Why CJ Entus Will Win the Proleague - Page 7

On July 15 2010 10:42 King K. Rool wrote:
Iris vs Bisu rematch plz.

On July 15 2010 08:57 dukethegold wrote:


That record is NOT a good indication of Bisu's current PvP form. The losses prior to Bisu v.s. Pusan occurred during the period of Bisu's slump.

And Bisu v.s. Tempest serves as a horrible example. Tempest had the biggest BO advantage possible over Bisu. Not to mention that it was likely that Bisu was sent on the fourth set to fight against Flash, not Tempest.

Although Bisu's loss to Pusan is inexcusable as Pusan simply outplayed Bisu at that time, let us keep in mind that Pusan was on a four PL game streak against Free, Movie, Really and Bisu. So Pusan is not horrible. In addition, Best showed an absolutely beautiful PvP game this week against Kal and Best claimed he is 50/50 against Bisu in practice.

On July 16 2010 00:25 tryTRY wrote:
skt has better coaches imo

On July 16 2010 00:32 QuickStriker wrote:
Just you wait, one of us SKT1 fans will make a better and more brilliant reasoning thread than this one to prove you all wrong. Go SKT1!!!!



I agree, remember this new T1 Zerg coach and how he pulled all these T1 zergs players from ugly to bad to good? :D

On July 15 2010 02:25 renzy wrote:


You have a damn T1 banner. And no, I don't believe CJ will even make it out of the first round. Why? They're facing SKT, with a almost 100% Bisu who beat Jaedong two weeks ago.

On July 16 2010 01:00 eNyoron wrote:
EffOrt is pretty much a guaranteed Win for CJ, unless Bisu's PvZ returns in full form. Although their record is currently 3-0, those matches were at a point in time where Bisu was playing extremely well and EffOrt was still a Rookie. Bisu's still recovering from his slump whereas EffOrt has been playing solidly (though moreso in the individual leagues than the proleague). Best, while a great player, will probably fall to EffOrt's monster ZvP.

Fantasy's TvZ is his weakest matchup, and his playstyle is what EffOrt excels the most against. While the EffOrt of 2009 struggled with mech play, his current multitasking and map domination ability will trounce mech play. If they do play each other, the game will go down like this: Fantasy will do a quirky build off of two base, possibly doing some econ damage in the process. EffOrt will curtail the damage and slowly work his way up to 4-5 base. Fantasy will try to expo but be unable to hold (depending on the map), and eventually settle for a massive 200 supply ball Push. EffOrt will either: overrun every expo of Fantasy with ling defiler or doop drop the main, and then send wave after wave of zerg to chip away and crush the terran ball of death.

Unfortunately, aside from EffOrt, the ability for other CJ players to score wins relies heavily on the coach placing them in matchups where they have the advantage. Ideal head-to-heads would probably be:

sKyHigh > Fantasy
Snow = Bisu (likely to go either way)
EffOrt > Best
Movie > Zerg player (Hyuk/s2/n.Die_Soo)
Iris > Zerg player (Hyuk/s2/n.Die_Soo)

Or, CJ could get totally boned and have to deal with

Movie < Fantasy
Snow < Hyuk
EffOrt < Bisu
Iris < Best

On July 16 2010 01:08 Avidkeystamper wrote:

You mean Mumyung? Because once he left, the zerg players started playing better.
I'm not so sure about Movie's current form.

On July 16 2010 01:09 raga4ka wrote:


You mean Bisu who hasn't beaten a protoss player since forever and the best terran his beaten recently is Skyhigh . I doubt he will get lucky with Skyhigh this time .