profile Joined February 2008
Spain1446 Posts
October 02 2010 16:49 GMT
#231
On October 03 2010 01:44 zhouzhou wrote:
So, the trial on Oct.1 should've taken place now. Anyone know Korean to translate this:

그리고... 2010년 10월 1일 오전 11시에 열린 6차 공판에서 마재윤은 불법 배팅에는 직접 참여한 사실이 없어 심문이 생략됐다! 각종 커뮤니티에서는 역시 본좌님은 망해가는 스타판에 마지막 불꽃을 터트려주신다며 찬양을 빙자한 폭풍까임을 작렬시키고 있다.

It's from http://mirror.enha.kr/wiki/마재윤


Yesterday I was checking fomos.kr about this, and seems like its been delayed until 6th Oct
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zhouzhou
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Canada138 Posts
October 07 2010 18:40 GMT
#232
Thanks man. Any update now?
Wala.Revolution
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
7584 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-10-07 19:00:18
October 07 2010 18:54 GMT
#233
I have limited knowledge of Korean law terms.

스타크래프트 경기 승부조작 사건이 7차 공판을 마지막으로 변론을 종결하고 최종 선고만을 앞두게 됐다.

서울중앙지방법원 형사 22부는 7일 오후 5시 서관 법정에서 스타크래프트 경기 승부조작 사건으로 적발된 피고인들에 대한 7차 공판을 진행했다.

이날 공판에서는 지난 1일 6차 공판에서 피고인들의 사기 범죄 관련한 심문에 따른 조서 변경이 고지됐고, 각 도박 사이트 별로 피고인들의 베팅액 측정이 힘들고 금액이 명확하지 않은 부분을 송금액과 배당금을 토대로 수정해 조서에 반영했다.

마지막으로 검사 측은 지난 8월 20일 5차 공판에서 피고인들에게 구형한 형량을 유지한 채 공판을 종결지었고, 재판부는 오는 10월 22일 오전 10시 같은 법정에서 피고인 8명에 대한 최종 형량을 선고한다고 밝혔다.

이에 재판부는 오는 10월 22일 오전 10시 피고인 8명에 대해 최종 형량을 선고할 예정이다.

▶ 스타크래프트 경기 승부조작 사건 공판 일지
◆ 1차 공판 - 6월 4일 오전 11시
브로커 박모씨(구속) - 공갈 혐의 부인
프로게이머 원모씨(변호사 선임) - 혐의 인정
프로게이머 마모씨 - 혐의 일부 부인
축구선수 정모씨 - 혐의 일부 부인
은행원 박모씨 - 혐의 인정
전직 프로게이머 정모씨 - 혐의 인정
전직 프로게이머 최모씨 - 혐의 인정
자영업 이모씨 - 혐의 인정
◆ 2차 공판 - 6월 24일 오후 2시
브로커 박모씨(구속) - 공갈 혐의 부인으로 인한 증인 심문
프로게이머 원모씨(변호사 선임) - 혐의 인정
프로게이머 마모씨(변호사 선임) - 종전 일부 혐의 부인에서 혐의 인정으로 입장 선회
축구선수 정모씨(변호사 선임) - 혐의 일부 부인
프로게이머 박모씨 - 승부조작 가담 경위, 조작 방법 등 진술
프로게이머 박모씨 - 승부조작 가담 경위, 조작 방법 등 진술
◆ 3차 공판 - 7월 7일 오후 5시
축구선수 정모씨(변호사 선임) - 승부조작에 적극 가담하지 않았음을 주장
프로게이머 진모씨 - 승부조작 가담 경위, 조작 방법 등 진술
◆ 4차 공판 - 7월 22일 오후 4시
브로커 박모씨(구속) - 원모씨가 승부조작 주도했다 주장
프로게이머 원모씨 - 박모씨가 승부조작 주도했다 주장
축구선수 정모씨 - 마모씨와 협의해 1건 승부조작 진행 진술
프로게이머 마모씨 - 정모씨, 원모씨 등과 4건(1건은 상대 거절로 무산)의 승부조작 진행 진술
◆ 5차 공판 - 8월 20일 오후 3시
브로커 박모씨(구속) - 징역 2년 구형
프로게이머 원모씨 - 징역 2년, 추징금 300만원 구형
프로게이머 마모씨 - 징역 1년 6개월 구형
축구선수 정모씨 - 징역 1년 6개월 구형
은행원 박모씨 - 징역 1년 구형
전직 프로게이머 정모씨 - 징역 1년 구형
전직 프로게이머 최모씨 - 징역 1년 구형
자영업 이모씨 - 징역 1년 구형
◆ 6차 공판 - 10월 1일 오전 11시(변론 속개)
브로커 박모씨(구속) - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
프로게이머 원모씨 - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
프로게이머 마모씨 - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
축구선수 정모씨 - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
은행원 박모씨 - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
전직 프로게이머 정모씨 - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
전직 프로게이머 최모씨 - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
자영업 이모씨 - 증거 조사 및 본인 심문→혐의 사실 모두 인정
◆ 7차 공판 - 10월 7일 오후 5시
브로커 박모씨(구속) - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정
프로게이머 원모씨 - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정
프로게이머 마모씨 - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정
축구선수 정모씨 - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정
은행원 박모씨 - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정
전직 프로게이머 정모씨 - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정
전직 프로게이머 최모씨 - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정
자영업 이모씨 - 사기 혐의 범죄 관련 조서 수정

