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On August 22 2010 21:03 sixfour wrote: anyone want to see a justin/savior special match at the next proleague allstars, winner gets 2 months reduction of jail time?
lets bet on that game we can be sure its legit
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over 18 or not, they are all pretty much kids. It's unfortunate, wish this never happened =/
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These guys are screwed. I mean look at Nal_rA, they dedicate so much of their lives to gaming that their socially awkward home ALONE!
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On August 22 2010 22:29 ShadeR wrote: These guys are screwed. I mean look at Nal_rA, they dedicate so much of their lives to gaming that their socially awkward home ALONE! How exactly do you know anything about what they're like 'home alone'? By how they act in front of a camera for a TV show? There's some difference between how people naturally are, and how they are when put on the spot in such a situation.
While no doubt a great number are awkward, this is a ridiculous statement to make.
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Was sitting 3 seats across from sAviOr (he looks like Jaedong IRL) in a PC Bang today -_______- He seemed pretty chill playing wc3 anime hero arena and sc (as protoss) Was gonna be a total fanboy but then I came to this OP. TT___TT Felt so bad for him, having only 2 weeks before a jail sentence hearing.
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On August 20 2010 23:28 NuKedUFirst wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 23:19 illu wrote: I think 2 years is really not that harsh, considering the massive amount of profit they gained (illegally). SAvior only got like 3K$ US? What about Hwasin and the 2 brothers? :o Seems a little harsh in my opinion but I guess they are made an example of. Savior made around 2m won, that's around 1700$
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Wow. Going to jail eh? Guess he gets what he deserves.
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Anything longer than a few months is ridiculously harsh.
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I think they've been punished enough, with their career ruined and all.
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On August 22 2010 21:07 Mykill wrote:Show nested quote +On August 22 2010 21:03 sixfour wrote: anyone want to see a justin/savior special match at the next proleague allstars, winner gets 2 months reduction of jail time? lets bet on that game we can be sure its legit 
How can you be sure... one could lose and get additional jail time if paid say.... 3 million won? : P
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On August 23 2010 01:30 ProoM wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 23:28 NuKedUFirst wrote:On August 20 2010 23:19 illu wrote: I think 2 years is really not that harsh, considering the massive amount of profit they gained (illegally). SAvior only got like 3K$ US? What about Hwasin and the 2 brothers? :o Seems a little harsh in my opinion but I guess they are made an example of. Savior made around 2m won, that's around 1700$ ProoM do you have a link to this?
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On August 20 2010 22:58 JWD wrote: 18 months jail time? For illegal betting? Wow Koreans have different notions of justice than Americans. That seems impossibly harsh to me.
If i think about how much money was lost by some and illegally won by some(includin savior) because of savior this seems lucky for him. i expected AT LEAST 24 month.
EDIT: remember guys: dont just look at the money savior won, but also at all the money from others, which was lost/won.
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Korea (South)17174 Posts
i think justice has already been served
jail time is pretty crazy here
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On August 23 2010 03:59 MasterReY wrote:Show nested quote +On August 20 2010 22:58 JWD wrote: 18 months jail time? For illegal betting? Wow Koreans have different notions of justice than Americans. That seems impossibly harsh to me. If i think about how much money was lost by some and illegally won by some(includin savior) because of savior this seems lucky for him. i expected AT LEAST 24 month. EDIT: remember guys: dont just look at the money savior won, but also at all the money from others, which was lost/won. But if Savior didn't get very much from this then it wouldn't have been for money. So why would he do it. That's the question we should be asking if that's correct. That's the one that counts.
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i dont understand you guys
400$ stolen =felony in USA
and this is 1 1/2 years?
please.
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Korea (South)9498 Posts
The sentence may seem harsh but here are things to consider:
a) This is not the final sentence, its what the prosecutors want. So, in a situation like this you always go high, and then settle for less. For example, if you're gonna sue someone you sue them for the highest feasible amount knowing that you won't get that, but the range in which they are willing to settle is much higher. We'll see what the final verdict is.
b) They (the match fixers) completely destroyed a lot of the trust in the pro-gamers, pro gaming, etc. it hurt the fans, sponsors, other pro-gamers, etc. A lot of you are saying the initial sentencing seems harsh, but consider this, the match-fixing scandal could've put an end to pro-gaming. It wouldn't be fair to the hundreds of kids who have sacrificed their lives, education, etc. to make it as a pro just to have the opportunity taken away from them because a few players got greedy. The potential damage from this scandal could've been HUGE, and there was a lot of fear that progaming would come to an end because of this. A lot of people outside of Korea think its completely socially-accepted to be progamers in Korea, but its really not. It's still hard, and they've made major strides towards legitimizing progaming and thats why it has become so viable, and the match-fixing scandal could've negated all of it.
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So, how much did savior really earn to get a suggested 18 months ? I mean it cant be what some ppl here write, 3k usd or 1.7k usd... thats just too little money to get suggested over a year in prison for.
And that ppl say its cuz of how much dmg it made to the game reputation is just a joke, wtf has that got to do with how much jailtime he should have. Who cares how much it hurt the fans? Then every scandal would probably end up 40+ years jailtime for pro fotball players cuz the millions of fans gets hurt?
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If it's really being said that Ma Jae Yoon only earned a few K, then we've definitely not dug down to the bottom of the issue.
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On August 23 2010 04:02 Rekrul wrote: i think justice has already been served
jail time is pretty crazy here
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