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So no fek
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3001 Posts
July 18 2010 03:55 GMT
#41
On July 18 2010 09:00 Vanka wrote:
Hyuk lost because of the build orders at that particular close positions on Judgement Day. If he wasn't scouted first, or if he was in any other spot on the map, the match could gone entirely differently.


Yeah, he probably would have won. I don't think either player played all that well. There were quite a few tense moments, and it definitely could have gone either way.... for the first few waves, until Hyuk decided he didn't need anything past Zerglings and a spore or two when your opponent has mutalisks. He even stopped mining gas entirely. Granted he probably didn't have many drones (I don't recall), but it was still a 'wtf' moment. As I said, he came close to overwhelming Hydra with his first few zergling attacks, but to continue with that strategy was just terrible.
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rockon1215
Profile Joined May 2009
United States612 Posts
July 18 2010 03:58 GMT
#42
CJ just got the better matchups. Simple as that. And plenty of people can outmacro Best
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supernovamaniac
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States3047 Posts
July 18 2010 03:59 GMT
#43
On July 18 2010 12:46 Turbovolver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 18 2010 00:48 supernovamaniac wrote:
Movie, on the other hand, showed us that he's a fluke once again. Now I'm starting to doubt myself if it was Movie that actually made it to OSL finals and actually won a match against Flash in set 3. Sure, there was the BO advantage by Best, but Movie tried to out-macro Best. Seriously, no offense, but why would you do this? Best is known to Koreans as Do-Mul-Yang (mulyang meaning quantity), and you try to out-macro him. Please reconsider next time.

He had two bases, and sort of a third. Any progamer-level player can macro properly from 2.5 bases unless being severly harassed. Yes, Best is famous for his macro, but even if you assume it was of a consistently higher standard than Movie's in that game, "Trying to outmacro Best" is an awfully misleading and uninsightful comment.

Tell that to every single Korean viewers and commentators, as well as the players. Because in the end, I took that line from MBC Game commentator.
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Turbovolver
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
Australia2394 Posts
July 18 2010 04:29 GMT
#44
On July 18 2010 12:59 supernovamaniac wrote:
Tell that to every single Korean viewers and commentators, as well as the players. Because in the end, I took that line from MBC Game commentator.

lol

So, the commentators are playing up on Best's reputation. There is also the argument that once Movie ended up so behind with his disastrous early game, playing the game straight-up as he did was "trying to outmacro Best", except more like "trying to outmacro a player in a better economic position than you". Indeed, that might have been a mistake.

Either way, I think it's undeniable the "highlight" of that game was Movie's disastrous attack. It wasn't just "both sides macro, Best macros better, Best wins" at all.
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blahman3344
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2015 Posts
July 18 2010 05:00 GMT
#45
lol, i love how the results of last night were the opposite of what i predicted in my blog ^^;

Indeed, it was smart of CJ to pressure early by sending out their key players, as the early win put pressure on SKT. SKT definitely made a good decision to send Bisu and Best out earlier on, as it was a good attempt to counter the mood set by CJ, although i thought that Bisu's and Best's sets should have been consecutive, as to put a little counter-pressure on CJ.

Last night I predicted after the 4th set, that Hyuk and Fantasy would easily take their games if they played cautiously and didn't do anything too risky. I didn't bother watching Fantasy vs Skyhigh, as i was dead tired, and could barely keep my eyes open during that match, but I felt that Hyuk played just a little too greedily by going 12hatch in base.
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Kashll
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States1117 Posts
July 18 2010 11:35 GMT
#46
On July 18 2010 02:50 Pyrrhuloxia wrote:
I think Iris was outclassed all game long. Sucks, cause I was rooting for him. I wasn't watching too closely to that one, though.


Nah I liked iris' position early and mid game. He just fucked up really bad late game, never got a good emp off, never got a 4th etc.
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