Summary: 7th and the final part of the trial ended (with summations), all the remains is sentencing which will be on the 22nd at 10AM.

EDIT various things happened in the parts (accusing someone else, denying charges, etc, but in part 6 it says they admitted to all charges and 7, allocuted?
Stuck.
Ryo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
8787 Posts
October 07 2010 19:58 GMT
#234
Despite all that he's done, I do miss Savior. Sigh.
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r3z3nd3
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Brazil522 Posts
October 07 2010 20:11 GMT
#235
Looking forward to know what will happen next. Will come back here in the 22. Thanks for all the translations and sources.
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chris0809
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
United States28 Posts
October 21 2010 23:18 GMT
#236
any time now, huh?
mustaju
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Estonia4505 Posts
October 21 2010 23:28 GMT
#237
Compared to the huge black hole surrounding the current progaming circuit, the matchfixing scandal feels almost irrelevant now.
Goddamnit, why did every one of those guys have to be so stupid.
I know they are not getting payed all that much but they sure as hell don't need more trouble for themselves for measly money.
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OpticalShot
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
Canada6330 Posts
October 22 2010 02:32 GMT
#238
On October 03 2010 01:44 zhouzhou wrote:
So, the trial on Oct.1 should've taken place now. Anyone know Korean to translate this:

그리고... 2010년 10월 1일 오전 11시에 열린 6차 공판에서 마재윤은 불법 배팅에는 직접 참여한 사실이 없어 심문이 생략됐다! 각종 커뮤니티에서는 역시 본좌님은 망해가는 스타판에 마지막 불꽃을 터트려주신다며 찬양을 빙자한 폭풍까임을 작렬시키고 있다.

It's from http://mirror.enha.kr/wiki/마재윤

That was an awesome read. Thanks for providing the link.

"...and in the 6th trial held in 11AM of Oct. 1st, 2010, Savior's hearing of the illegal betting case was omitted due lack of proofs. Many communities are mocking this, saying that Savior is setting off the last fireworks in the dying SCBW scene."

I tried my best x_x I'm not that familiar with legal terms.
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KingFool
Profile Joined January 2008
Canada428 Posts
October 22 2010 03:24 GMT
#239
Wasn't a good part of the case based on him. Sounds like nothing will come of any of this.
Stimin myself on a daily basis
King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
October 22 2010 03:32 GMT
#240
My feelings are mixed.
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